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    Update on Radeon 7970m (Sager/Resellers)

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Ancientbarb, May 7, 2012.

  1. E.Blar

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    Better yet: hire a ninja and a camera crew to track him :D That way, you'll have something cool to watch when you get it.

    Well then, better go bag it before someone else gets the same idea.
     
  2. egoistmusketeer

    egoistmusketeer Notebook Geek

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    Im pretty sure ties with NBR are severed, as in there arent any types of discounts for NBR members anymore, just the one from Malibal Forum and the standard 50 off of 1500+ orders.. and the cash discount ofcourse.
     
  3. awakeN

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    They also seem to charge $50 for UPS Ground shipping... while Xotic only charges $28 o.o
     
  4. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Go XoticPC! :D
     
  5. mcas085

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    XoticPC all the way.
     
  6. kaworu876

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    Nahhh, it's the weekend anyway, they're shut up tighter than Mitt Romney at a meeting of the National Press Club. Just gotta wait it out!

    Things are looking better though. With an approximate delivery ETA of Monday 5/21 @ 1300 hours, I've got 42 hours and 25 minutes to go as I type this. That's less than two entire days, by gosh! In keeping with my prior post's computations, that's *now* 2,543 minutes. Or 152,580 seconds - and counting! Boy, time flies when you're exhaustively fidgeting and jiggling your legs whilst staring at a clock with bloodshot eyes counting down seconds and minutes and hours waiting until your body gives and you pass out from nervous exhaustion! Does it ever!
     
  7. jaug1337

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    Not anymore that is..

    OFFTOPIC: Bought Darksiders 2 yet? :p
     
  8. Curs3

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    That is just sad... After all the few $$ you try to save from all these discounts spending 50$ on ground UPS is just sad...

    I was so pissed when they delayed DS II to August... :mad:

    Its FREE at Xoticpc on Sager models of course!!!
     
  9. Justin@XoticPC

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    Your making a science out of this :) You have a countdown timer going next to your bed? :p

    Hopefully you have some of your favorite energy drink ready for when it arrives, sounds like you are going to get little sleep after UPS departs from your home :) :p
     
  10. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    ^^Fantastic! You've most accurately depicted my sentiments upon having ordered my own Sager machines, twice. I'd rep you now if I could! :D
     
  11. E.Blar

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    Go listen to some BRSTM's on youtube, they really make time fly. I do it all the time when I'm here.
     
  12. Sycraft

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    Mine says it is in phase two, and from their description sounds like 5-10 days of processing time. So I should see it the week after next, or the week after that. That is withing the delivery time I need so life is good.

    Waiting for new toys is never fun but what are you going to do? :)
     
  13. bn880

    bn880 Notebook Consultant

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    nowhere in there did i say i was cancelling my order with xotic pc.

    imply =/= will do

    jesus christ >.>
     
  15. Curs3

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    Malibal promised me free shipping for being a NBR member 2 weeks ago and 1 week earlier when I was trying to price match the same with Xoticpc they confirmed me that Malibal is no longer offering any discounts for NBR members. A lot seems to have changed in 1 week I suppose.
     
  16. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    Curs3, I looked up your email history... we never took back any offer that we gave you. Are you saying that another company told you that you could no longer get the deal that we offered you?
     
  17. jaug1337

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    Checkmate.

    That makes no sense Curs3.. none at all lol
     
  18. Curs3

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    I dint want to go back and ask them as I had decided to go with another company already for my own reasons. But this does not change the fact that this is what I was told. I did not find it necessary to confirm it as I had decided to buy it from some one else. I saw a post in here of some one telling that Malibal supposedly had not informed him of a possible discount i.e the 50$ discount on joining their forums and making 5 meaningful posts. Hence I decided to share my experience here. Since I did not contact Malibal for the past 2 weeks I am not aware of the current developments but that does not mean I cannot share my experience.

    No where in my post have I said I am sure of what I am saying. I am just saying this is what happened. Hence the word "SUPPOSE" at the end.
     
  19. jclausius

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    Did you place an order or get an official quote from Malibal? If so, was free shipping to NBR customers listed there? If so, and they took it away, then you have a legit complaint.

    However, if you did a casual check on pricing w/ out at least asking for a quote, then there's nothing to talk about, as things change - pricing on components, shipping, policies, etc.

