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    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Blacky, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. micahmatthew

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    The last few posts were from AMD ..... what else do you want ?
     
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    ntrain96 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats the problem......they came from AMD.....Id like to see results back from actual users(and multiple users)and review sites that have the card in hand.........everything Ive seen still is speculation. Regardless, if someone does have an ES on hand, then they shouldnt have a problem posting up some pics of the actual card itself(and up close), and then running some benchmark videos........in fact you would think that this would be done eagerly.

    Regardless if the posted claims end up being true....I will be the first to eat my words an apologize. I would love to see a card capable of this type of performance jump for the mobile market.........I just dont see it happening.
     
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    Tmets De-evolving to Amoeba

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    I do wonder where that m15x owner got hold of one to test. Really hope these benchmarks turn out to be true.
     
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    the anandtech link posted before also includes the following statement:

    "Going by the core clocks, the HD 7970M should be about 15% slower than the HD 7870, and given the fact that no consumer laptops have yet shipped with an LCD resolution above 1920x1200, you can look at our HD 7870 benchmarks and subtract 15% to get a pretty good idea of how the HD 7970M will perform."

    i for one trust their judgement to be honest ^^

    cheers
     
  5. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Yes. GCN is simply superior, and you can't just do an A vs. B with the specs to see the differences.

    We can also point to how the desktop 7770 is as fast/faster than the 960 shader 6850, despite only having 640 shaders and what appears to be just slightly higher clocks.
     
  6. contradude

    contradude Notebook Consultant

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    I may need a new set of pants. does anyone know if the graphics switching built in to the new cards will work on the np9150?
     
  7. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    As soon as we can get our hands on a card, OR just the drivers we can tell you :p Not even Dell has the drivers up yet so we have no clue.
     
  8. micahmatthew

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    Yeah this whole built in graphics switching im hearing of is very interesting. They are saying that the "AMD Enduro Technology, which "seamlessly powers down" the GPU when not required, below even 1W."

    This would be awesome. Probably more efficient than the Optimus tech if it worked properly. AMD is on it this year. Trying to make up for 590 Million losses.... AHhahaha. I almost want to throw some stock's there way because they are kicking butt!

    AMD Launches its Radeon HD 7900M Series Mobile Discrete GPUs | techPowerUp
     
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    I read the desktop AMD 7770 scores even against 6850! And tesselation performance is stellar compared to previous gens.

    My future looks like this: P170EM + 7970M + i7 3720QM.
     
  10. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Yeah.. I feel the same way. Until something new comes along and I'm hooked again, amazing isn't it this way of business.
     
  11. b0b1man

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    Totally. I imagine how the P370EM is creeping its way in the summer and if it looks cool enough, I might jump on that one instead of 170EM...

    I also imagine hearing rumors in June/July about the 7990M and how it performs +20% faster than 7970M and jumping to that one when it comes....

    Yea, thats money well spent (sarcasm included). Good thing that Im in my twenties and dont have to support a family yet. One day Im gonna have to buy a laptop once every 5 years....
     
  12. TwinTurbo

    TwinTurbo Notebook Consultant

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    Rub it in and laugh while you can, buddy! ;)


    I switched my P150EM build to include the 7970m instead of the GTX675m. I'm excited about it, but I'm trying to temper my enthusiasm at the moment. I'll have to switch back to the 675m if the 7970m doesn't hit the streets in time for me to receive my build by mid June, at the absolute latest.
     
  13. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    AMD just ate NVidia's Lunch. /End of Thread.
     
  14. Zeratul_Pol

    Zeratul_Pol Newbie

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    :) Hi there - this is my first post here! I am looking for actualy the same configuration. In Poland there was no Clevo Reseller until last month - and i found this: BLUEMOBILITY

    P170EM + 7970M + Ivy Bridge I7 3720QM - 6800PLN ( 2060 USD)

    :) only shipment is for 2 weeks from now - but i'm waiting! I hope someone be first to get AMD 7970M with some benchmark and Temp.
     
