W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?

LOL, easy on the Thunderbolt. Seriously, I would much more rather a display port. As Meaker posted, display to VGA adapter for those few in the need. I still have some eSata external drives but only see a few machines with combo ports. Still a wider choice would be nice.

 

Well USB3 and eSATA, usb3 has more options.

 

Throw in Alienware M14x with an IPS (?) option
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/720272-2013-alienware-notebooks-revealed.html

 

Yes, but I still leave older drive cases sitting on shelf as the other included USB 2.0 port is rather glacial. I guess I can send these, my assortment of express card adapters, bundle of VGA extender cables, weighted down with Zip drive and nicely tied up with assortment of SCSI cables to the old boneyard. Heck, I getting a bit nervous with usb3..

Sorry for OT...

 

They are all awesome, but I will still wait for the day that we can have a full power gpu on such a small form factor. Until then I can live with the 15" size and weight, I just wish the power adapter wasn't the same weight as the notebook, right Clevo?! lol

 

Sigh.

I really want this machine, but I started looking back in February, when many people were saying it might be out in April/May. Then it was backed up to June, and I gritted my teeth and said I've waited this long.. I'll wait a little longer.

Now, I really need a laptop, and I don't know if I want to wait until July, especially with all the other good options out there. Blah.

 

Gigabyte looks nice, but it only has a 47WHr battery too. And IPS as nice as it is, will eat up battery too. Funny thing is that those are all 14" machines except the Clevo which is 13" and seems to have the most powerful components. Can't wait to see pricing and dimensions on this.

 

Hopefully the resellers can source a few screen options for those that don't have 20 year old eye balls and hate the screen @120 dpi settings? The IPS screen should be a welcome addition.

 

indeed as usual clevo is outdoing people on power and size, 47w quads 3 sodimm? thats just awesome

 

Sager always have done well at cramming in power. Lets hope they put in the refinement learned from the EM models too.

 

Clevo has ergonomics and aesthetics problems in most cases. The new p150em looks pretty decent but their recent trend with the p157sm is one of the ugliest laptops I've seen.
Coming from a long line of thinkpads, the clevo keyboards are just plain bad, flimsy keys and poor button placements plague their line since about forever.
Hope they changed their approach with the 13" model and maybe used some new keyboard layout and key design.

Totally forgot, my bad.
Though it suffers from the same problem as the G46. It's way too big to be competing in the 13-14" ultralights.

If they could just cram it all in a neatly packed MBP sized pc I would be flooding my room with saliva by now.
I'm going to check if I have a large enough bag to carry it around though, If I do, it's staying on a potential purchase list

If gigabyte could just remove the numpad from their 15" I wouldn't think twice.
Such a shame that PC makers still insist on sticking it everywhere.

 

It's extra keys

The numpad is very useful for certain tasks.

 

It moves the entire keyboard to the left side which kinda tilts the typing. A minor detail but I work for the IDF and we're using mainly thinkpads, I love typing on those and moving to a full keyboard design is rather off putting.
I'm obviously nitpicking. I wouldn't discard a laptop only because it has a full keyboard.

 

Does anyone know at this point if the screen will be IPS?

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Honestly we don't know yet, all we know it as is "Wide Viewing Angle" just by looking at whats available in the market in that size + res, it stands to reason that it will be

 

highly unleky to have a full keyboard. infact i cant see how it would sport a full keyboard. im cant even think of 14 inch laptops with em.
im with you ona full size keyboard with the numpad but, i like my hand dead centre to type. ive never owned a laptop with it....only to sell on bu never used it. i like my enter button on the end of the laptop and what whatever keys there too pg up, pd down, home, end etc without having to look for it delibrately.

 

For me, Gigabyte may be the winner if Sager and MSI has not fixed their keyboard issues. (Hopefully Gigabyte do not have their own share of keyboard issues)

I've tried the Sager NP9130 and the MSI GT steel series and they both miss keystrokes.
I've been through 4 steel series keyboards, about to be on the fifth once I get my laptop back this Wednesday.

