Wishes and Expectations for Clevo [2017 Edition]

Cross fingers... I hope Ryzen can burn Intel a big one...

 

I hope people don't just stick to intel like glue regardless like last time. However intel are even more entrenched in the desktop, but people run other things more on mobile so maybe they wont be so scared?

 

If it gets close to Intel, even 80% of their processing power at the same TDP, they will get back into the mobile market.

P.S. And keep their CPU socketable. Their last generation mobile CPUs are also soldered, just like Intel.

 

We can only hope.

They have a LOT to catch up on, especially since general PC/Laptop sales are shrinking and the gaming market is growing massively. They've been quite behind on mobile specifics in gaming laptops like Optimus. Not to mention their own mobile GPUs aren't very good right now. I also wouldn't envy their partner sales people either. Can you imagine being the guy who has to go to the big ODMs like Dell/HP/Lenovo/Asus/Razer/Clevo and try to sell them lower efficiency GPUs and CPUs when you're fighting 4-5 year partnerships with Intel/Nvidia?

I think one thing AMD really needs to jump on right now (as in on launch, no mucking around) is the low/mid gaming laptop bracket (the GTX1050 and 960M bracket).
Even though their GPUs can't compete in perf/watt on the high end, if they can get a competitive GPU/CPU combo in there with 75hz+ FreeSync panels across the board they could easily win that segment. I think FreeSync is definitely something AMD needs to exploit since it significantly benefits the "gaming experience" as well as smooths out relatively low framerates.

Nvidia is really only charging for Mobile G-Sync right now "because they can" and that can quickly change. The second they reduce that cost or subsidise it in some way that low/mid bracket will go straight back.

 

For this to happen, AMD must prove itself again; it needs to make sure its stuff works better and cheaper, and not having any compatibility issues e.t.c

 

even if AMD 95W cpu is on par with 6900K. I doubt any OEM will make a laptop with it. Pro's would want to stick with Intel for "stability" reasons
(MBP, XPS 15,Precision 5510) . Gamers would be after single threaded performance where Intel is ahead

Its sad for AMD that OEMs dont give it a chance. At this point, Anti trust against Intel has more of a chance than AMD competing in laptops.

 

It needs something more as they did that last time. The Athlon 64 was dominant in every way and was still outsold by the hotter, slower and more expensive pentium 4.

 

For crying out loud just bring on 4K IPS 144Hz already. If brand new model to overcome bandwidth limitation then so be it.

 

Oh yeah, I almost forgot that era... I wonder if marketing will play a bigger than usual part this time

I am afraid this will be tough; there are no such desktop monitors yet (I want something like this too!)

 

It will be interesting how consumers will react, whether attitudes or education is different.

 

Also, the much higher usage of the Internet and social media than those days may be the dark horse here

And also, looks like... We are getting our wishes?

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...gher_clocked_kaby_lake_cpus_to_combat_ryzen/1

 

We know intel have been more lax with their binning or is it just a 7700k with the defaults set a bit higher?

 

Something tells me that if they do that, similar complaints will come up again lol

 

If it's true it's a pretty miserable. They'd be better off just soldering the IHS and leaving it at that.
Better still, lop off the useless iGPU and give us 2 more cores.
Either way, I hope AMD smacks them around a bit because competition sure is good.

 

That would be a stellar option.

 

Based on the reports I am seeing, looks like Intel IS scared this time!

 

I like a scared Intel, they tend to innovate rather than iterate

 

That would be awesome.

 

But doesn't the iGPU help with battery life? Just asking here...

 

ASUS already planned the PG27UQ "later this year". I seriously hope Clevo R&D is working hard, judging by the fact that the P870KM1-G was such a lazy effort to jump on Kaby Lake. They didn't even update the chipset on P7xxDM2/3 due to "resource constraint", which I hope what's left is diverted towards a new model entirely, just in time for Pascal refresh later this year.

 

Let's hope they innovate with real world results

It may help but the amount of problems that come with it don't make it worthwhile

That monitor is estimated to cost 1200 USD (but then again, it's 1440p instead of 1080p). I don't have high hopes of seeing something like this in laptops just yet.

