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I was told that it seems more and more like AMD struck up a deal with Alienware for the 7970M.. One reseller told me that it looks like Alienware will be the only ones who will be able to supply the 7970M earlier than mid-May (ie: Nothing from Clevo has indicated the availability of it to them in April). It was also noted to me that the 7970M does indeed cost less than the 675M..

Edit: Just to clarify, this is the info I was given yesterday and it is subject to change.

 

I willb e wanting to buy 2 pieces for my x7200. Can one buy only the gpus ? Do they come with the cooler ?
Do they work without nothing in x7200 ?

 

actually it is 100 $ more than 675M on sager np9150 (xoticpc)

 

Weird, because Mythlogic hinted that it would be available at the same time as the 660M, which is supposed to correlate with the official Ivy Bridge release. It's also listed on powernotebooks website already.

 

This is simply what I was told by a reseller. That the price difference isn't to be public knowledge for a while.. Could be that the resellers are simply specualting pricing, or my tipster is giving me late updates.

 

Yeah, Clevo is behind the curve on this one. with the added price of the 7970m and the later release date, I'm thinking about going back to Alienware...

 

How exactly is this Clevo's fault?
Clevo has nothing to do with the cost of AMD products nor nVIDIA products. It's the work of resellers, builders and the Sager. Let's no complicate things

 

Clevo sets the prices that it charges to the importers for things like the shells and video cards, that then trickles down to all the businesses. Also remember that AMD sets the prices it sells chips to Clevo and the like. But the poster above that said Dell is probably just over-charging for the nV cards is probably closer to the truth

 

If you remove the 675M from both machines, the 7970M costs an additional $200 from either side. To me this more suggests that the difference is how much the two comps are charging for the 675M.

At one point, the Dell 580M cost a couple hundred more than Clevo's, as an aftermarket upgrade. It wouldn't surprise me if this is some carry over from that.

 

Sounds like nVidia's in some trouble lol.. 7970M is a beast and if it indeed does come in under the 675M, even nVidia's 680M won't pull buyers away from AMD. They won't even need to introduce a 7990M..

 

It sure does and yes Dell does undoubtedly charge more for the nVIDIA cards.. I hate business

 

Alright, so my prayers were answered. 7970M is still in the $1500 range. WOOT!

 

Go configure an alienware with a 7970...preliminary ship date 5/21...your waiting either way.

 

Mine came out to $1584 with
i7 2670 [hopefully upgrading to 3610 ivy bridge]
7970m
8gb 1600mhz RAM
750GB Hybrid HDD w/ 8GB SSD
screen/wifi/etc. all stock [the stock glossy screen is already awesome].
And of course no OS.

I might have them remove the hybrid drive though; as they charge $190 for it and you can get it for $145 now. I'll just buy it and put it in myself to save $45 .

I'm going to order form Powernotebooks as they don't have Tax and that saves me like $130. Also the cash discount saves another $45. Not bad! Basically getting a $1760 Rig for $1580 ish.

They are also saying late may; like May 20-24, which sucks because thats a long wait + Diablo 3 comes out on May 15th, are they doing this on purpose ?? hahaha. I hope we can just buy the card on eBay next week for the same price; then I'd just order a barebones haha.

 

anyone knows if 7970m will work on our HM laptops??

 

It should work on an HM laptop; the MXM 3.0b is still the same on the EM models I believe so the card should work; if you have the P151EM though you may need to have a 180W PSU, which I see in your sig you do have.

From what I've heard you could put a 7970m in your P150HM1 as long as you have a 180W PSU that MOBO should support the 7970m just fine; it uses the same socket as the 6970m .

 

hope it works!! i saw that 675m works without problems on HM.

 

Yeah the gtx 675m and 7970m both take the same 100w tdp so it should be legit

 

OK, don't see the proof where this is a legit MOBILE and stock CLOCKED 7970m card though. Pulling the same performance score as a PAIR of 6990m's? Having a hard time believing this one..........

 

Slick dude posted a bunch of benchmark scored. 5600 3dmark 11 and about 21k vantage.

