W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?

It just seems like there should be a chip in between 750m and 760m

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M | techPowerUp GPU Database
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760M | techPowerUp GPU Database

Shaders: 384 / 768
TMU's: 32 / 64
ROP's: 16 / 24
vRAM: 128bit 32.0GB/s / 192bit 67.2 GB/s
TDP: 33W / 75W

Almost like there should be a 755m with 512 shaders, 48 TMU's, 20 ROP's, 128bit or 192bit vRAM, 50-60W TDP

 

and THAT would be the perfect candidate for the W230ST

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something like the 675mx would be good imo

 

that would be pushing the thermal envelope, since the 675mx is a 75-100W card :-/

 

Well the 768 shader chip is already cut down, you just wont see the power drop much more.

 

So it's not possible for a middle ground between a 35W TDP and 75W TDP GPU? It just seems like there should be a middle ground there somewhere, that you immediately have to more than double TDP to get to the next level of performance.

Also, if the W230ST is getting a 750m, the Lenovo Y500's show a ship date of 4/30 for systems with a 750m. Hmm. Aren't Haswell CPU's slated to start going out soon too? Perhaps it will be available sooner than we think!

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/381070/intel-haswell-release-date-confirmed-for-q2

" Haswell had previously been expected to arrive in June - or even as early as this month - and Intel has now confirmed processors are already in manufacturers' hands, with a full launch due later this quarter."

 

If only they would make this card mobile.... With GDDR5.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 740 | techPowerUp GPU Database

 

That's the chip we are talking about, it's a cut down GK107 (or GK207 same thing really) but on the desktop having a slightly worse power efficiency is not a problem, having a chip with slower performance than the 760M but exactly the same power consumption makes no sense (see 650ti boost vs 660 power consumption and performance to see what I am talking about).

 

That GTX 760M with 768 shaders gonna mop the floor with GTX 660M.

 

Does anyone know if the screen is going to be ips?

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The 660M was actually very weak compared to the previous mid series chips.

 

I do agree with you to some extend but desktop chips have a higher usage because they simply bin them lower and give them more voltage to assure they reach the right clocks and have a high yield from one wafer.

Mobile GPU's are basicly higher binned and need less voltage to operate. Also they use less / more efficient voltage regulators. The 650 TI is like a car running at 200mph. It consumes way more because its driven past its optimum efficiency point to preform better. If you have the one i linked before and clock it for optimal effficiency and couple it with DDR5 you will have a decent card that fits inside the TDP levels. It will preform way better then the 750m for sure and maybe have turboboost 2.0 to 900mhz if temps alow it to.

Also Nvidia changed thier chip codenames. This is not standard when they are rebadging the consumer names. I think they added a revision so it clocks higher / consumes less. Thats why ultrabooks get the GK208 chips first.

But then again im not an expert

 

If you are cutting down the chip you save hardly any power, it comes from clocks and voltage as the comparison I used showed: (images from: AnandTech | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost Review: Bringing Balance To The Force)





Look how small the power saving is compared to the performance hit.

You wont save that much over the 670MX and be able to get it down to lower power levels.

 

Yes. You forgot to look at what i said tough. Clocking a GPU past its optimum efficiency will net you some performance but it will consume way more. Thats why they ad more core cores and make those more efficient but dont increase clocks by much generation over generation.

So basicly im not talking about the 650 TI Boost but the 650Ti. The GPU alone is a good 40w more efficient (also in the anantech chart) than the 660.

Ofcourse its lower in performance. But thats to be expected. Maybe they can clock it up to a Ti Boost with boost 2.0 if the temperatures allow it.

i hope u understand me now


PS: I totally agree with you that they should put a 760m in this beast tough but if they cant i hope they opt for this if possible instead of the 750m

 

That game is pretty bad for AMD but the HD7850 completely slaps it around in power efficiency, i'm not sure thats a great idea.

Also looking at the performance per watt the 650 is not that great 40W less power but also 40% slower.

 

If 40w means they can fit it in the notebook ill take it over the 750m anyday. Its still a good 40 ~ 50 % faster than that..

Lets just hope they put the 760 in there.

Ow and Ati with Enduro ... no thanks..

 

It's bad if AMD beats you even with enduro issue titles.....

One funny thing I have seen is people take the 675MX over the 7970M saying it has more consistent performance, which it does, just consistently on the low side of the 7970M which has times when it is much better.

 

Maybe there won't be a 755M in the initial lineup of the 700 series, but do you think there might be one towards the latter half of the year? I'm thinking along the the lines of the models that had a 550M in 'em got the 555M put in them when that was released.... then again this was about 2 years ago so my memory is a little fuzzy... but my memory is pretty fuzzy about things that happened two days ago, so this could all just be my imagination.

