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This year is a milestone for laptop gaming. We get closer to desktop performance than ever before.

 

We have been closer in the past (X800 era), but the gaping chasm is being brought closer now.

 

7970m in stock clocks scored a 5.6k in 3dmark11 so does that mean 7970m will have 6990m performance in games?

 

I am very happy with what is happening. I remember all those threads 6-7 months ago, even one year ago, with people asking if they should upgrade or not. I kept saying to wait for spring 2012 cause that's when the great jump in performance will take place as both the CPU and GPU will get a die shrink. I was partially right. The CPU performance gains are ... disappointing (since most of them went into the integrated GPU), but the GPUs are awesome. If there ever was a good time to upgrade, this is it.

 

The best time to upgrade the cpu is when the "Tick" (Sandy Bridge) comes. Right now we are in the "Tock" (Ivy Bridge). The next "Tick" is next year (Haswell ). That is da big daddy.
As for GPU's. Maxwell in 2013/2014 is gonna see destop GTX680 performance.

 

Where is Kepler's 200-300% increase that they promised us. I dont see it.

 

Actually it was also the tock that brought most performance gains for Sandy Bridge. The previous quad cores were on 45nm while sandy bridge was 32nm. Clock to clock Sandy Bridge was 10-15% faster than previous generation.

 

I think they where talking about their profits...

 

Hello, i have a question about the Alienware Mx18.

http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=23298

If you look at this laptop above when selecting the 675m in SLI, it comes with an extra power cable and what i am assuming is because it needs it to power both GPU's and everything else needed.

The question is how come when selecting the Mx18 and the SLI of the 675m's you are not given the option for an extra power brick, the Alienware mx18 comes with a 330 watt adapter and im trying to find out why you dont need it to power the MX18 with 675m's in SLI but on the CLEVO P270WM you do need 2 power cords/adapters. I understand the clevo comes with a desktop processor but i wouldnt think you would need 2 adapters to power it.
So another question is why can the 330w power adapter power the MX18 or better yet how.

 

We don't require the second AC adapter for 675m in SLI its optional and only needed to overclock the cards / CPU. So it works on the single 300W, its just close to 300W so its needed if you are going to push the system higher.

 

right, both nvidia/amd make gfx for profits
but this year either amd so kind or 680m give them much pressure...
amd can easly use a trimmed down core based on hd7850 as 7970m first, then few months after launch full spec core based on hd7870 as 7990m, for twice income

 

is there a release date or a date when they will announce the release date for the mobile amd cards? Im going to purchase soon and I dont know whether to get the nvidia or wait for the ATI depending on when itll arrive
Thanks!

 

the M18x has a mobile CPU (~45-55W) while the P270WM has a desktop CPU (130-140w), that's why the Clevo is easier to trip the PSU

 

Ha ha, you beat me to it. The dual GPU and mobile XM CPU can be overclocked beyond stability with the stock 330W AC adapter. It's enough to get the job done with the mobile CPU.

Seems a few folks are getting a bit testy in this thread over the last few pages. Let's all sing Kumbaya and roast marshmellows over our soon-to-be-obsolete Radeon and Fermi GPUs.

 

It will be much better than the 6990M.

 

It's almost time...




It's time... http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/watch-live-streaming/

 

GTX690, nothing about mobile cards

 

Well i need a little help, right now i have an 18inch laptop with the 360m GPU. As of right now i can play most games in one setting or another. Im looking for another laptop preferably the same size but willing to drop to 17inch with one or two 7970m's inside. My price range is below 3500US and i really do not care about the processor as long as its is a type of i7, any i7 will get the job im using it for done. Preferably 8-12gb of 1666mhz ram and atleast a 180gb SSD as well as a 3 year warranty. The reason im fairly specific is because alienware as of right now offers pretty much this but with 675m in SLI for 3500US i want the 7970m in xFire for less.

If anyone has and suggestions that would be great, preferably less than 3500US.

 

or possibly a date for when alienware will offer the 7970m in xFire in the MX18 because they have a comparison page on their website that says the mx18 will have two 7970m's at some point.

 

very soon, they already have the 7970m for the M17x

 

1GHZ ON CORE!? OH YEAH!!

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2920XM Processor,Alienware M17xR3 score: P7340 3DMarks

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2920XM Processor,Alienware M17xR3 score: P24757 3DMarks

Are you AMAZED?

Temps, screens and more juicy info: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/659743-omg-beast-overclocked-5.html#post8479292

 

OMG .. insane! well done! hands down, really

 

No, no, ignore what 3DMark11 says. The GPU auto downclocked to 860 when idle, not sure why. Sometimes it just reads lower idle speeds, etc. 860 woulda been closer to the stock numbers, that's a 1Ghz result for sure.

 

Amazing. Almost even more incredible is that CPU OC.

 

jesus christ this is linsanity

 

LOL with that 3dmark11 score ure now EXACTLY 105% ABOVE my OCed 485M cant WAIT to get my beast!!!

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THHIS IS SPARTA, SON!

 

rofl!