 

remember nvidia wasnt hesitate to deep trimmed down gf110 to make q5010m?
so i think kepler quadro flagship n14e glm will based on gk110 to continue ecc mem support & fast double precision, while amd may still based on 7970m
and if quadro card=gk110/gk104, may clevo monopolize again with geforce which based on these quadro?just like gtx470/480/485m? just dreaming

 

From where? Who has the card physically? Links? Sorry, but the performance of 2 6990m's in a 100w package? I want links to this........and I have yet to see any. Sorry a pair of 6990m's has 2240 shaders......a single 7970m has nowhere near that amount, nor does it have the same memory throughput, or processing power, they did not make that kind of jump, no way, no how.............im calling the benchmark results bogus without hard core physical proof and benches that can be verified by multiple parties......

 

I thought that when you have a pair of graphics cards in crossfire/sli it doesn't necessarily mean 2x the performance just because you have twice the components. If this is true it is conceivable that the 7970m can perform as well as or better than 6990m XF.

 

2 cards != 2x performance. it has always been like that, and you saw the benchmarks and the gaming figures, its a lovely card

 

AMD crossfire scaling is pretty darn good though. With 2 identical cards you get like >190% performance in many games.

 

Ntrain in this thread they have pics and such of the benchmarks.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/658185-amd-7970m-vs-gtx-680m-10.html

 

and an m15x owner has one running as well

 

Why is it so hard for you to accept the 7970M's performance, ntrain96? It's a new architecture AND a die shrink at the same time afterall.

 

Haters gonna hate. I for one am buying a 7970m ASAP.

 

I want 2 in an m18x!!

 

To be someone who spends so much on gaming technology, how is it that you do so little research and willfully remain ignorant to what AMD has done with GCN?

All you have to do, is go look up desktop 7870 benchmarks. The 7970M is a desktop 7870. So naturally it is going to decimate anything on the current mobile market.

AMD has knocked it out of the park, with the move to 28nm and their new architecture.

 

you know guys one thing that raised my HDI (human development index) in the forums? put someone in the ignore list

 

Yeah I believe the benches myself, if the 7970m is in fact a 7870...which isn't hard to believe since the 7870 was estimated at consuming only 127 watts at full load, I'm pretty sure it can be tweaked down to 100w.......

 

Yeah If you do some research it makes perfect sense, I hear that it even runs cooler than a gtx 675 , furmark Max temp 69 I think slick said.

 

is there a solid release date on the 7870?
Im looking to buy new p150em and ive been browsing the dif websites since feb waiting for ivy bridge so I can place my order. But if I keep waiting for release dates new things will always be coming out in a month or so.

 

good news: Hawkforce (german clevo reseller) just updated their P150EM config pages with a 7970M option, costing exactly the same as the 675M bad news: expected availability around end of june

cheers

 

Mythlogic has also updated their page for the 7970M. It is over $100 more than the 675M ($198 vs $88) and has an ETA of May

Malibal lists the 7970M for $100 over the 675M ($100 vs $200) and lists an ETA of "end of May."

XoticPC prices are the same as Malibal's with an estimate of late May.

 

7970M: first official benchmark results on notebookcheck and official presentation by AMD

Mobile Grafikkarten - Benchmarkliste - Notebookcheck.com Technik/FAQ

AMD: Neue Notebook-GPUs der Serie Radeon HD 7000M vorgestellt - Notebookcheck.com News

use google translate for english version

cheers

 

OK, just looked over a TON of threads......there is 0 proof that any of this is legit? Someone has this card? Then lets see a post with a pic of the actual card in hand, installed in the laptop on that m15x etc.......................none of the screenshots even verify what actual GPU is running.........so IMO yeah the mobile "benchmarks" are 100% bogus.

Do I expect improvements? Yep, but do I expect a single 7970m to have the same performance as a pair of 6990m's? No way, no how, AMD did not equal the power a pair of 6990m's in this new series, and do it in a 100w package while reducing heat? LOL! Time to get realistic folks........ Your all being DUPED. SOunds like an April fools joke being extended out a few weeks if you ask me.

