Update on Radeon 7970m (Sager/Resellers)

They held the entire shipment once they realized how high the fail rate was.

 

Since when does unpacking a laptop take as long as building one from scratch O_O? I unpacked my P150HM when I had it in about 60 seconds; and that was being very careful; you cut the box open; remove the Styrofoam, and there is your laptop; its pretty simple and fast.

Their is no way you could build a laptop; even with barebones; in less than 10 minutes. Even someone who does it ALL day; would not physically be able to install the RAM; then HDD [thats the fast part maybe 1-2 minutes for a pro]; then the CPU + Thermal paste [maybe 2-3 minutes if being careful and done by a pro] then attach the Heatsink carefully to the CPU [2 minutes im guessing]; then you have to install the GPU and thermal paste [2-3 minutes?] Then attach the heatsink [2 minutes]. Then on top of this they have to unscrew/screw the tops back on [1 minute] and possibly install the keyboard [2-3 minutes], then install the custom screen if its not stock [2 minutes] Then install the custom Wifi card if ordered [1 minute]. Then they have to do a quality check afterwards im sure which could take 5 minutes to meticulously check every part is secure/properly installed. This puts the build time at 15-20 minutes, for a normal person it would easily double that; these are just estimates that could of course be completely off; but I think they are semi-accurate. I doubt they could EVER build a whole custom laptop and check to make sure its legit afterwards in the 1-2 minutes it takes to unbox a laptop....

Leaving the laptops boxed up in a warehouse would be their best bet if they have their customers in mind and want them to get the laptops ASAP; yes they'd use their resources better if they were to just use those barebones for 675m orders; but what about all of the time they are also saving by having the 7970m machines ready so that all they have to do is a 5-6 minute GPU install [including taking off the bottom of the lappy and opening the box] when they arrive. And many of these companies have SPARE SPACE in the warehouse; i've been to one and the warehouse was only being about 30% utilized. They could order extra barebones and take the small financial hit in order to save time down the road. It wouldn't be the end of the world to them and it would make the customers much more satisfied.

 

I'm glad we got all the logistics figured out for Sager. I hope they're reading this thread.

 

The problem has been solved. All BBs are leaving China within a few days. Actual delivery time will vary between resellers.

 

That's great. I ordered from you, any idea when you will get them out? Ordered late may, so guessing I'm at the end of the line

 

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

So glad to hear this. What does BB stand for btw?

 

BareBone?

 

EXACTLY TWO weeks that took. What a coincidence. I was reading this two weeks ago at around 10 am local time and now it is around 10 am two weeks ago and this lol.

 

They better be paying for frickin' rush shipping to all the builders...

 

If it is coming from China, I doubt rush shipping will make much of a difference.

 

So Sager just posted this:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ates-clevo-hm-model-series-8.html#post8580162

 

What does this mean?
Is that referring to the quality issues they held the shipment of 7970M's?
Someone posted that they found the fault and the shipments will resume, do we have any confirmation of this?

 

That is major progress on getting the 7970M working in last gen. Nothing really to do with the current 7970M issue.

They say at this point they have not had to make bios changes although still sorting driver issues at the moment. So perhaps that my change.

 

Although the fact that they have had time to work on getting the 7970m working with last gen hardware, means the current issue is hopefully permanently resolved and their focus is on getting current pre-orders shipped quickly before people change their minds and cancel their orders in wait for the 680m.

 

I read 1 page back that a reseller said the current 7970M issue is resolved and shipments will resume shortly.

Plus I assume they have enough engineers that they can work on a couple different projects at any one time.

Although I would bet the current 7970M issue was indeed top priority.

 

Yes, it was reported they would start shipping again soon, and that the 7970m is working in hm models, albeit with driver issues. Exellent news.

 

Has anyone heard from Xotic regarding the newest update to the 7970's?

 

As I just said, they will be shipped very soon. Same for all resellers, as the delay was at clevos end.

 

By this do you mean shipped from XoticPC to me, or do you mean from Clevo to XoticPC (Or however it works)?

 

Apparently the problem has been solved, and shipping will begin from China in a few days. Then you have to factor in build time and shipping to you.

 

He means the issue that was located at Clevo/AMD end was resolved and they will now ship out the 7970m cards to resellers e.g XoticPC/Prostar etc. which in turn will build our beloved laptops and send them to us

 

If you ordered from Xotic and didn't request anything extra in terms of customizations (like skins, or certain accessories) your notebook will ship directly from Sager. Which means if Clevo got their act together and are shipping barebones from China to Sager in California, Sager will shorty be shipping them directly to you. For most of us, a stop at Xotic PC in Nebraska isn't necessary.

