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    Will Clevo be releasing a GTX 1080 Desktop edition laptop?

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by FitnessRegiment, May 8, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not a call I intend to ever have :p I do personally like knowing and if people used their common sense to filter the incoming news they could have come to the right conclusions regardless of me.
     
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    what happen if u break NDA? beside getting fired ofcourse...
    would nvidia sue you (or your employer) for money, or banned you from future events, or you got fine for some amount of money?
     
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  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I can't go into any terms like that I'm afraid, needless to say it's not a great idea to go around violating agreements.
     
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  5. marios50

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    Look I know some people that did it, it can range from big trouble to a slap on the hand, depending on your relationship with nvidia or another manufacturer and how relevant you are to the market.

    Probably, the most realistic would be getting fired from your company and a bad recommendation letter.

    I doubt "suing" or such high drama stuff happen regularly ;)
     
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    We should have lots of answers... in about a week. :)
     
  7. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Actually, in USA, you are not allowed to speak negatively about former employees AFAIK.
     
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  8. jclausius

    jclausius Notebook Virtuoso

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    A bit off topic, but unless you have some sort of severance package, then no, you can opine (assuming it is not slanderous or libel)- that is there's nothing in current Federal laws that say anything like your post suggests. Not sure about individual state laws. However, it might be considered in bad taste and might affect your next employment opportunity.
     
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  9. ukyo

    ukyo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not sure if already mentioned, but rjtech updated P870DM2, P750DM2 etc.
     
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    I don't know about you but It's going to be a lot more fun for me to actually be able to give solid information rather than just point at rumor threads. :)
     
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  11. Meaker@Sager

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    Well that is ideal for us certainly.
     
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    No DM3 listings yet? Maybe shifted delivery, DM2 models first?
     
  13. Anddo24

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    It's happening!!

    where are the 4K screens?
     
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    DM3 is on now. dual 1080's.
     
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    Models should start going live now, after announcements have been made.

    There should be more options for screens now, compared to previous generation graphics. For example, Sager is now offering a 120hz screen or 4K GSync screen on the P870 updated versions (NP9872/3 models).
     
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  16. woodzstack

    woodzstack Alezka Computers , Official Clevo reseller.

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    Are we hyped for the P870DM-G3 models ?
     
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    jasonlam Notebook Guru

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    Perhaps it is still too early to ask, but I just can't control myself :D

    Do we know if the new GTX 1070 (mobile) uses the same MXM 3.0b module as the previous cards?
    The new Clevo P6xx series feature both 1060 and 1070 to replace 970M and 980M respectively. I am not sure if Clevo has made changes to the interior to fit in the new cards.

    If they didn't do so, would it be safe to assume that any laptop that can handle the Maxwell 9xx series cards (we are talking about the space, heat and power consumption here) can now use a 1060 or a 1070? Of course, we might need a custom BIOS for that.
     
  18. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    You can see them here, will add more versions as soon as I get fresh MP version shots:
    (I am not allowed to post ES/QS shots as they are different)

    https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/10163-pascal-clevo-p-series-refresh/
     
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    Thinking about making a purchase, what are gains of a i7-6820hk vs i7-6700HQ?
     
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    Please anwser this: Eurocom Phanter 5D , will work with 1080 or sli of 1080´s?
     
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    Notebookcheck has benchmarks out, tl;dr it's about a 63-65% 3DMark performance increase over the GTX 980 and an average of a 45% improvement in various gaming benchmarks. See article for details.

    Any word on how we'll be able to source these MXM 1080s for our Sagers?

    Edit: I was honestly hoping performance would be closer to the MXM GTX 980 so I wouldn't be tempted.
     
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  24. Entionz

    Entionz Notebook Consultant

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    These. Are. Awesome! Any guess if that 120hz screen is backwards compatible on, say, a Sager NP 9773-S? :O
     
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    How much better is 120hz over G-sync 75hz?
     
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    I'd take the refresh rate with the 1080 as most of the time it will stay above the level needed.
     
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    I think you should really define what you mean by "better" because apart from the obvious answer of "exactly 45Hz better", there's brightness, contrast, color reproduction, finish, etc..

    Assuming you just mean refresh rates, from what I've heard, the 120Hz panels are also G-SYNC panels, so in that aspect, I'd say "better in every way".
     
  28. Mr. Fox

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    The 120Hz screens are not G-SYNC. But, with a 120Hz refresh rate, the value of G-SYNC is probably questionable and would represent more fluff than feature. But, I'd really like to have the 120Hz screen regardless of whether or not it is licensed for G-SYNC. I don't have any use for G-SYNC even with the 75Hz display. I only have it because it was included in the price of the machine. I would never have been willing to pay extra for it.
     
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    The Asus and MSI 120hz 1080p displays also have G-sync, I wouldn't be surprised to find that some Clevo vendors have them and some don't - or don't realize they do - leaving out that bit of info in their configuration options.

    @Phoenix bought a P870DM3 with a 120hz G-sync display from HID Evolution ...
     
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    I stand corrected. The information some of respected Clevo resources in our community were given indicated they were not. Hopefully @Phoenix didn't have to pay extra for it (unless he wanted to).
     