So lets see actual pics of the video card in hand(you won't see any because noone has one, otherwise they would have their camera ready and snapping photos for all to see), and not some benchmark scores that can easily be doctored and manipulated.....Ive seen this happen countless times n the past.......

 

From notebookcheck.net: AMD Radeon HD 7970M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

I quote:

Sorry, 1280 shaders, 850 gpu clock, 1200 memory clock and 256 bus bandwidth in a slighly smaller nm production, is not going to equal 2240 shaders dual gpu's at 715mhz, and twice the memory bandwidth and bus roughly..........Again, if someone actually has one of these in his m15x(show me the pics of the physical card or I call BULLSH!T and so should everyone else with HALF A BRAIN)lets see some pics of it installed. Your not gonna see it.....because its bogus, and so are the "leaked" scores.

 

Hardware specs on single 7970m:

■850 MHz Engine Clock
■2GB GDDR5 Memory
■1200 MHz Memory Clock (4.8 Gbps)
■153.6 GB/s memory bandwidth
■2176 GFLOPS Single Precision compute power
■136 GFLOPS Double Precision compute power
■Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture1◦9th generation programmable hardware tessellation unit
◦20 Compute Units (1280 Stream Processors)
◦80 Texture Units
◦128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
◦32 Color ROP Units
◦512KB L2 read/write cache

■256-bit GDDR5 memory interface

vs: SINGLE 6990m:

■Engine clock speed: 715 MHz
■Processing power (single precision): 1.6 TeraFLOPS
■Polygon throughput: 715M polygons/sec
■Data fetch rate (32-bit): 160 billion fetches/sec
■Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 40 Gigatexels/sec
■Pixel fill rate: 22.88 Gigapixels/sec
■Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 91.52 Gigasamples/sec
■Memory clock speed: 900 MHz
■Memory data rate: 3.6 Gbps
■Memory bandwidth: 115.2 GB/sec
■TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture ◦1120 Stream Processing Units
◦56 Texture Units
◦128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
◦32 Color ROP Units

■GDDR5 memory interface



Now double the 6990m up when running in xfire........there is no way a single 7970m is going to pull the same power as a pair of 6990m's............sorry just isnt going to be happening. The hardware of a single 7970m just doesnt have the processing power or memory bandwidth of a pair of 6990m's.........

 

My oh My..

AnandTech - AMD Launches Radeon 7700M, 7800M, and 7900M Mobile GPUs

 

ntrain i think its time u started believing

 

Awesome! +REP as soon as I can mate!!

 

Yeah these cards just came out a flood of official benches should be out soon ntrain . Don't know why you are being so pessimistic .

 

Guys, what ntrain is saying is the 7970M is not going to have twice the power of a single 6990M.

He's right about that.

 

They are totally different architectures.

 

Does AMD have graphics switching or some sort of Optimus like battery saving technology?

 

Yes it does

 

Becasue Im looking at actual benchmarks of a 7870 desktop card.....which is a 175w unit. And on some of the benchmarks like Uniengine its not even pulling what was claimed above. Now go to a 7970m thats 100w spec'd.......your dreaming. Again a single 7970m just does not have the same processing power or bandwidth as 2 6990m's in xfire, not even close.

Again, I have yet to see any physical pics of the actual 7970m that supposedly someone on this board claims to have in hand. If he does, then he should have no problems taking the whooping 5 minutes of his time to take a pic of the physical unit in hand.
And I have yet to see any hardcore bench pics posted that prove without a doubt that is actually a 7970m.

I would LOVE to be wrong on this, but I highly doubt I am.

SKeptical I am, because Ive seen this game too many times in the past played out.

I mean, a pair of mobile 6990m's in xfire has performance thats somewhere between a DESKTOP 6950 and 6970 single video card..............so people are tying to tell me now that they have a single mobile card that is putting out the performance of one of these desktop cards using only 100 watts of power? I think not.................the architecture isnt all that different folks either......they are actually very similiar.