Visual Differences Between The Different Screen Options. Photos?

Calibration changes the color the monitor displays so that they are print perfect, aka, what you see is what you get. You can always calibrate by eye to get it how you like it without needing professional calibration. The professional calibration is worth it if you plan on doing graphics work where colors are 100% important.

The Spyder 3 is a color calibration unit that you can purchase to create a calibration profile

 

Oh ok, but techinically calibration settings are changed within Windows?

 

That is correct, after you run the tool you have to install the calibrated display settings file. It is therefore particular to that installation of the operating system and you'd have to reinstall the file every time the OS was reinstalled as well. It's the same idea as changing the color settings in the Nvidia/AMD control panels, but to a level that you can't match with just your eyes.

 

Do you still have V4 or V7 screen in stock? Price?

 

Two days ago, I confirmed with this eBay seller, that they are selling genuine and exact B156HW01 V4 and V7 screens.

 

The first page of this thread seems to be misleading. V4 has always been in production.

 

Ok - good Job - but any pics of that New 95% Gammut LCD for P150EM?

 

Nothing new, the screens are exactly the same, do not get confused. All the names in the OP are just the original name of the screens, nothing else.

The P150EM remains with the same screen size as the P150HM, absolutely nothing has changed (in that area that is)

 

Ok, one question people, which panel do you guys recommend for PROFESSIONAL graphic work (digital illustration, photography, graphic design, video editing?) I want the best panel of your list, period.

 

Probably the 95% glossy screen on the P150.. Colors usually pop a bit more on the glossy screens vs the matte. If you're super concerned about quality though, why not get a nice external screen to go with the laptop?

 

Most people do that. I would recommend a external screen unless you know exactly what you are going to do do and know what screen you will need. Try checking up on things, it's hard to make choices for someone without knowing their needs such as GLOSSY or MATTE Glossy if you want to sit inside 24/7, Matte if you plan on having the sun shine down on your laptop 24/7. You get my point

P.S. hizzaah, TTU = Texas Tech University? if yes, then cool

 

I assumed of he's truly a professional he wouldn't be battling glare lol. I could be wrong though.. There are some beautiful external monitors available these days though. Something larger would probably be preferable as well.

And yessir! Finishing up my Junior year here

 

According to Power Notebooks site, there's now a 90% MATTE option incoming for the 17.3" machines. They expect it to be an AUO, but don't have any yet.

I'm really excited about this because high gamut + anti-glare is what I've been hoping to see appear since the V.4 first came out.

 

Yeah just checked AUO.. not sure if it's going to be them, they are quite the guys when it comes to updating their website, so we'll see by then

 

Very informative, thank you!

 

Wow, that's great news. Been hoping for a matte screen on the NP9170.

 

2 months later and still no word on the rumored 17" matte wide gamut option

 

You might want to ask Malibal personally on their own forums they slightly inactive here as you might have seen..

 

Very informative thread! Although its leaning a bit more towards to 15 inch options, I would like maybe a reseller or someone who has seen both to comment for me on the 17 inch options:
Both AU optronics: matte 72% vs glossy 90%. While I tend to prefer matte overall regarding eyestrain etc, my macbook at home (2008 model) has a glossy screen. Its pretty much fine with regards to reflections and I can easily work with it. Some of the more recent glossy displays (with glass covers I guess) are on the other hand very annoying from what I see here in the office. I guess if the screen is very bright (250 or more nits it seems) then the brightness from the screen cancels out the reflection.

The glossy might also be very nice with watching movies etc.

Lastly, which of the mianstream computers are using the 90% glossy? Would love to read up a review to see how its contrast and black values look like.

Thanks in advance for the answers!

So....considering all the above, and that I am eager to have a high gamut monitor for photo and video editing (with my own calibrator as well), would you suggest to go for the 90% or the 72%? Also,

 

I love my 72% Matte screen, it looks amazing. See my post
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/665682-np9170-screen.html

 

It was power notebooks talking about the 17" matte wide gamut.
Malibal wasn't in the picture here

 

I decided to go with the basic matte screen in the NP9150 I just ordered. The 95% looks quite stunning, but the basic matte looks stunning on its own as well. Hell, I'd even say that with a slight bump in red, the stock matte would look pretty close to the 95%, which seems to have been calibrated the best out of the three in this test.

 

Have a new Envy 17 with the Glossy screen and wished HP had the option to get a Matte screen. t

The glossy screen has now started to hurt my eyes but don't know if it's the glare or not but the screen is hard to look at for an extended period of time as my eyesight begins to become fuzzy and I start blinking.

Turning up the brightness makes it clearer but still my eyes start to hurt and I blink more.

Had I known this, I would have considered another laptop.

 

Two questions:

1- How can (according to OP) the 17" stock glossy screen have vastly less brightness and contrast values than the stock matte? (95:1 vs. ~500:1)? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

2- I'm personally trying to choose between the stock glossy and stock matte, the conventional wisdom is that glossy has better brightness and color vibrancy and contrast, with a lot of glare depending on where you're using the laptop. Is that still the case? I see a lot of people reporting that the 17" matte panels shipped by Sager NP9170 resellers nowadays are almost indistinguishable from the glossy ones in terms of color and contrast.

 

Oh apologize me

btw, shouldn't this be stickied? We tend to get these questions all the time, so instead of a new thread this should do

 

None of these pictures load.

 

Fixed that =)

 

What is the stock 60% matte display on NP9170 Sagers? Still AUO? Link or name please.