    In regards to Malibal's policies, if they no longer want to offer anything to NBR customers, and take preference with user's on their forum, it's their company, and their right. If this *is* true (a big if), I think they may want to reconsider this policy change due to the chance of attracting customers regardless of "vendor affiliation" , but things like this change daily.

    {EDIT}I just saw your response. There's no confirmation from Malibal on this, only rumor and speculation and thus hearsay. A verification would've been nice, but oh, well. For anyone still in the market to buy, ask your sales rep (from any reseller) about any discounts / promotions and get an official quote.{/EDIT}
     
  20. Stardusttea

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    Your experience being: not contacting them, assuming they took back the offer, then telling people on a public forum that they did, without confirming it with the company itself? It's good that Malibal are still posting here, otherwise people might have thought Malibal were in the wrong, instead of.... I shall refrain from posting my opinion but I believe it is clear
     
  21. Gear332

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    It's a good thing you were here too. The rest of us aren't smart enough to have seen it as being a bit silly on his part, so we're happy that you could explain it to us.
     
  22. Stardusttea

    Stardusttea Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you actually think that my post's purpose was "to explain things to the rest of you"? :nah:
     
  23. Gear332

    Gear332 Notebook Evangelist

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    No, it was sarcasm. You said "otherwise people might have thought Malibal..." like the rest of us were too dumb to see he was being unfair if Malibal hadn't pointed it out.
     
  24. Stardusttea

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    OOoooo I see where you're coming from. I'll show you what I meant as well...

    If you read through posts quickly, it's easy to confuse what "they" refers to, especially with the lack of commas. I admittedly had to go back and reread it after Malibal posted. I wouldnt have noticed otherwise. I thought he was talking about Malibal. I don't consider myself dumb though :p


    quick edit:
    And my post wasn't about this anyway. My original point was expressing my displeasure with the way he criticized Malibal
     
  25. Curs3

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    I did get a quote from Malibal with the final discounted price. But the free shipping was not included in the quote though it was promised to me. I am not here to complain. I am just here to share what happened. And also I never confirmed it from them directly whether the same would hold after a 2 week period. I got a quote from Malibal with their discounts. Could not get back to them immediately as I was busy. Was also following up with other resellers meanwhile. At last decided to go with Xoticpc who when I tried to price match with the quote from Malibal said the free shipping was no longer given to NBR members by Malibal. I did not want to argue or cross verify. I did not get back to Malibal as I had chosen to buy from some one else and hence did not want to go back and verify for 30-40$ difference.

    The reason I shared this was bcoz it might help some body else. Some one trying to reduce every $$ and get the laptop into their proposed budget. I am not even sure if it is true that Malibal is not offering the same now. Bcoz it does not matter to me. But somebody else reading this post can get to know that such things can happen and be more aware. It is up to the person who reads it. Some might take it as a lesson to order immediately after you get a quote. Some might realise that one must get everything in written to be sure always. Some might realise that it is best to talk to all the resellers before they order. One can understand this any way he wants. My point was to share what happened. I have no complaints against any one here. And my decision to go with Xoticpc was a personal choice. It had noting to do with this. I chose Xoticpc for my own reasons that I do not wish to share here.
     
  26. Curs3

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    No where in my post did I say I assumed they took it back. I honestly up until now do not know if this is true. But I have heard so from reliable sources. It doesnt bother me whether they did or not as I am not buying from them. But it might to some. Hence I shared my experience so that people interested can enquire and figure it out. I see nothing wrong in that.
     
  27. Curs3

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    And when and how did I criticize Malibal? By saying that they might have supposedly removed the free shipping for NBR members? Well if that sounded like I criticized Malibal to Malibal themselves, then I shall apologise to them. But my intention was never that.
     
  28. egoistmusketeer

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    None of your recent posts have had anything to do with updates on the 7970m, there are a hundred other threads about reseller reviews, malibal experiences, and nbr discounts, move to those and keep this thread on-topic please.
     
  29. Prasad

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    @Curs3, dude don't multi-post! Just edit your posts...
     
  30. dwalk321

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    For those of you whose laptops have shipped already, how many days was it in production before it shipped? Mine is going into production on Monday, and I should have it on Friday if it ships on Wednesday. Otherwise, the earliest I'll have it is Tuesday the 29th.
     
