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    W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by HTWingNut, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    I don't think you can drive this to work or school... (unless it does come with a warp core) :p
     
  2. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    I need a new job..I want at least a 1T SSD. That said, after 8 years of airline and heli travel, I have not killed a laptop drive yet. I have had baggage handlers take out 17" screen hinges ;)

    On the other hand I have personally killed two running desktop drives, one by jumping cat, one by violent sneeze...

    My point is they are pretty rugged with the heads parked, but running and dropped, we could bet on the winner.
     
  3. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The NDA is lifted, but as I said this model only comes in July, a month after the others...

    Yeah if they are off no problem, screen will crack first...but with something small like this you may run around the house with while on, at least I do with my W11.

    AFAIK the cheapest 1TB SSD is the Crucial M500 for 550$
     
  4. rhx123

    rhx123 Notebook Guru

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    So even though it's lifted someone who knows can't tell us the specs now?
     
  5. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Specs are all known, what do you want to know?
     
  6. AGoff

    AGoff Notebook Consultant

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    I want to know:

    Is it a true 765m or is it an underclocked 770m?
    Does it have an mSATA slot?
    Does it have a backlit keyboard?
    What kind of battery does it have?
    Is it a matte screen?
    How many watt is the power supply?
    Do you know if the power supply is the same size as the last year models?
    Are there and known dimensions and/or weight numbers?
     
  7. joeelmex

    joeelmex Notebook Evangelist

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    I want to know the weight in pounds of the laptop and power supply.
     
  8. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    In order:

    Full on 765M
    Yes mSATA (SATA3)
    Yes Backlit (Chiclet Style, not programmable, its just white)
    Like Watt Hours? Don't know yet
    Yes, Matte FHD/13.3"
    120W Slim
    Don't have weight or dimensions yet
     
  9. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Is it a true 765m or is it an underclocked 770m? GTX765M 2GB DDR5
    Does it have an mSATA slot? yes
    Does it have a backlit keyboard? YES
    What kind of battery does it have? IDK
    Is it a matte screen? FHD, glossy or matte is up to the vendor.
    How many watt is the power supply? 120W
    Do you know if the power supply is the same size as the last year models? They call it slim adapter, whatever that means

    EDIT: Got Ninja'd by Myth
     
  10. AGoff

    AGoff Notebook Consultant

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    Awesome thanks guys, last question, is there any word on pricing?
     
  11. BangBangPlay

    BangBangPlay Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks to both Prema and Mythologic for shedding a bit of light on the details. I am still deciding whether to build a mATX "mini desktop" (which would be my first desktop build) or buying this laptop over the summer. It looks very promising and will be a tough decision between the two. Do I either go ultra portable with some GPU power, or stationary with limitless choices? My wife doesn't seem to care either way, so she has left it up to me. She just doesn't get to use our laptop very often and has to use our tablet for browsing.

    If I build a small desktop I was thinking of getting a new GTX 760 or 770 and running it stand alone, but still have another PCI slot for possible SLI in the future. I like the idea of a challenge and welcome the opportunity to learn quite a bit through trial and error. I am going to wait until more info trickles out to decide. Any input?
     
  12. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    basically I want to know the missing parts

    Clevo w230st

    Specifications -
    Screen: 13'' - 1920 x 1080 glossy or matte
    Processor: Intel Haswell mobile processor Core i (unknown at this time)
    Graphics: 765m 2GB GDDR5
    OS: Windows 8
    Memory: unknown
    Storage: unknown
    Weight: unknown
    Dimensions: unknown
    Ports: unknown
    Price:unknown
    Availability: July

    so many unknowns
     
  13. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Clevo w230st

    Specifications -
    Screen: 13'' - 1920 x 1080 glossy or matte
    Processor: Intel Haswell HM87 up to i7-4900MQ
    Graphics: 765m 2GB GDDR5
    OS: Windows 8
    Memory: 3 SO-DIMM
    Storage: SSD+mSATA
    Weight: unknown
    Dimensions: unknown
    Ports: 1xUSB 2, 3xUSB3, VGA, HDMI, LAN, Headphone, MIC, S/PDIF
    Price:unknown
    Availability: July
     
  14. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you got to be kidding me! 3 sodimm? are you sure its not a typo?

    and thanks for filling those out
     
  15. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I haven't seen this model in real life...I can just pass on what I am told... :hi2:
     
  16. Axon14

    Axon14 Notebook Consultant

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    How does the 760m compare to the 560m? I need something lighter to replace my NP8130.
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    given that the 560m competes with the past 640m/645m and that even the intel igpu wins against that, you are bound to receive around 2x performance
     
  18. HTWingNut

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    Yes, price and dimensions and weight would be nice. It would be nice to know if there will be support for Windows 7 as well. And card reader?
     
  19. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    <at least for us>Of course Windows 7 Will be supported, just like all our 2013 models</at least for us>
    MMC reader? They make laptops without those? yea there will be one as well
     
  20. hydra

    hydra Breaks Laptops

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    VGA is back?!?

    Anyone still use it? I would rather Thunderbolt or something ;)
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I guess they envision people taking this round a lot and needing an easy connection for older devices.
     
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    mastersterling Newbie

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    Gentlemen,

    I stopped lurking and made an account to tell you all thank you for all the work you do getting the info out to the world.

    I travel and do a lot of presentations on not super new equipment and I can say that I am excited about the VGA port. I cannot wait to leave my G73 at home, she has been a warrior for three long years, but it is time to go the the land of the HTPC that can play 2 year old games on medium. Thanks again!
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You can get displayport to vga adapters to be fair.
     