 

i asked this question when i was shopping around. the answer i received was "whatever we have in stock currently. It could be an AUO, Chimei, Hanns, LG, or Phillips"

 

Thanks. +rep

Where can you find good ICC profiles for each of these panels? Sager doesn't seem to provide them on the site.

Which one of these is considered superior?

 

The $30 matte? I believe it's still the 72% Chi Mei N173HGE-L11. Notebookcheck did a review with the screen.

If I was buying a 17" Clevo today, I'd take take that one. It absolutely smashes the matte AUO in contrast ratio, which lists a typical of 400:1, versus over 900:1 as reported by NBC.

Which leads me to the reason I feel this thread has run its course.

In Q1 of 2011, the default screens were much worse than they are now. The original LG which shipped in the P170EM had the worst viewing angles of any screen Clevo could've chosen, so deciding on one of the two AUO screens was almost mandatory.

Now the default glossy is a Hannstar, which is only 60% color and a brightness usually measured around 180, but has superb 80/80/70/70 viewing angles and over 900:1 contrast. My beef with it is that it's not bright. I would not trade the money I spent on the AUO B173HW01 V.4 for that one.

But this Chi Mei is a game changer.

Well, not saying the thread should be closed, but people new to the thread need to know that the comparison pics at the beginning of it are now pointless, as the screens have changed.

EDIT: - didn't see the "whatever we have in stock" post. That's too bad. If any seller can get a constant supply of the Chi Mei, that would be a great selling point.

 

You're right about the pics in the beginning of this thread being obsolete. I think one of the resellers should do a fresh one with the most common panels supplied with the newer Clevo models.

Oh well, I hope I get lucky and get a Chi Mei. It's funny that I changed the order from glossy to matte at the last moment. I would be stuck with a 60% gamut glare screen otherwise. I'm still trying to find some site with a good compilation of ICC profiles for these panels.

 

I guess it wouldn't hurt to specifically request the Chi Mei. Me personally, if I couldn't guarantee that specific one, I'd have to spring for the V.5 AUO. This $30 mystery grab bag is pretty lame.

I added a line to the OP to warn people of the obsolete pics.

 

I got the ChiMei Happy Days.

I'm assuming it's safe to use the ICC profile notebookcheck used to for their schenker p702 review?

 

What's the $30 matte screen in the 9150 if not "whatever we have in stock"? If it does fluctuate, which is the best option?

 

Ok I just got my P150EM from Mythlogic and it seems they have not used the AU Optronics B156HW01 v4 for my system.... I don't know if they have changed the stock screen or if it is a hit or miss but my screen is a LEN40B2. I have no complains about it but I am not amazed like many ppl here are whith their screens... Any words about that?

 

If you paid for the 95% gamut screen, I'm pretty sure you did not receive the correct one. Just to confirm, open up HWiNFO32 and check the Monitor tab.

What does it say for Monitor Name?

 

It says
Monitor Name: Lenovo [Unknown Model: LEN402]
Monitor Name (Manuf): B156HW01 V4
Serial: Unknown
Date of Manufacture: Week1, Year:2009

Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\LEN40B2

And yes I paid for the 95% gamut calibrated screen...

 

Well then you have the correct screen, and just aren't blown away.

 

I have this screen too, and it is fantastic - great colour reproduction, and games look fantastic (no matter if they use windows colour calibration or not).

My only gripe with this screen is the black levels are a little high for my taste. On my laptop I can see all the black squares on this test pattern except for the top row (numbers 1-5)
Black level - Lagom LCD test

On my TV I can see all of the squares. Mind you it's not really fair to compare a laptop LCD with a $1500 plasma TV.

That being said I only rarely plug my laptop into the TV even though I'm always in the same room sitting a few feet away.

 

Does anyone know the difference between the B156HW01 v.4, v.4 HW0A, and the v.4 HW1A?

 

I am considering buying a 150EM for Photoshop and Lightroom use. 90% still photography work, remainder general use.

I was thinking of getting the following option:
15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display features 95% NTSC Color Gamut in Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080) +CA$95.95

Although it seems not all upgrades are created equal, they are subject to availability, etc.

- My questions:
1- has anyone had any bad experience with the 95% gamut matte panels on 150EM's?
2- Do the manufacturers vary on the 95% matte displays?

BTW, I use an external Dell 2312HM IPS panel along with a colour calibration system on my current laptop for any colour sensitive work as my Lenovo T400 matte screen is pretty lame.

 

They use the same screens. For 99% of the cases, you might want to ask the reseller you are planning to buy from though.

And yes if it's for photography work I would definitely recommend the 95% Gamut screen. Not necessarily the Matte but Glossy instead... but it's mostly up to you

 

Thanks Mythlogic. This is a very nice and informative post. :thumbsup:

 

Since I'm not gonna work on professional pics\videos or whatever... I prefer a lot the 60% gamut...

Makes the game to look less BD style. On high quality screens, the games look like it's BD style, hate that.
Keep Cool

 

Thanks for the responses.

- What is BD style?

 

I think he means grainy, but I don't see it. I have no idea why higher color accuracy, brighter and better contrast by almost twice, would be worse. Makes no sense to me.

 

I'd still use a matte on the laptop since it's on the go and will be more than likely to be in a situation where there will be lots of glare and reflections. If you are at home and seriously doing work, then get a glossy external. But on the go with laptop, matte 100% for sure.

 

Beats me!?!

I think this doesn't make sense to anybody!

 

Most certainly, but yeah, as it fits the individual