  31. bn880

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    Uhm, you said you WONT cancel your order. As if someone suggested it... when no one did. So yeah... nuff said.
     
  32. awakeN

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    i said i was going to stick with xotic.

    nobody cares about what you have to say because for some reason you attack me for saying "either way im sticking with xotic pc"

    whatever, not like any of this bull even matters
     
  33. bn880

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    Then stop acting like a child; the way this started is I was merely passing on info about MALIBAL's perks to customers who were lined up for 7970M laptops which is a good thing to post to a notebook review forum. When you chimed in belittling their efforts with what you consider to be a highly intelligent passive aggressive remark.

    Why can't someone post about a deal they got from a reseller all of a sudden without (paraphrase) "Oh gee wizz, free shipping, I'll just stick with my reseller!"

    Please...
     
  34. awakeN

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    hell, free 2 day shipping is pretty surprising, especially out of company who's just had their reputation torn apart a month ago. and now you're just resorting to personal attacks. whoopee.

    how in hell was i belittling their efforts with a small surprised comment that you just seem to be so annoyed by that you have to be (paraphrase) "Holy jesus christ man, no one told you to cancel your order with Xotic PC!"

    i didnt even consider it myself a hastily post a highly intelligent post. but apparently for you, every single damn post must be highly sophisticated and bundled with honest opinions and intellectual discussion.

    although I must say, that posted which you paraphrased wasn't one of the best I've made though. Can't see how it would hurt anything, just a silly remark meant to be buried in a swarm of posts. I don't understand why you would take such a small post so seriously either. It wasn't a serious post.

    I do apologize if i acted a little rashly, I'm tired and I'm irritated by severe allergies. Phooey.
     
  35. E.Blar

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    Oh dear... This could get ugly.

    Then again, grammar errors on NBR involving commas are very common...

    Personal attacks are not cool, sir. Please go be not cool somewhere else so we can talk about the 7970m and not Malibal.

    Aaand you've been waiting a long time for a decent laptop... :)
     
  36. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    Sh*t just got real
     
  37. sk3tch

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    bn880 has shown his true colors as a Malibal fanboy - which is fine, but he is now attacking people that did not even try to start anything - i.e. awakeN.
     
  38. TwinTurbo

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    Homie, please. You need to stop acting like a defensive child. I laid down some logic in previous posts that you thoroughly disregarded and refused to address by deflecting the conversation towards something else. Get off his back and quit being Cpt. Save-A-Ho for Malibal.
     
  39. bn880

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    I have a right to defend myself. If you look back I didn't do anything wrong. So yes, I'm being defensive. Thanks.

    Also "bn880 a fanboy", you don't know how wrong that is ;) However I don't like to watch unprovoked attacks on MALIBAL no... so I confess that I'm astonished that so many people here are acting like little kids just because one reseller told them what's what.

    Edit 2: Note that the insecurity was actually on awakeN part, as soon as people had something positive to say about MALIBAL he was making fun of them. That's a passive aggressive attack due to insecurity. He just didn't expect someone to defend themselves or MALIBAL. Tough luck, I'm not going to have people walking all over me on a laptop review forum.
     
  40. TwinTurbo

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    I brought up the fact that Malibal has a history of saying one thing and doing something entirely different. You stated that was of no benefit and ultimately a parasitic drain on the community. HOW?

    How is illuminating customer service issues to the NBR family a waste of time? Don't you think potential consumers should know what they're possibly getting in to? Do you think suppressing information is of greater benefit than factually outlining what's transpired? Who cares if Malibal comes back or not? They chose to leave on their own accord! We shouldn't remain silent in order to placate them and hope they grace us with their presence!

    It's difficult to have a discussion when the other party involved keeps deflecting the issues.
     
  41. bn880

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    Because you're not illuminating anything. The thread where a MALIBAL employee stood up for his company is here, and it's nor surpressed. However constantly attacking the reseller means they will not be active here and that's a parasitic action. About them saying one thing and doing another, it's not true at all in this case. They are no longer active in the sense that they almost don't post and you can't expect support here. and are transitioning to their own forums. So what's your big dillema?
     