  15. fourgate

    fourgate Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow, if the AMD numbers on the 7970m are even fairly accurate, then I'll be very happy about the 7990m's prospects.
     
  16. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    If there even is 7990M that is..
     
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    anexanhume Notebook Evangelist

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    I like how people are seeing the 7970M's amazing numbers and are like "Woah, wait for the 7990M!"

    What are they going to make it from? 7870 at stock clocks? Severely downclocked 7950?
     
  18. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    if there is a 7990m it should be on an intermediate model like the fabled 7890 or the severely downclocked 7950 as you said
     
  19. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I don't see a 7990M, there just inst a competitive need for it now.
     
  20. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    not now, maybe latter it needs, Im not discarding the 680m at all
     
  21. Juscallmesteve

    Juscallmesteve Notebook Consultant

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    Just posting this to let people know, Eurocom already offers the 7970m in xFire
     
  22. anexanhume

    anexanhume Notebook Evangelist

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    7890 won't exist without a need. All AMD __90 products exist only to specifically compete with Nvidia offerings. Nvidia won't have an answer to the 7970M anytime soon, and even then, it seems likely it will be within 10%.
     
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    The 7990m seems like a bridge too far away right now. The 7970 is already so far ahead of the competition that it would be surprising to see them rush to anything faster.

    I've been scouring the forums for weeks now without hearing a peep about the 7990m,, I'd be astounded if it came out before the holiday season. Both amd and nvidia have mentioned 22nm supply constraints as well that may limit existing supply as is.
     
  24. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    If a 7990M really is coming what do you expect it'll be ? 7970M already gets a 100W TDP it seems. It's also just 150mhz short of being a full fledged desktop 7870.

    How can AMD make Tahiti into a mobile chip while increasing performance significantly, keeping costs low and without significantly raising the TDP, when Tahiti is big (350mm², up from 215mm²) and inefficient (compared to Pitcairn at least) ?

    IF there is a 7990M, it can only be a factory OCed 7970M, maybe all the way to the 7870's 1ghz. Therefore I srsly doubt there will be one, and if there is I doubt it will bring a very significant improvement.
     
  25. Bytales

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    Perhaps a downclocked tahiti in 22 nm, who know, a 7990 could be
     
  26. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    thats why I said fabled, I agree with your point
     
  27. jpangeles1581

    jpangeles1581 Notebook Guru

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    I wonder what can it do. 7970m>6990xfire. 7970m xfire > ∞
     
  28. jaug1337

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    Didn't expect that one, gave me a good laugh lol

    I would imagine the 7970M CrossFireX being insane!
     
  29. awakeN

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    lmao that would be the most overkill GPU power i've ever seen

    next to a GTX 590 3 way SLI lol
     
  30. Kevin

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    Well, there was that mountain of salt rumor Cloudfire heard, which says that another key feature of MXM 3.1 is that it further raises the power consumption ceiling to 130W, and that the 7990M will be near that.

    If that turns out to be true, 7890 or 7950?
     
  31. mythlogic

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    Yea, it doesn't raise the limit to 130W. We have the spec :p
     
  32. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    damnnn I was hoping that cloudfire was right
     
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    That is a lot of heat and power for a laptop. Cannot imagine it would do well on battery.
     
  34. jaug1337

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    you actually want to carry a larger charger around? my god, we'd be better off optimizing the current 100W GPU's instead of raising the limit :p
    if we continue we might end up with a charger than weights more than the whole computer itself
     
  35. littleone562

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    Hey mythlogic could you killawatt a 7970m to find out its exact power usage if possible, maybe during furmark?
     