Another exception is if you are trying to (erroneously) avoid California sales tax by sending it to Xotic and then having them mail it to you. (I say erroneously because you should be paying a use tax anyway)

 

Don't hate on those of us avoiding that sales tax....

 

I'm sure this has been answered somewhere, but is this shipment going to clear out the backlog so that new orders can start shipping immediately? In other words, if we purchase a 7970 now, will our order ship once the new batch arrives? Or will we be stuck in the queue for the batch after that?

 

Don't hate on tax dodger's who are breaking the law, sure.

 

nothing wrong with avoiding paying for war costs and for h0okers for our governors.

 

I concur, but it really blows when I live in Australia and it simply just costs more

 

Not too sure how much they are going to receive for this next batch, probably going to have to wait but not too sure. Contact a seller to see where you might be in line if you order now.

 

I'm fairly certain that they would order enough AMD cards to cover their current order + more, but i'm not speaking for any reseller's just seems like that would be the logical method as the 7970m is a very popular card.

 

The demand is a given. I believe it's the supply that is in question.

 

Supply is easy too, just make more cards. I think we may be making Sager and Clevo angry by contemplating on whether they understand basic economics.

 

Well i ordered on the 22nd of May so hopefully with this new June 14th date I will be getting my laptop not put on the backlog. It will be around 1 month in total for it to ship from Clevo to my reseller to me ><".

 

There seems to be a lot of speculation regarding supply of 7970M.

Let me explain how it works. Builders order BBs from Clevo with X-lead time. (X is usually 2-3 weeks). Clevo says yes we can do this or no we cannot depending on supply of materials. At this moment there is no immediate shortage of materials meaning supply is entirely dependent on the forecast/orders that builders have made to Clevo.

By builders I refer to direct importers eg. Sager.

 

the demand is also in question, because i think there are many others like me, who are searching for the right laptop.

 

I'm looking forward to an ETA of delivery to resellers.
Been waiting so long and I'm looking forward to my new sexy laptop so much!

 

There's been a ton of backorders since it became available for pre-order on April 29th. The demand is not in question.

 

I don't know if this applies to US resellers as well, but Jack from LBO (Australian reseller) says "Radeon 7970M will be in a bit earlier than anticipated, we are looking around June 11th. There is a sizeable amount of these incoming so stocks will be good for now."

hope that keeps spirits up.

 

I wonder if non-US resellers were given a different date. From the posts on some of these forum threads, June 11th has always been the date here in the States.

 

Ah k, we were originally quoted the 18th after the delay.

 

Well, it's official. I had to switch my order from the 7970m to the 675m. Good luck to the rest of you guys waiting for 7970's. Unfortunately, my time frame inhibits me from waiting until they're readily available.

 

I saw on sager's site the 675M is on back order now as well.

Correction: I just checked it is not showing as being on back order anymore..

 

Haha, the P150EM/P170EM chassis is still pretty awesome as well. Enjoy your laptop!

 

Is your current rig so bad that you can't wait a few weeks for the 7970M?

TBH I don't need to upgrade with my G73JH in hand, I just love upgrading and opportunity raised it's head and found the one I wanted.

 

I'm going with Mythlogic, so I don't think Sager's stock would have any impact. I think they are supposed to get restocked on 675m's today (or soon)

Thanks, you're a lucky guy!

My current "rig" consists of a 3 year old HP without dedicated graphics. Unfortunately, I can't really postpone the build any further. For added context, I ordered on 04/11.

On the bright side, this will allow me time to see how the 7970m versus 680m plays out, and time to wait and see if a 7990m or 685m materializes.

 

I don't know where to post this but since I'm getting a 7970m with my laptop I think I'll just post it here.

I just want to ask what does this mean?

06/04/2012 Phase 2 (Sent for Custom Building / Testing / Burn In & Final QA) SO#573382 TH

I opened my xoticpc account and got this message. Can anyone help me? I don't know what SO#573382 TH means. I don't know if this has anything to do with the 7970m or something else. Sorry for being such a noob.

 

It means your laptop order is now being processed and your machine being prepped!

 

That's good news for me It's so nice to hear that. I hope I'm included in the next batch of 7970m that are coming. Crossing my fingers. Thanks alot Prasad!

 

Mine has the same info and I hope it means that mine is being prepped to

 

Tis' my pleasure..