  24. fnwd9999

    fnwd9999 Notebook Enthusiast

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    It comes with Windows 8 preinstalled? Since when..
     
  25. CampGareth

    CampGareth Notebook Consultant

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    I'd be most interested to know things that require access to an actual finished device like: temperatures, cooling system, keyboard/trackpad experience, whether the LCD uses eDP (if so, what are the tolerances on panels, i.e. would I be able to fit one that's 8mm too thin and 7mm too tall), is spdif through a combo port, then weight and thickness. Someone let me know when that information appears? Thanks
     
  26. Amal77

    Amal77 Notebook Deity

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    Good to hear about the 120W slim adapter.
    Will it also have 150W slim adapter? Just like W110ER where it got two options 90W & 120W, just in case not enough power.

    So Prema, what is it about the 600MHz/700MHz that you mentioned before?
    A different clock of the GTX 765M?
     
  27. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Surprisingly yes, many laptops come without those. That Razer Blade 14" has none. :rolleyes:

    Anyone use Thunderbolt? I thought Thunderbolt was all but dead. Perhaps use Displayport instead since it's pretty universal with adapters. But alas, it is what it is.
     
  28. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    well im not bothered by lack of card readers, my camera uses film still

    and thunderbolt is finally getting more products out of the gates, there are I think 4 docks for it now, 3 released and the one we are still waiting is the sonnet one.

    and that for me is the main benefit of it, aside egpus if I go for something that doesnt have one. usb3 docks are fairly limited
     
  29. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Either the info I was given was incorrect or NVIDA changed things during the sampling phase and reduced the options...in any case SORRY! :eek:

    This is what I would use Thunderbolt for!
     
  30. WCFire

    WCFire Notebook Evangelist

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    Will this computer have room for just one hard drive, like the W110ER?
     
  31. AGoff

    AGoff Notebook Consultant

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    2, one 2.5" one mSATA according to myth/perma.

    Screen: 13'' - 1920 x 1080 glossy or matte
    Processor: Intel Haswell HM87 up to i7-4900MQ
    Graphics: 765m 2GB GDDR5
    OS: Windows 8
    Memory: 3 SO-DIMM
    Storage: SSD+mSATA
    Weight: unknown
    Dimensions: unknown
    Ports: 1xUSB 2, 3xUSB3, VGA, HDMI, LAN, Headphone, MIC, S/PDIF
    Price:unknown
    Availability: July
     
  32. Amal77

    Amal77 Notebook Deity

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    No worries. Understood.
     
  33. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Will any resellers have an option for a lower res screen? yeah I know a shocking suggestion! :0
    A 1400x900 res would be better for my old tired eyes, My friend had that in a older 13" SONY laptop and it was perfect for it's size.
     
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    I was wondering the same,but likely a 1600x900, it is 16:9 form factor. To be honest I might consider a 1600x900 screen if it were a good quality one.
     
  35. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Or maybe it was 1600x900:confused2: It was perfect for that size whatever it was
    Anyway like you said it would great to have options as long as it's a goog quality panel. Don't know man 1080p in such a small screen might be too much for me.
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1600x900 is a good balance at that size, it should not be too hard to read.
     
  37. HTWingNut

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    Just wonder if that will be an option. Although it will be hard to choose 1600x900 when I know I can get it with 1920x1080. I like lots of workspace, but at that screen size and for gaming it may not be the most ideal.
     
  38. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    :no:
    Exactly what I was thinking, I guess great minds think alike! I was talking about you guys and definetly not me...lol.
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Nothing stopping you from putting your own in.
     
  40. IKAS V

    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Yes there is my penchant for breaking things that cannot be broken.
     
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    No, except finding one, a quality one at that. Is this LVDS or eDP?
     
  42. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I suppose someone might let you send the screen in and have it fitted to a machine you have ordered.
     
  43. Amal77

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    The 15.6 inch has dual vents but is very big.

    I cant see any vents on the 14 inch though :/
     
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    So we have the following competitors:
    Asus G46
    MSI GE40
    Gigabyte P34G
    Lenovo Y400
    Razer 14"
    Clevo 230st

    All have pretty much the same specs (the difference between 765m and 760m is just overclocking according to notebookcheck)
    Quite frankly I find 14" or a slim 15" ideal for work and gaming. 13" is fun to carry around but not too good for more than 1h of work.

    Y400 is heavy and even though it packs the biggest punch in GPU performance, having anything below 1600*900 for screen resolution is absolutely unacceptable.
    G46 is way too bulky and heavy for it's use
    Razer is remarkably attractive but you pay a hefty price for such a beaut.

    That leaves us with gigabyte, msi and clevo :)
    MSI looks so cheap with it's plastic build and the useless CD drive, it's not even funny.
    Gigabyte looks very average, reminds me of their u2442 and has no thunderbolt which is quite a bummer but not a deal breaker.

    Can't wait to see that backlit keyboard :)
     
  46. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    All of them are different shapes so it depends on what you are after.
     
  47. Amal77

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    Camera trick to make it look slimmer. Lol.

    You can see the vent on their video :
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    LOL they stop making comparisons when it comes to specs.
     
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    They forgot to add
    "Yeah the CLEVO might not be slim and sexy but it only is 2-3 times more powerful because you can get a GTX 780M!"
    Slim and sexy only can get you so far.
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well the 780M is likely to eat more power than that whole machine....
     
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