  36. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    of course not, I only buy 13'' or 14'' from now on, for me its a no show, however for tech knowledge its a different matter. :D

    The models Im looking to replace my 2011 mbp 13 are the s430, the new vaio Z, t430u, and maybe the new vaio S, Im going to get an egpu IF I want to game more, which I dont do so much nowadays only about 1h or so in the odd sunday night. :D The game Im playing currently is rome total war (2006), I can run it maxed on the intel HD 3000

    I just love tech, and thats my problem, I should go back reading some more about art, Im quite uninformed in that area and a lot of others (tech as well), next one is anita malfatti and tomie othake :D
     
  37. hizzaah

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    They don't have a 7970M yet.. They've got a bit of a to-do for when they finally do get their hands on one though.
     
  38. City.

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    Just to add to the 7990m, products cycle approximately every 6~8 months but doesn't exactly reach the consumers hands until a couple of weeks or even a month after being released, so getting the 7970m now would give you atleast a minimum of 6~8 months guarentee that the product will be the latest thing out there. Of course then again we have no idea how the nvidia 680m will perform, my bets probably going to be 10~15% more efficient at the cost of $250+.

    Edit: Oh also, Really not to be "that guy" or anything but I can totally see ntrains point of view. While alot of people are talking about the 7970m being 50%+ more efficient then the 6990m, its too huge of a leap with no video recording or screenshot of the product to blindly say it is that efficient so until then we cant simply bash the guy and say he's being ignorant or wrong.

    I don't think until we get videos up really confirming out of multiple tests its this great we can completely agree its that good.
     
  39. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the pics of the card are already available, the screens of the tests as well.
     
  40. R3d

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    Given that the specs are officially out, you shouldn't need multiple people confirming it. It'll perform around 15% worse than the desktop 7870, and that's where early benchmarks put it. The evidence is overwhelming.
     
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    The AMD 7700M/7800M series look nice. Will there be MXM version of 7700M/7800M cards? It would be nice if it can be used on P151EM/P150EM.
     
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    We have this. I am not entirely shure about the way AMD is testing because if you look closely at the test you can see that the big FPS boosts come from medium settings and 1080p without any AA or AF. They used AF with Deus Ex and Skyrim and the difference there between 675M and 7970M is 29% while Average in total if you count with the medium settings and the AA/AF disabled is 49.5%. Plus apparantly they have simulated the whole thing using a desktop 2600K to test with ( Anandtech) . Perhaps its me who is reading too much in this like always though... :p
    [​IMG]

    Thats too bad. Oh well, atleast now its confirmed from someone who have seen the specs and not some vague chinese site :)
     
  43. City.

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    The only tests that are released are based on AMD's testings, it could again in my opinion to be a marketing ploy, but again I'm just being skeptical. I've been stalking this thread for some time because I have great hopes for the 7970m as well but I haven't seen any "screenshots" of any user physically or even showing in there hardware detection that they have it.

    Alot of people are blindly following statistics saying its from Anandtech but They ARE using AMD's spreadsheets not testings done by themselves.
     
  44. KCETech1

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/658185-amd-7970m-vs-gtx-680m.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/658084-amd-7970m-available-buy.html

    slickdude has been posting on hands info for over 2 days. wizu is starting as well
    it looks like in actual game performance on some games are understated





     
  45. micahmatthew

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    Yeah there are plenty of picks up of the card itself. I wonder if there will be driver support for clevo 150em, and if the enduro graphics switching will work
     
  46. micahmatthew

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    I'm getting the build in my sig but with a 500GB 7200rpm 16 mb cache with an adata 64GB msata cache drive . Will test the heck out of it they said I should get it by may 14. Hope the clevos get support for 7970m and enduro
     
  47. awakeN

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    that's amazing :eek: how is the 7970M about twice as fast as the 675M? that sounds almost impossible...
     
  48. KCETech1

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    completly different architecture. hunt down slickdude80's threads ( links above ) lots of info and benchmarks sofar. synthetic benchmarks and games show it 10-12% less than a DESKTOP 580
     
  49. awakeN

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    I know it's just how close it is to a high-end desktop card...

    GCN is good man. AMD wins in the mobile round.
     
  50. jaug1337

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    You called it alright. It seems a little weird for me too, but I can surely say that the 7970M won't disappoint :)
     
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