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...guess it wouldn`t sell so well then...

 

Because the AMD cards are just as fast, cost less, consume less power, output less heat....save world hunger...etc.

 

We want to get rid of world hunger, not save it

 

where you get that classified info. ?

that's AMD's 7000m silicon die not a calendar lol

 

Don't you understand though!? AMD is basing their mobile GPUs off the Mayan calendar!

It's the analogy for doom? I think?

Also, the below is basing off that the mobile GPUs will be underclocked as usual. Since you can't compare a the mobile GPU directly to the desktop counterpart that it's based off of... But that's where overclocking comes in...

I'm really hoping the 7970M will blow stuff outta the water. If it's based off the 7850, which it probably will be, seeing as how the 6970M was based off the 6850 and the 6990M was based off the 6870, then the 7970M should have overclocked performance of a GTX 480/570. Stock performance would probably put it around the GTX 470 really... which is a phenomenal upgrade. That's around... a 50% increase again if you think about it?

And that would mean the 7990M would be based off the 7870. Stock performance would put it around... what? a GTX 480/570? Overclocking yields around the level of a GTX 580 and beyond? Sick stuff man... just sick.

Dayum... I like this Moore's law stuff. I hate it too. but I care less at the moment.

If you can't tell by this point. I like smilies.

 

Though the 6970m and 6990m are based off the 6850 and the 6870, don't forget they are significantly downclocked. 50% performance increase may be a little high to hope for. I would say around 30-35%. But hey, it would be awesome if I was wrong.

 

The 7850's peak consumption is 93W though, so if AMD still takes advantage of the 100W barrier, we could see a nearly full powered 7850 as the 7970M, with little to no downclock.

That scenario would easily be a 50% jump over what we have now.

 

also keep in mind that a laptop wont have as much cooling as a desktop, which is the main reason why they dont put more powerful cards. its not all because of the wattage.

 

Wattage and cooling do go hand in hand though. The maximum thermal dissipation threshold for most large notebooks today will accommodate a 100w GPU, maximum.

 

"As for the 7850 it’s the typical lower tier part, featuring 16 active CUs (1024 SPs), an 860MHz core clock, and the same 2GB of GDDR5 running at 4.8GHz as its counterpart, giving it roughly 68% the shading/texturing performance and 86% of the ROP & frontend performance of the 7870. The PowerTune limit is 150W with a typical board power of 130W"

Source: AnandTech - AMD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition & Radeon HD 7850 Review: Rounding Out Southern Islands Where's your 93W coming from?

 

i think desktop card tdp do little to mobile card.....
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these hd6850 without any 6pin/8pin power connector, so max power draw is 75w from pcie, but it runs full amd stock clock no any downclock, thus performance nearly the same as hd6990m
100w 6990m cant beat this 75w 6850 30%+, but come out even

 

???Kepler?GPU??? NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680??? - ???? HKEPC Hardware - ?? No.1 PC?? Looks like AMD has some competition.

 

Wait, I thought the GTX 680 was still secret. This is fantastic if it's real!

 

and hope gk104 become gtx680m, downclock to 100w>>>performance -50%>>>gtx560ti level

 

Probably more. I think the 580m is <30% worse performance than 560 ti, while consuming 41% less power. The GTX 680 is 30-50% better performance than the GTX 580, while consuming 20% less power. I think we might see GTX 570-580 performance, or at least 580m SLI performance with the 680m if my math is right . Oh man that would be something...............!

 

And then we'll find out the 680m is just a 28nm fermi 580m

 

I would be utterly pissed and boycott Nvidia, since they'll probably price it over the 580m.

Oh yeah, don't forget GTX 680 has a 256-bit memory bus, while the HD7970 and GTX 580 have a 384 bit memory bus, and the GTX 680 still out performs them while consuming less power .

 

Not sure if 680M will fare better than Eurocom's dual 5010M bragging kit

 

If it beats 580m SLI than it owns 5010m SLI ^^

 

That's freaking INSANE! Holy mother of god, I can't, wow really just wow.
P150EM with this is, legendary well played nVidia well played!

 

I'll believe it when we get a more reputable source giving us the benchmarks and power draw.

Edit: after further review, their 7970 benchmarks are rather...off. 3DMark11 don't quite seem right.


And their benchmarks/heat don't really represent what others have seen, such as this: AnandTech - Bench - GPU12

Therefore I'm calling this test BS until we get a real source.

 

Can you read Chinese or are you just way overly excited? lol..

 

lol eurocom's dual 5010m...since theres no 5010m have sli connector on board, they arnt in sli but independent
so one for graphic and one for physx......?