 

GUYS PLEASE ANSWER:

Will the Clevo W230ST be able to run Planetside 2 on ultra settings with physX? Or maybe High settings with physX? Or just Ultra or high settings?

PLEASE ANSWER!! Thank you in advance, I am really considering on upgrading from my core 2 duo haha.

 

No known hardware specs yet just next gen CPU and GPU by Nvidia . It's all speculation at this point.

 

Well in theory should it be able too? Seeing as the CPU and GPU are next gen? I am playing on a e8400 core2duo (@3.0ghz), 4gb ram, and an ati 4870 card. all around low to medium settings and get about 16 FPS in large battles and anywhere from 20-70 in other battles. So will I see a massive improvement?

 

I play on a core2duo e8400 clocked at 3.0ghz, 4gb of ram and an ati 4870 card so will I see a huge performance boost if, in theory, they are next gen CPU and GPU?

 

At best case scenario you will see about the same performance and your stationary will do a better job in the long run since it's much easier to cool and overclock.
4870 is basically on the same level of performance as the 670m I doubt that you can cram something much better in such a small shell.

 

I think it will be tad better. The CPU will of course be faster and with an SSD general computing tasks would FLY by.

 

How about the P150SM? Will that run Planetside 2 on high? I am going away to college so I need something that will play it on High-Ultra with or without physX.

 

Gaming performance will be very close to the current models.

 

I played on high with i7-3630qm and a slightly overclocked 670mx with a tiny bit of tweaking.
With reduced shadows and AA you can play on 50-60 fps on high without much of a hassle but if you really want to jump to ultra you might want to consider 7970 or 675mx.

 

You guys are all missing what card is going to be in this thing... Its not the 760m and its not anything less then a 760m either..

Carry on.

 

Really sounds like this might be my next depending on price

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that sounds promising indeed

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Woah. That's big news. Didn't expect Clevo to put anything more than a midrange GPU in this thing.

Looks like HTW's optimistic predictions might be right after all.

 

Thanks for encouraging and enforcing my optimism for the performance of this product. I would not have considered anything less from Clevo on a machine like this.

Either way this means at least 192-bit then. /giggidy/

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(edit: Hmm, could it be an AMD product perhaps? 8870m or yet to be released 8930/50m? Although with Enduro leaving a bad taste in people's mouths might not be best thing)

 

If this does have a 192-bit and I can stick a i7-QM in it, then oh this will be my next machine.
Now just to find a buyer for my W150ER.

 

I wonder how much will we have to pay for that tiny beast...

 

Less than the competition...

 

oh right, never entered my mind that myth might actually be talking about an AMD card here!

 

Yeah Mythlogic's yoda speak muddies the water a bit.

 

Or maybe Clevo will fall for the hype and stick with the ultra powerful Haswell GT3 graphics! Intel says its as fast as a GT 650M so that's all we need right? If heavy sarcasm isn't evident it's there I assure you.

 

I can barely find any info regarding the 89** AMD series and if it has anything along the lines of 8930m it could be quite insane.
It could save me money on a heater for the next winter

 

The only 89xx card from AMD that i'm aware of is the 8970 but there isn't any solid launch dates for that and sounds like it might be too much for a 13" machine. Then there is the 8870, which looks like it will have performance slightly higher than a 660M, but since the 760M is most likely a 670MX it doesn't sound like this would be the card either. It would have to be an announced card between the two if AMD.

EDIT: @Alexsupreme
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/1982/AMD_Radeon_HD_8930M.html

That is the only info i could find, grain of salt.

 

If it is AMD I will need quite a bit of reassurance that it doesn't suffer from the Enduro problems that the 7970m in a Clevo suffers from.
I would prefer an NVidia card even if that comes with a £50 price premium, but I'm open minded.

 

That or offer a switch

 

Mythologic opened Pandora's box of possibilities with that riddle. I feel like Cartman waiting for the nintendo Wii to come out. Instead of freezing myself until its release I guess Ill just have to be patient. I am more excited about this laptop and its specs than I ever was anticipating any console's release.

 

I know right... however, I'm still puzzled because the initial reports of this said it was a "updated nVidia chip" inside. Really want them to announce the specs even if they can't announce pricing or release date.

 

Ya'll went in the AMD direction.. Just sayin

 

K, now I'm guessing it is this card Mythlogic.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M | techPowerUp GPU Database

(Slow work day, keeping an eye on this thread)

 

You think they will fit a GK106 in a 13 inch and keep it cool? You're a very hopeful person, would be awesome if true but that's the top end of what it could be.

 

75W GPU + 45W i7 = 120W! Math checks out, it can work! But we may need to use e-ink display, and hardwire Ethernet, and have battery powered fans. But we're onto something.

 

Also a punch card storage unit

 

Lol, I'm just trying to solve the mystery behind Mythlogic's cryptic clues.
- Not the 760M, but not less than a 760M
- Not AMD