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    Visual Differences Between The Different Screen Options. Photos?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by Kevin, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    If I'm not mistaken the screen has ~45% gamut so yeah, you would be better off with the AU (72%).
     
  2. LightningPL

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    So it means that Optronics B173HW01 V.5 is only the best option for matte display right now ?
     
  3. Aikimox

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    For the time being. We expect to have better options in April-May.
     
  4. meyer0095

    meyer0095 Notebook Guru

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    Apologies if this already has been answered previously but do any of the resellers currently offer the following for the NP8170-S1:

    17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen w/ 95% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080)

    If they don't, any word when they will begin to be offered or if they will ever be offered? (Talking to Xotic in particular, but willing to go to another reputable reseller if they offer it before)
     
  5. Kevin

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    Read the post, right above yours.
     
  6. ivanox1972

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    I have received screen... IT IS AUO B156HW01 V.4... I will install it at Wednesday and post results...
     
  7. Aikimox

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    Meanwhile Clevo/Sager has added a non-glare screen upgrade to the NP8150-S1 (+30$) :)
     
  8. Kevin

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    Is that the default LCD of the P151HM?
     
  9. hizzaah

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    the stock P151hm screen isn't the 95%matte screen correct?
     
  10. Stelio

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    Your right. The stock P151HM has the v.1 60% gamut.

    We getting the v.4 screen =]
     
  11. hizzaah

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    thats what i thought.. just double checkin :)
     
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    Is it true that the BIOS of AUO screens can be flashed? Because I have bought another AUO B156HW01 V4 screen, but I am pretty sure it's not a V4 screen.

    See the difference:

    AUO B156HW01 V4 (1.1).JPG

    AUO B156HW01 V4 (1.2).JPG
     
  14. 4st3risk

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    looks the same..
     
  15. Aikimox

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    The top one is not V4 but a different panel.
     
  16. Floris86

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    My thoughts exactly. But Monitor Asset Manager says with both screens that they are B156HW01 V4. So it is possible to flash the BIOS?

    I have been scammed, right?
     
  17. Red Line

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    So i received spyder3elite colorimeter and tried to calibrate my display, but at 85% of the procedure the screen becomes to greenish and after it's done - green cast remains the same. It shouldn't be like this i guess... Did anyone experieneced same issues? thanks
     
  18. Mkkillah

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    at which shop did you buy the screen so we (including myself) can avoid it
     
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    I know this post is almost a month old, but I wanted to point out that the bottom screen has the same color reproduction to the naked eye as the top screen but looks like it is running at a different resolution. It looks like 1600x900 to me. You can especially tell if you look in the bottom left hand corner of the blue box in the Windows logo. Maybe the screens are the same model, but the top one is running in 1920x1080 and has been calibrated where as the bottom one has not been calibrated and/or is running in a slightly lower resolution.
     
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    does anyone have new screenshots of their gamut screens?
     
  22. terminus123

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    Between the 95% Matte and 95% Glossy screen for 150HM, does the glossy screen have higher contrast ratio?
     
  23. Kevin

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    The Matte is 400:1 max, the Glossy is 500:1 max

    V.7 pdf
    V.4
     
  24. Floris86

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    Sorry for my late reply. I don't think it's wise that I mention the shop. Besides he gave me a discount.

    But the top one is not a V4, it's a V3 which has been flashed to a V4.
     
  25. Kevin

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    Sick. The V.3 is only 60% NTSC and the rest of the specs are just as mediocre.

    Even with a discount, it's a crap screen, except for the nice viewing angles.
     
  26. qloony

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    @floris86

    How do find out if its v3 flashed to v4? Do you use any software or anything?

    Im about to buy myself the v4 one myself, and i just wanna make sure i get the exact right one

    Thanks
     
  27. Tweak155

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    So if we pay you will you tell us? Yeesh.
     
  28. Floris86

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    What do you mean? You can see it at the image quality. With a 95% gamut screen, red is more red, blue is more blue, etc.....

    I don't know exactly how to say it. Can maybe another member give a better clarification?
     
  29. Tweak155

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    As to which shop sold a monitor and labeled it as something else. It sounds as though they paid you to be quiet.
     
  30. Floris86

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    No, that's not the case. Everyone can make a mistake and I don't think he did it on purpose.
     
  31. Tweak155

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    Ok that is a much better reason than "they gave me a discount" lol. Just sounded like TWO strikes for that company.

    It is curious how that happened, though.
     
  32. Floris86

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    You are right. The V3 is a crap screen compared to the V4.
     