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    check this thread bro, the price and config is all mentioned:
    Ordered an EVOC P870DM3 from HIDevolution
     
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    Maybe not corrected, at least for now... G-SYNC certification is pending. It was pending for a while with the 4K display on the previous model as well. Should come in time, but it's not there yet. May take a few months for that to take place. It doesn't require a special panel, just has to be added to the NGREEDIA list of panel model numbers for which an OEM has paid the ransom premium. Once NGREEDIA has added it to the list, G-SYNC will magically become enabled on the next GeFarts driver update. If you don't like that driver and drop back to an older driver that worked better, I believe G-SYNC functionality goes away again. It's quite the racket the Green Goblin has going on with G-STINK licensing.

     
  33. anassa

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    I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but the Eurocom "Tornado F5" (what a name! I can already think of some jokes for it :p)

    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec

    Seems to have the 980m/970m MXM 3.0b interchangeable with the new 1070 " VGA Technology:upgradeable MXM 3.0b; NVIDIA GeForce: GTX 1070; 980M, 970M or 965M; Quadro: M1000M, M3000M or M5000M; supports next gen Pascal GPUs; discrete GPU only (no Optimus)"

    :D :D :D :D

    Does that mean later on we can stuff a 1070 at least into a older clevo?? Sounds promising, just the Bios/Vbios will probably need to be modified to get that work .. . I think we are thinking the same thing! ;)
     
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    Eurocom gave me a list of suggested names for that model and I recommended going with Tornado. I don't know why they added the F5 at the end. Maybe to signify strength. Seems a bit ironic since it is not their most potent model. At the top end of the scale on tornado power measurement, which rank from 0 to 5, are F5 tornadoes.

    The 1070 shown in the photo from Eurocom appears to be one of the "closer to normal" MXM cards @Prema mentioned that we don't have good photographs of yet. It appears to work without an auxillary power source, so it's not certain it will deliver the same level of performance and may have somewhat stunted TDP compared to a "full sized" 1070 GPU. This elusive 1070 GPU is probably the same sample that represents the only known possibility of a Pascal SLI upgrade for P870DM-G owners.

    [​IMG]
     
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  37. jaybee83

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    ok ummm....which barebone is that exactly? tbh, this looks more like the MSI barebone with desktop cpu support rather than a clevo. this also makes sense in light of the shown mxm board looking exactly like the msi 1070 shown over at TI...

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
  38. Ashtrix

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    MSI 16L1 barebones, It was first posted by some user thinking the machine as an MXM card on ebay and other link popped at the 77xDM2/3 thread....I've posted this multiple times but the threads being imploded due to the Pascal release it might got buried... finally cut the slack, discussion is up.

    It was available since 2015 @jaybee83 , you mentioned it here already :p and that one machine is the only MSI DTR that has the LGA socket and that GPU is exactly the same 1070 that the 77xZM/DM owners were thinking about to install / that Prema was referring to / TI MXM thread pic, also the same one in the GT73VR and GT63VR, It is the MSI 1070 GPU, the MSI 1080 GPU can be checked here in this GentechPC review of the GT73VR 1080 GTX powered machine in case if you didn't know, 6-Pin power connector btw.


    MSI is really retarded, the GT73VR is phenomenal ! Checkout that GentechPC review, was posted by mobius in the 870DM2/3 thread aslo. It even has the massive heatsink for the M.2 NVMe SSDs, SLI support for 1070 only, has side intakes, can be really used as a laptop xD but asking price is absurd for that and that BGA CPU also while they can bring the LGA option to a barebone but not their flagship WTF !
     
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    Thanks for the explanation! I don't think most people will know about the tornado power measurement, but its good to know there is some logic behind the name. :D
     
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    MSI never sell this desktop cpu laptop as regular consumer (non-barebones) laptop??
     
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    By the looks of it, we will need a new MXM standard.
     
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    Must not be from the Midwest (USA). ;)
     
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    Why there are no 15'' laptops with 1080gtx?
     
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    Too much heat generation, just like the 980 desktop mobile GPU before the 1080, a 15" laptop can't expel the heat quick enough.
     
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    Now that Pascal is a throttle master and with all that Junkware Batteryboost, GPU Boost 3.0 throttle 3.0 I can't even expect a 1060/ 970M class chip non MXM cards (Blade and Aorus, etc..) can hold stock clocks, coming to the 1070 and 1080 being 980M and 980N class GPUs, 1070 mobile being a true monster chip forget it inside "light and thin" machines hold clocks and perform upto mark, they need the Prema's magic else they are stuck in oblivion.. :p ;)
     
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    1070 from msi gt62vr
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hello people...after reading numerous posts, i just got a question, i have a Clevo P771DM-G, could it be possible to have the 1080M 3.0 compatible card?

    I read this article saying this:
    "Compared with other GTX 980M devices, the XMG U706 not only strikes with its generous memory configuration but also with the support for G-Sync and the GPU design in MXM 3.0 format. The graphics card could thus theoretically be upgraded at a later date - providing that Nvidia's next Pascal generation also uses the same plug-in card standard."

    could it be possible.......i have the GTX980M....no VR.............should i sell this laptop, and buy the P775DM2-G that brings the 1080M already?

    I think it does n´t make sense if it´s not compatible, the barbone is the same.....
     
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    it wont fit, the physical dimensions of the 1080 are just too big for your machine...
     
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    1080 also required extra power supply and cord, your laptop doesn't have it.

    So sadly.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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