7970M = sparta + xmas

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The GTX580 is officially annihilated by a single 7970M, lol. Only 5% short of the HD 7970 - Awesome!

 

7970m is a 7870, now how is going to be even close to a 7970 in real world performance............

 

by comparing the mobile one overclocked versus desktop not overclocked.
A fair fight would be overclock them both or neither

 

Yeah, yeah... I don't believe those benchmarks. If they're true, that's great, but I'm still skeptical.

Also, it's hard to believe that a mobile GPU has the same juice as the desktop version.. am I in wonderland?

 

You could be. All it takes is 1 night of Starcraft 2 non-stop before a day of work.

 

How can you not believe those benchmarks?

Desktop vs Mobile is not a fair fight either way... it's just insane how an overclock takes me to stock Desktop GTX 580 speeds.

 

Geo is one of the best, if not the best, bencher on the forums.

We commonfolk can never reach those levels.. we can only gasp and cheer.

 

Are you kidding me? For years, desktop user used to say that a mobile GPU would never be close, even if you put 2 of them. Last year we had 2 mobile cards approaching the level of the GTX 580 and people said, "It's not fair, 2 against one". Now it's only one and people still keep saying it's unfair. It's fair enough to me, a single mobile 7970m (OC'ed) can match the GTX 580 stock speeds. That's insane!

 

When are we going to know if the Clevo's new EM models will support Enduro?? I want 7970m but can't get it if I'm stuck with under 3 hours of battery.

 

It should be more efficient than the 6970M series when idle.

 

Geo can tell us the max stable clock speeds please for 7970m?
I'm a noob on OC. Please teach me how to OC and once the clock speeds have been applied will it stay that way when I restart my laptop? For example, do I need to run MSI AB all the time if I want OC speeds?
Also please tell me the Max/Min fps you get in Crysis 2 multiplayer on max settings @1920x1080 with max stable clock speeds and leave it to run for like several hours to see it it's stable.
Thx in advance.

 

I think some were done with tessellation off. That usually has a pretty big effect.

But even with tessellation on the scores are amazing.

 

Well, I don't know what to say really. Honestly, if it turns out to be true, then it's remarkable, since a standard clevo model with that card is not going to be that pricey.

Then again, with graphics cards becoming ever more efficient and smaller, it's not that ridiculous to start thinking about laptops with the same juice has a desktop solution.

I'm still a desktop loyalist though Nothings beats it, even clevo, for the bang for your buck.

 

True true, but you must admit that laptops are the future of the consumer. Desktops are going to end up being insanely overpowered for the hardcore gamers (I assume that is)

 

Maybe, maybe not. There are still plenty of games that can stress out my two GTX 560 Ti in sli or even the 680.

So, with that in mind, laptops are the way to go for the average consumer, but I don't think laptops are meant for hardcore gamers at all.

Where's the watercooling, the extreme overclocking? Where's that upgrade flixibility (even talking about clevos), where's the widest range of graphic cards?

The most powerful cards? Have you seen the GTX 590?

Business models are going to be dominated by laptops no doubt about it, as for multimedia users.

Then again, why the am I preaching my sermon on a notebook forum? xD I think I can be annoying at times.

 

I understand where you are coming from and yes you are correct.

But given the current advancement in technology, CPU and GPU research, as everything gets smaller and stronger, it tends to clear more space for better things. I would imagine some unbelievable things to happen in the not so far away future

 

^^^ it is almost impossible to predict if desktops will fade away. The way technology advances so quickly it seems unlikely.

 

Yeah, I never understood the desktop folks being upset with this stuff. Just get a laptop and you have enough performance and a lot more flexibility with your computing.

I think laptops already sell more than desktop and have for a few years. Unless you are an enthusiast looking to watercool/overclock/simply have the biggest and MOST powerful overall OR rather put funds elsewhere, once you switch to use a laptop for gaming, you probably will never look back to the hassles of a desktop with their louder noise, power use and size...

This is more true for folks with kids since they have to keep an eye on the little one. When I was single and in a 1 bedroom apartment, yeah, a laptop made no sense since I gamed and used my computer in 1 room anyways...

Not so much now.

Can't wait to see benches with x-fire and actual drivers.

I can see these being great for multi monitor gaming setups.

 

Even though laptops are small, quiet I still prefer a good standalone monitor like Asus PA238Q which I can connect directly to the Clevo P170EM with 7970M installed.

 

With kids, definitely. I fit into your other description.

Anyway, I'm defending the desktop domain but I ordered a laptop. It's the perfect complement to me. I took out the optical drive bay as I want to be future oriented and digital is the way to go.

I barely use the optical drive on the desktop.

I have to disagree with joecait on one single aspect though: the noise.

I have this case: Silverstone Raven RV02 Video Review - YouTube

It's dead silent.

My i5 2500K is running at 4.5 Ghz @ 35ºc idle, 50º under full load.

 

Ha, desktop is going nowhere guys. 120hz/120fps at 5760x1080 - 'nuff said!

 

in the near future this will be possible on laptops