So far I don't see anything about GE40 using the steel series keyboard which would be good news for me.
Hopefully Sager has the keyboard right this time as the W230ST looks amazing.
My work laptop and parent's netbook do not miss keystokes, so I don't see why gaming laptops would.

I'm definitely going to miss the dynaudio speakers from the GT series if I move to one of these laptops though.

My priorities are...
1. Keyboard
2. Performance
3. Speakers
4. # of hard drive bays
5. Size

So far has been hard to find a balance of these things among the competition

 

its strange that no one cares for the battery life on the gugabyte, its a VERY small battery, I thought since this is a very compact machine this would actually raise concerns

 

For me, 1-2 hours is fine. I'm done with college and don't need the battery life for long classes.
If I do decide to play games, I'm always plugged in.
For browsing the internet with long battery life, there is the option of tablets at a fraction of the price.

 

Wow, manufacturers are really pulling out some nice models this year... Nothing like this was about last year whatsoever... I love my W110ER but seeing all these lovely machines makes me a little sad. Thankfully, none of them are 11 inches xD

This Clevo had my eye, just out of interest, not going to buy a machine for another year and a half yet, but most of these other machines are much more appealing in terms of design and materials used in build. I absolutely adore the 11 inch form factor and don't want to leave it when the time comes, but it looks like all of these manufacturers are trying to cull this form factor for gaming altogether and move on to larger sizes. I just find it hilarious whipping the laptop out on the street and bashing out BF3 on the touchpad. I have also played it in the cinema as well lol. The only real alternative is the Razer Edge Pro, which I do like a lot, but it doesn't move on from the W110ER in terms of specs, in fact, far backwards with a ULV processor and 640M clocked at 500MHz (Mine hits 1.3GHz in the W110ER).

Can't believe the power of that 765m either. That's essentially a 560Ti in a laptop of 13-14 inches which is just crazy, minus a 256-bit bus ('necked by cores before you hit memory limits @ 1080p). Twice as powerful as the 650M O.O

I'm intrigued to see what happens this year. One thing that is for sure, these small form factors are going to sacrifice even more battery life. Maybe even down to W110ER level in some cases with the specs touted. I'm desperately trying to find a battery solution for this system.

 

still looking for an upgrade to my M11x.

 

The W110ER is the closest you'll get if you want 11.6", however the m11x is close to a 13" form factor any how so the W230ST may suit your fancy.

 

Certainly, the gpu/cpu and screen makes it a huge upgrade.

 

so any word on when we might see the specs? In the market and debating between this and the new 8250

 

Specs are out....
Is it a true 765m or is it an underclocked 770m? GTX765M 2GB DDR5
Does it have an mSATA slot? yes
Does it have a backlit keyboard? YES
What kind of battery does it have? IDK
Is it a matte screen? FHD, glossy or matte is up to the vendor.
How many watt is the power supply? 120W
Do you know if the power supply is the same size as the last year models? They call it slim adapter, whatever that means

EDIT: Got Ninja'd by Myth

 

No word on release date though? Ahh i was hoping for 770M. Might just have to go with the 8250.

 

Two entirely different beasts. One is 15" and 8lbs, the other is 13" and 4lbs. I was hoping for an underclocked 770m myself, but it's still a pretty potent little beast!

 

MSI shows off a concept gaming laptop with a touchscreen trackpad (hands-on)
3.9kg and a screen touchpanel.
Good grief...

It seems that there's an option without the silly trackpad but at 3.9kg it just loses it's main attractive point.
A good looking laptop though, the two mini DP ports suggest going for two screens, I wonder if they finally support three active screens.

 

Probably since the gt series will now do 3 + the internal.

 

But I want my Oompa Loompa Nao >:|

In all seriousness, trying to use this netbook has made me miss a having a quality mobile device...

 

My modded acer is ok for now but yeah, I could do with moving up too.

