W230ST - The 13" We've been waiting for!?

We'll just have to wait and see then, cooling and display quality will also be important

 

761M special edition either that or haswell dual IGPU baby! disable the cpu unit of the second cpu and crank up the IGP core clocks to 3 Ghz = 2 x 45W, totally doable

ok i think its gettin late.... ^^

 

Its a gtx 790mx quad sli, obviously.

 

Well "It's not a 760m, but it's no less than a 760m" (paraphrase)... what else could it be? 765m is the only nVidia alternative that would make sense.... unless it's SLI 750m. But SLI 750m would consume more power and be at higher TDP than a single 765m. I think 765m is totally possible and what I was anticipating from the beginning. Actually 760m, but perhaps it's possible. Damn you mythlogic!

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My my this just get's more interesting the more we hear.More than a 760M but no less???
Thanks Mythologic for making my head spin.

 

Oooh I'm liking the sounds of this! I was considering a W110ER but ended up buying a W550EU for the better resolution/panel quality so if this new machine can have a decent 1080p LCD, reasonable battery life and of course a GPU that'll handle medium settings at native resolution it'll definitely be my next light duty machine

edit: kinda regretting the W550EU because I ended up playing a lot of games on it, integrated graphics though :/ I technically bought the machine for work but...

 

Lets assume that it's not AMD...
Sticking a 770m is downright wrong due to the most basic fact that I haven't seen a single soldered on card above the 560/660.
Having an MXM slot on a 13" machine which doesn't look that thick is also out of the question.
As I see it, we are left with two options.

It can either be a 765m which is based on the 670mx and should have 192bit bus (though from my experience with nvidia, they do enjoy selling good performing cards with bottleneck memory bus)
or... and I can't believe I'm saying this.. we might see a mid-range 750m soldered on SLI.

*puts on the over-the-top conspiracy theories/speculations hat*

We know that it will be a moderately thick (as in lenovo y400 thick) 13" lappy.
Lenovo already proved that you can stick an SLI 650m into a small 14" frame and not even solder on the second GPU.
What I suggest is that you can do the same with 750m but due to the low emissions on the haswell CPU and the dynamic OC on the 7xx nVidia models it is possible

*takes off the hat*

It will be costly, ineffective, hot and and overkill for a tiny system. It will have short battery life and placing the fans on both sides of the laptop will be an atrocity from an ergonomic point of view.
It is however possible even though improbable.
As crude and ugly as it may be, I'd still love to own one even just for kicks and to show off.

I'm done with the wild theories and I promise to be a tad more realistic

 

Based on images we say, there was only a fan on the left side, although I don't believe there were any images of the rear of the laptop. Althogh it did look like the lid hinged over the back of the laptop covering the back side so that would eliminate any kind of vent or ports in the back.

SLI is probably but not likely. Based on what Mythlogic said, and as cryptic as it is, sounds like it will be nVidia which means 765m, and yes, probably more or less a 670mx with slightly better thermals and possible slightly lower clock speeds.

 

I've only seen it from the left side.
Well, my SLI theory just lost it's credibility.
Anyone wants to start placing bets on the price?
I'd say 1200$ for the 1080p i7 quad version.

 

One vent isn't necessarily the end of the world, or an indication of a weak GPU. My W350ETQ only has one rear exhaust vent and actually cools my GTX 660M very efficiently. I opted for the arctic thermal paste upgrade and use my custom laptop cooling stand to promote better airflow, but one vent (if placed intelligently) should do the job cooling a GTX 760M or some variant. Taking a closer look at the vent in the photo linked it looks like it is extra wide and spans a little more than a third of it's body (or apx 4 inches). The vent in the back of my notebook is only 2 3/4 inches wide, so it appears that they have anticipated better airflow and cooling for the whole system.

One thing to keep in mind is the new Turbo Boost 2.0 and how that could play a role in which GPU ultimately ends up in this machine. In other words will their be enough power, voltage, and thermal headroom for the GTX 760M to overclock itself? No doubt these will influence Clevo's final decision of which next gen card to offer us. I am still optimistic that they know their audience and their needs because of the success of the W110ER. I just hope they are aware that although the difference between the GT 750M and the GTX 760M may be minimal to them, to potential buyers like me it could be the difference between making an investment in a second laptop or waiting another year.

 

Hope you're saving then!

 

760M boost edition

 

Me too, if it's not a 192bit part I don't really see any reason to upgrade my W150 - might as well just upgrade it to a i7-QM.

 

Our tax refund is what we are designating towards the purchase and we should see it in a few weeks. If it does end up having a 750m I will still consider it, but I may look at a few other options or wait another year. I am one of the optimistic ones though and am impatiently waiting to find out its specs and base price...