 

1440p? Where did you get that from? We already had loads of them last year. It's 4K mate. Then again I see your point in laptops, considering the 1440p option from Clevo is just a few months old. I guess 4K will be for the 2018 edition of this thread
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11014/asus-demonstrates-rog-swift-pg27uq-4k-144-hz-hdr-dcip3-and-gsync

 

Argh, I think I need my coffee lol, I misread that! And I am hoping for just 1080p version of that monitor, which will be more affordable

 

Can you give any examples in particular? I know at first there were many problems with AMD Enduro and Nvidia Optimus, but those days are long gone.[/QUOTE]

 

It's more important the higher mobility your machine, but in desktop replacements where the only reason you even have a laptop instead of a desktop is you think you'll have to move it from your desk more often than "never", there's a couple of reasons you might not want integrated graphics. Firstly, they're disabled by default in most of those models anyway so it's wasted space on the die, and second, switchable graphics are incompatible with a lot of newer technology like G-Sync, and VR doesn't work if you're set to hybrid mode. While not as crippling as others make it sound, these things are pretty annoying even if they're not necessarily malfunctions.

 

The power the panels start eating though is a fair amount more which can be the issue.

 

@Tanner@XoticPC summed it up pretty nicely

Ah I see, that's something I didn't consider

 

Do you know if eDP has been updated to mirror DP 1.4 output capabilities? As far as I understand current eDP 1.4a is equivalent to DP 1.3. Now it's a matter of power usage like you said.

 

I don't think that's rolled out yet officially, and actual implementation may be slower.

 

With the rise of Ryzen, it looks like AMD will be more prominent in the future, especially laptops?

 

AMD does OK in the entry level to mid tier market. High performance mobility is a different story, but it would be cool to have that option again.

 

The thought of 8C16T on a laptop.... Irresistable! (but impossible)

 

Clevo would be stupid if they don't build a AMD desktop CPU laptop... I'm sure it would be a great choice!

 

It's unfortunately not up to Clevo, it's up to AMD and so in my opinion unlikely to happen this year :-(

 

@TomJGX, @darkarn and the rest... More on this in this thread- http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-ryzen-possible.801836/page-7#post-10471646

 

Hot swappable battery for 870xx series

 

Oh yeah. how can I forget that? Good one!

 

Any particular reason for wanting a hot swap battery?

 

Battery life too low even while browsing internet(only 2 hrs or less at min. Brightness)
Or even a iGP solutions would work just like in the msi gt73vr

 

Or at least, can bring two fully charged batteries outside, if one goes down, it is a lot easier to swap them than what we have right now (i.e. needing to remove screws e.t.c.)

 

Aftershock now has a new banner stating "Minimalist DTR" and has a 2nd of April date

https://www.facebook.com/AfterShock...8349674296172/959824284148703/?type=3&theater

New models incoming?

 

Clevo new ones?

 

Km2?

 

Nice just paid 5k for km1 and now this ! What can we expect in terms of hardware? Coffee lake will be out in the 2nd half of 2017. Gtx 1080 ti is just released for desktop. Ryzen & Vega seems improbable! So this maybe just a re-design of the form factor or maybe a new version of clevo x8100.

 

The Facebook comment says that the model will not replace their current W series and as that series is their DTR range it could be anything. But Aftershock don't only use Clevo chassis, they also use Gigabyte whitebooks.

Sorry, no.

Please see this thread from last year, I explained what was happening then ;-) Even got some resellers confused back then but it's not exactly what you want it to be!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-private-event-happening-today.789224/

EDIT - my comment about Gigabyte chassis is wrong and I corrected this in a latter post. The Gigabyte Sabre 15 uses the Clevo N850 chassis and my neurons weren't functioning correctly.

 

Yeah, as it stated "Slim and elegant" doesn't fit 1080Ti and socket processors

 

Sometimes when images come up if people actually look at them or just see what they want to see

 

The W650KK1 is 'slim and elegant' and has an LGA socket

 

Exactly, not sure how anything qualifies as a DTR unless it has LGA cpu at the least.