 

Great to see those specs out, it looks superb.

its making me think twice about blasting a whole heap of cash on a P150SM with 780m........ I'm happy with the performance balance of my W110ER given it's size and noise/heat output the W230ST makes sense to me..... lots of sense.....

 

Just do it Calibre41, just do it!

Then you can make some nice upgraded heatsinks for us.

 

Will this use MXM or have a soldered deal? I presume the latter, but I really have no idea how it works nowadays.

 

Not MXM, well we're 95% sure of that. It will be soldered.

 

Damnit, if there is one thing I wish these laptops would have, it's MXM. Even the uber low end cards used to be slotted It would mean you could slot in a 780 into a 13 inch machine and knowing how good Clevo's cooling systems are, at reduced clocks, it would work XD People still don't believe me that I can comfortably run a CPU at 3GHz in my 11 inch laptop, nor GPU at 1.3GHz.

 

I want one, just so I can make some coolers, mainly a replacement full cover MXM to attach to the existing heatpipes for a quick upgrade, I've already bought the copper plate........... that was £100 odd......

So, I'm sat here on the Sofa... just picked up the W110 and loaded some CAD suits thinking 11.6" 768p is a bit tiny for CAD........ and I remember reading up on how AMD's GCN excel enormously in CAD situations over the Kepler's..... maybe what I need is that P170HM/EM with a 7970m after all (or a workstation card, I believe they are available for these in some form).

......... I'd go for a 8970m but since its £5 more than a 780m at my local - it's about as tempting as sucking on a sh!tty stick!

** I assume that 8970m price will be coming down,

 

Eh, your laptop would be much bigger and heavier if it used MXM, and you'd never cool a 780m in there, lol.

 

l reckon Clevo could do it . It's power you're going to run out of way before, since that is a 100W odd card, more power usage than the entirety of the W110ER in itself.

 

That's 100W TDP, which is about double the 760m/765m. So it would need at least twice as much copper and a much larger fan to cool it. And then yes, a 240W power brick which would weigh as much as the laptop itself, lol.

 

Darn. I want this to be release so bad now.

My Westmere lappy can barely keep up with my portable VM needs

 

I might sell my W110R for this... when is this supposed to release? still in July?

 

All signs point to beginning of July.

 

I am beginning to think the P150SM is going to be overkill. I do game on my laptop, but more movies and such. I was going to pull the trigger on the P150SM, but now i think i might wait until i see this machine on some sites to configure it.

 

Aww it would've been cool if it had an Haswell H-Series or a U-series but I do understand those are the soldered in BGA cpus...the HD 5000 and Pro 5200 are much faster than the HD 4600 and the U-series' TDP is 15w vs 37-45w for the M series(Yes, I know the U-series is dual core but I would rather get more battery life and iGPU performance than quad core)

 

CPU's won't be soldered, GPU will. And dual core and qua core at idle or low power state are nearly identical power consumption.

 

Hmm...that is true especially with S0ix and Windows 8 for sleep. Well, we haven't seen any M. H or U packing laptops reviewed with battery life yet but Anandtech noted that a haswell laptop got 50% more battery life over it's Ivy Bridge packing predecessor.

I guess at the lower P-states the quads would just shut down cores so the power draw would be similar.

 

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I think we may have another contender. Trying to talk to Lenovo to see what the status of the 2nd 750m is, will update when I find out.

 

Even dual 750m will likely not be much faster than single 765m, and it's added weight and power. All these "contenders" are 14" which means likely about 1" wider and 0.5" deeper. Not a huge significance, but then they are not a whole lot smaller than a 15". The biggest benefit of the Razer 14" though is the thin form factor. But the other 14" notebooks seem to be big enough and bulky enough that if I were going that route would opt for a 15" notebook. Just my opinion and $0.02.

 

This gaming notebook will be the bulk of a 14'' anyway. And I doubt it will be lighter than the Razer 14''