  42. Kingpinzero

    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    I don't want to flame anyone but are we realizing that a whole page has been wasted for this kind of worthless things?
    I'm here to look for/know about the thread subject, not to see people's arguing and flaming each other.
    Please respect other users and take your problems elsewhere, maybe in private form.
    Also this isn't a reseller feedback thread.
    I hope to not get anyone angry because I'm just stating my opinion with total respect for everyone.
    Thanks.
     
  43. bn880

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    Ok, I'm stopping now. I agree this is ruining this thread and I apologize for my part in that.
     
  44. TwinTurbo

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    Fact: I was told by Malibal that the promotions I inquired about would be good for at least a week. The following day they were taken down, and when I inquired about it, I was told I had until the end of the day. I was not given at least a week to decide.

    Fact: Malibal said their account is "inactive." They remain somewhat active. Inactive does not mean "almost don't post."

    To me, and I'm sure to others, this is a huge issue. I shouldn't have to explain why. You, for some reason, think this needs to be disregarded. And explain to me how this isn't bringing pertinent information to light?

    Also, they left on their own accord after THEY PERSONALLY ATTACKED NBR POSTERS. You're saying "constantly attacking the reseller means they will not be active here and that's a parasitic action." when they're the ones that attacked someone and they're the ones that left on their own free will! THEY CHOSE TO DO THIS, THEY WERE NOT FORCED OUT OF HERE.

    Edit: Kingpinzero, you're completely correct. I dropped the issue pages back, but it really got to me that awakeN was chewed out when he didn't even make an inflammatory post.
     
  45. kaworu876

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    Just to keep you guys updated, my Sager NP9170 is officially out for delivery! Hip! Hip! HOORAYYYYY!

    To keep up with tradition, staying with an approximate ETA of 1300 hours today (really it could be off by a few hours in either direction for all I know in actuality)I currently have a scan 4 hours and 35 minutes to wait as I make this post! That's just a miniscule 275 minutes! Or a microcosmic 16,500 seconds! Blink of an eye!

    I will say that I had trouble getting a good night's sleep last night. Admittedly though it didn't have much to do with the laptop coming, but it ironically has me a little worried that, horror of horrors, I might somehow be fast asleep when Mr. UPS makes his appearance. I just hope he can find my doorbell, or that I'll still be wide awake. My current plan: lots of coffee. Starbucks doubleshot energy drinks, to be specific. my current favorite caffeine delivery system at the moment.
     
  46. jaug1337

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    Aw man I envy you to the fullest :( please do a benchmark when you get it :D :D
     
  47. tipsy88

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    anyone who order from mythologic have any updates? i don't want to constantly feel like i'm looking over their shoulder and harping them for updates, if someone else already has some information to share.
     
  48. MALIBAL

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    No we do not... we no longer actively engage in the community - I only have to continue making posts because people continue to make false/misleading/exaggerated statements about my company. :)

    Also, about the launch specials... we never advertised an expiration date. You PM'd us and asked how long they will last, and we didn't have any set time but I think we said they should last at least another week. Unfortunately, I deleted all of my PM's when we stopped posting on a daily basis, so I cannot see the entire exchange.

    However, I remember that even after we took the deals off of our site, we still gave you the opportunity to get them, so you could have - if you really wanted to. :)
     
  49. Vergeofinsanity81

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    I think I read in this thread somewhere, that they have not gotten the 7970's yet. Possibly getting it this week. At this point, I am just crossing my fingers to have my laptop by the first or even second week of June. Kinda sucks, but at this point it is.. what it is. Ideally you have more than just gaming as your hobby to keep you busy in the meantime ;)
     
  50. TwinTurbo

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    You're not inactive on these forums, even though you have a statement professing otherwise. "We no longer participate as actively as we used to, so please join our forums for full time support." or "We do not frequently monitor this account any longer, but we will reply when able." would more accurately reflect your intentions/actions. Inactive is synonymous to inoperative. Your account is not inoperative, obviously.

    Regarding your deals, you originally stated they would be good for at least a week. When I called you out on it, you gave me a whopping day (hours, really, considering the time of day) instead of a week. I could have jumped and tried to rush my order, but that's not what I was originally advised. I shouldn't have been backed into a corner because I specifically addressed the time frame of your offers and received incorrect information in my response.

    Again, I'm not seeing how you didn't say one thing and do another in those two scenarios.

    Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with you posting here. I do, however, find your statements to be disingenuous due to you saying one thing and doing another.
     
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