  33. Kevin

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    nvm I missed posts
     
  34. Floris86

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    He or his supplier flashed the screen to V4, because the programma Monitor Asset Manager says that it is a V4 screen. Also there is a white label on it with V4, but in the green 'circuit board" (I don't know if it's called that way) it says AUO B156HW01 V3.
     
  35. Mkkillah

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    I'm sorry for you...


    I wouldnt accept it though, I would try 2 get a replacement but that is just my opinion
     
  36. kidio007

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    Hi guys. I was thinking of buying the G53SW with the AUO B156HW01 glossy 95%. There is no matte option on the hidevolution site. glossy vs matte, does it really matter on the 95% screens? Or is matte a must? And if I get the glossy, then I could just put a matte screen protector on it right? I would have gotten the Sager NP8150 with 95% matte, but the fan noise is making me want the G53SW more. I was also considering the m14X at first, but I doubt the screen on it can match the 95% screens on sager and asus laptops.
     
  37. Xerloq

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    Matte vs. glossy depends on your lighting conditions and how sensitive you are to glare/reflections. Some feel the glossy gives better colors. I prefer to work on matte screens - they're reduce eyestrain.
     
  38. yhchoong

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    m14x is ~45% aRGB. I had one and returned it. Went through Bad Company 2 wondering why everything looked so washed out. It was a sharp screen despite its limited colours however. Oh and I'm referring to the 1600 x 900 upgraded one.

    FWIW, not all matte coatings are created equal. Some are more grainy than others. Look at the generic matte iphone screen protector on a plain white background with black text on it and you will be able to see the fuzziness in it.

    Btw, a matte screen IS a glossy screen with a matte screen protector on it. Just thinner than the generic aftermarket type and factory-applied.

    Have a look:
    my U2711 AG Coating MOD - Overclockers Australia Forums

    EASY ANTIGLARE REMOVAL STEPS - [H]ard|Forum

    Conclusion: Just pick the glossy, choose a high quality aftermarket matte screen protector and you're great to go :)
     
  39. qloony

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    @kidio007

    Glossy screen definitely has more vibrant color than matte screen, if reflection dont bother you and you dont get eye strain from using glossy screen, than glossy is the way to go, especially with 95% color gamut, that thing should look great.

    I myself prefer matte since reflections bother me, yeah sure you get better viewing angle with glossy, but then youll get reflection too when you switch angle, so its too bothersome for me.
     
  40. kidio007

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    Thanks for all 3 answers! :D
    I sold my M11x because of the screen beeing too reflective and the brightness on the laptop was also horrible, making it impossible to use it outside or under bright lights. The colors on it was also HORRIBLE, here is a pic of M11x and my 1200p desktop monitor playing minecraft:

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/39/img0065mu.jpg/

    After seeing the pics at first post 95% is a MUST for me now. I guess any laptop screen would look better than the m11x screen though. :D
     
  41. Ryan

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    I got glossy and it is awesome.

    I don't know what the matte screen will be like,

    but I think it will be just as awesome.

    The brightness however, the glossy screen is a fair bit brighter than the matte screen, so you can take your pick. :D
     
  42. dave1812

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    I don't blame you. My 8130 w/ matte is easily visible in broad daylight--such a refreshing change from my POS toshiba satellite.

    ah, my matte is PLENTY bright. and no reflections, makes it so much easier on the eyes.
     
  43. Kevin

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    Actually, both screens have a typ. of 270nits
     
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    Mythologic:

    When you calibrate the screen. Do you send a color profile the user can install to his system? What program are you using to adjust the values?
     
  46. dave1812

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    My xoticPC Sager had a custom ICC file on it but it's useless. it looks worse (redder) than using the system default. :(
     
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    Yes we do, if you get an OS its already pre-installed and ready. If you don't get an OS we calibrate the system and then save off the ICC profile that we include along with the benchmark results on a separate CD so that you have them.

    We use a Spyder3 w/ Color Eyes Display Pro as the software for calibration.
     
  48. Mikaelft

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    Ok.

    Do we need one color profile that supports 95% color gamut software and one for software that don't support it?
     
  49. mythlogic

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    No as in Windows if the specific software doesn't respect the color calibration it won't respect any calibration from any source. So just one calibration is needed.
     
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    On Malibal websites there is listed screen
    17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Chimei Innolux N173HGE-L11 90% NTSC Matte Display
    I was wondering is it really 90% NTSC Color Gamut Matte Display or just a little mistake and actually 72% Gamut screens?
    What I actually wanted to ask, can anyone comment on difference between Chi-mei N173HGE-L11 & AUO159D (B173HW01 V5). Is AUO really noticeably better and which way. I hope I got models right. Thinking of getting P170HM.

    Thanks
     
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