 

Lol, yeah! Haha, they also claim to have 64GB RAM for the P270WM. And why not, it's a free "democratic" world and everyone can claim whatever they see fit. Alas, there are still those who bite the bait

Insane? Looks like a complete failure to me. If that's kepler, I'm not impressed. Aside from some artificial benches like Heaven, which benefit from the extra tess., there's nothing exciting. 0-10% performance gain over the 7970M isn't that insane especially after almost a year of predictions about Nvidia murdering AMD, lol. Nah, the usual and incremental bumps. Get your wallets ready for the next 10%, my dear chumps and chumpets.

Edit: BTW, don't forget about Nvidia's GPU Boost feature. To get the better idea, we have to compare the scores to the AMD cards using overdrive

 

Yep, like a said before on a post that got deleted by who knows... the next gen looks like a major disappointment...should be cheaper than last gen ...almost no improvement whatsoever.

 

Eurocom dual 5010m's: non-bridged SLI may work, assuming you spend 4250$ to test it.

 

lol last time i chat with clevo staff he say eurocom is kind of black list guest, not happy with them bcz they often boast on internet.....
maybe now they are preparing es hd7970m for sell

 

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That's pretty old, maybe 2 months, possibly more, "future" specs are all just estimates/predictions.

 

Strange, I have never seen it before. Not in this thread nor in the speculation thread. I have seen the Wikipedia specs posted, but not this since the two are completely different.

 

Simple. We haven't seen it in action yet, these rumors might be true, and nVidia has a lot of time to fix their mistakes and keep in mind that no one wants to unveil all of their power at once, if you do, you'll unveil your weakest points too I wouldn't be surprised if they keep the best 'till the end.

My prediction is that their desktop GPU are going to be outstanding, but nothing out of the ordinary, nothing groundbreaking, although they might have something better up their sleeve.. Lets wait and see, but one thing I can say is I'm excited, some progress is better than no progress.

I do not unfortanetly, although I do understand a slight bit. You see, one of my closest friends does and trust me, the real native speaker blasts Google Translate away

 

It doesn't really matter, as the 680m won't be based off the 680 to begin with, probably more like a 660, all the 680's will share is name alone. Just like the 7970's.

 

Could swear I've seen it posted here and someone debunked.

 

are they really different from the wikipedia data? the 7970m with its 65W TDP and 1536 shader cores looks the same to me....

cheers

 

I've read/mentioned this before, the GTX 580 is 244W TDP the GTX 680(Rebranded from 670 Ti due to 7970 not stacking up) is 195W, the 580m is closely based off the 560 Ti which is 170W max TDP....it wouldn't be hard to conceive that they could shave a 95W off the GTX 680 if they can shave 70W off the 560 Ti. 680m based off the GTX 660 is just overcutting it, even the GTX 670 will probably operate at below a max TDP of 170W.

 

Totally different. The specs doesn`t fit with the desktop models (7870/7850) or 7970M/7950M at all.

Unless I`m blind




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Radeon_HD_7xxxM_Series

 

But you're missing a point. They used and paired down a 560 Ti, because it was the only and lowest card available. The GTX 680/670 will not be the lowest card available, so there's absolutely no reason for them to try to force it into notebooks, when a 660 will be a much more comfortable and easier fit.

It makes no sense to attempt to knock 95W from a chip.

 

I see... the lower and mid end range of 500 series were released after the 560 ti, even the regular 560?

 

And please don't use rumored specs they turn out to be wrong almost all of the time, and this is a 7000m series topic anyway, so cut the nvidia stuff out.

I just hope AMD launches their 7700-7900M series soon, I wonder how much trouble TSMC is really having (SemiAccurate is a crap source) with their 28nm.

 

Looks like a 7990 (desktop) car is on the horizon..

Rumor: Radeon HD 7990 Set to Launch After Nvidia's Kepler

 

I'm hoping alright, nice find mate!

 

680 GTX review:
AnandTech - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Review: Retaking The Performance Crown

 

But I want the 680m, not the 680!!!

 

Here is what we are looking for:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Kepler 2 GB Review - Page 28/32 | techPowerUp

Basically Nvidia is on par with AMD.

 

i disagree, nvidia essentially has a "660ti" if you will, that is more powerful than the 7970, and is named the gtx 680. for right now you may be right, but they also have the gk100 which will come out as the gtx 685 in a few months i think.

 

this one was in the gtx660m thread that was the predecessor of the speculation thread.

 

given all those issues with the manufacturing, and that nv just launched what is their flagship, do you really believe that they wouldnt have launched the gk100 if that wasnt ready? if it worked? The could go g92 all over again, that core was used until fermi mainstream took over its place.

 

It does look like the gk100 will be the next g92 core.

 

or it could gf100 all over again

 

Guys, I'm not going to delete any posts, but keep the nVidia stuff in the nVidia thread and AMD stuff in the AMD thread..

If crossing over happens a lot I will just have to merge the threads and it will be confusing.



EDIT : My bad. There is no nVidia thread in the Sager forums. Renaming the title.