 

Well if it had an MXM slot I would get one, but I don't think it will.

 

MXM, sheesh. 13" and wants MXM. Come now. You didn't think it could harbor anything more than a 750m and want MXM?

 

That's a 7970M in an MXM-A slot, I am very demanding

 

On what size laptop?

 

Well you never know...

 

Yeah, this is the Mr. Potato Head of laptops!

 

still have no idea what chip it is.

 

If its really something >760M, the laptop will probably become very heavy .. which misses the point of an 13" machine imho. Ofc the Clevo will probably not be light anyway, but i hope it will be below 2.4kg ... If not i can just buy something like the 15" Cronos.

 

It likely won't be "very heavy". Considering the Chronos already weighs 5.3lbs and has a lesser capable GPU (AMD 8770m). Although the price is reasonable. I agree that I don't want anything too horrifically heavy, but depends on the hardware it's packing. I'd rather have a 1.5" thick, 5lbs 13" with a 765m than a 15" 5.5lbs 1" thick notebook with a 740m. Cooling will likely be better in the Clevo, not to mention easy access to components.

 

I've not read all the thread but W230QT = GTX-765M like W370ST

 

Source on that info?

 

Yes, Source would be good.

 

A certain model is assumed to be ready in time for the next gen CPU. A certain model will have a GPU discussed in this thread. A certain model will not be based on AMD. A certain model will not have SLI.

 

@PC-Konsulten.se, will you sell this model in Sweden?

 

Swedish customers will have access to basically any Clevo model on the market for 2013.

 

Lol, every GPU was discussed ^-^ Ah but you're breaking any NDA by saying what you are saying anyway

 

Just couldn't bear to hear you speculate about what you already know^^

Besides, we have not signed any NDA but to be clear I am not sure which products you refer to.

 

Can we get any details about the screen of a certain model?

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Holy Shamoley! 765m fur reel... mmmm Me likey, me wantey... NAO!!!!!

Question is 192-bit or 256-bit. My bet is 770m will be a 256-bit improved 675mx and 765m will be 670mx (slightly improved).

 

Unfortunately he didn't say much to go on. So now we know that it has a GPU that has been discussed and it's not AMD and it's not SLI compatible? That doesn't really narrow it down much. The other guy from France was the one who claimed that it has a GTX 765M.

I am really hopeful for the GTX 760M, which should run cool enough to squeeze extra clocks from Turbo Boost 2.0. The absence of an optical drive only provides more space for adequate cooling and airflow design to accept a GTX offering.

 

You have been watching a lot of game of thrones, a man needs a name, a laptop needs a gpu, a laptop needs a cpu, the blue-chipzilla needs to enter in the 13 inch the green-zilla awaits for him xD I don't know just messin around but I found it funny you wrote that in that way .

 

I'll take that all day.....man these next few months seem so far away.

 

It would be 192bit since it would be GK106 based rather than GK104 based.

 

either way, I'm looking at this and going

 

And why would it be GK106 other than GK104?

On another note, I think I may buy another W110ER and give to my kids. I made the tragic mistake of buying refurbed Asus laptops. AMD A8 APU which is great for what they do, but the sleep mode constantly has issues, turns off USB ports, mouse doesn't work, keyboard won't work. Need to shut down, reboot, or put in sleep again a couple times to get things working again. Such a PITA. I didn't pay much for them and could at least gain back a couple hundred each for them to pay for the new W110ER and give my current one to them too once I get this awesome beast.

 

GK106 would be more power efficient and a smaller package.

Also I don't think anyone would like to trace 256bit GDDR5 on the motherboard, that would be a first and VERY expensive.

 

True. Although 192-bit is quite surprising, although VERY welcome. But if it were 256-bit perhaps it *is* an MXM slot... your dream come true.

 

I think that would be the biggest surprise of them all if it was a MXM slot in W230ST.

 

so if this baby had a 765m or 770m, what settings could I pay Planetside 2 on? High or Ultra?

 

I'd say yes if they are any if those GPU's.
High- Yes
Ultra - more than likely

 

If it's 765m it should be able to manage pretty much any game at 1080p with high or ultra settings. Should be a powerhouse for the next few years too.

 

ill make sure to be one of ur kids in my next reincarnation

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Do we know what current generation card the 765m would be similar to?

 

Lets say it was 768 shaders, 700mhz, 192bit GDDR5 then it would be like a downclocked (60-70% performance) GTX650ti boost.

 

So give or take the performance of a 675m?

It looks like the 760m is exactly those specs. Sorry kinda new to the whole mobile scene.

 

No, it would be behind the 675M at stock since this is below a 670MX.