Wishes and Expectations for Clevo [2017 Edition]

If I remember correctly, 10 years ago any 17 inch laptop was categorized as Desktop Replacement My first laptop was an old HP 17.3 inch widescreen. It was heavy, but only half the thickness of high-end Clevos.

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I don't know if this has already been mentioned. I wish they don't put those brand stickers on the left side of the Trackpad or don't put it at all. It's a bit annoying while using the laptop keyboard for gaming as the left hand rests exactly on these stickers while using the WASD keys.

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It looks like everything that contain Intel® Core ™ i7 H-Series are characterized as DTR. Even Turdbook's in size as 14-15 inches. Used as a gimmicky fashion. A very misused words. And the buyer goes on, time after time

 

I say again:

The W650KK1 has an LGA socket

 

This one is an interesting little machine. I kind of like it. I think they should have simply dropped the GPU but I'm sure they have their reasons.

 

It's probably meant to be a lightweight (OMG! LIGHT = BAD /s) workstation notebook for those who feel the P7/P8 series is too overpowered/heavy, given the fairly mid-ranged, BGA (OMG! BGA = BAD /s) GPU inside. Not for someone like @Mr. Fox, but it's decent.

It's basically a 15" W230SS, or more fairly, a successor to the W350SS (both have the same stock specs: 4710MQ/860M).

As for the Aftershock notebook, it's probably the N870HK1. I think they called it a DTR because of the screen size, which is fair.

 

It absolutely can't qualify as a DTR, but it doesn't stop posers from pretending.

That's truly interesting. I wonder if the GPU is MXM or M.2 slotted? Hopefully, not BGA on the GPU. The one thing that sticks out as undesirable though is the Micro$lop Hybrid Graphics. If they're going to use iGPU filth they should at least have the courtesy to mux it so it can be totally disabled when not needed. I wonder if it has heat sinks actually fit correctly? If not, could be even more interesting, but not in a good way. Sure would be nice if Clevo would finish (as in fix} what they started before they start pushing new products.

 

The GPU is a GTX 1050 Ti. There aren't any slotted/MXM 1050 Tis, as far as I'm aware.

 

Well, that's a bummer. I did not know that about 1050 Ti. They should look into making some M.2 PCIe baby GPUs for extra small notebooks like that.

 

I wanted to ask with this

That
Is the new whole line-up coming up
If not then how much time does it take to for a new p870xx bare-bone to come?

 

I am unsure lol

Thanks, that's another date to look out for!

That's new, I didn't know they are using Gigabyte's stuff. Which models are like this?

I wonder if there's a new version of this...

 

You know, that is actually a really good idea. GPU over M.2 for a maximum TDP of 80 W. Only issue is that we currently only have a maximum of 4 PCIe lanes over M.2. Admittedly a low-end GPU may not even saturate that, but more is always better.

 

Maybe will see clevo version of EUROCOM 780W AC Adapter.

 

Plus we literally just had a Kaby Lake Refresh - all chassis IDs from virtually all manufacturers are updated either when there is a new Intel or new Nvidia launch - as we had Intel Kaby Lake very recently and as Volta isn't around until next year, you can likely draw your own conclusions from when new chassis will be launched.

Does look very very similar to the N870 doesn't it, and they don't yet have the N850 or N870 available yet ;-)

I recognised the MX15 chassis, but to make sure I wasn't leaking any information I did a quick google search to make sure that the information was already public - a quick google search will tell you more ;-)

 

I was under the impression that the MX-15 and the MX-15 Elite were the N850HJ and N850HK respectively.

 

You are the 2nd person I know that thinks it will be the N870

Also, I know how to Google, but not sure on what to Google

 

Yup I'm sorry for any confusion on this, the Gigabyte Sabre 15 uses the Clevo N850 chassis....it was a bit late at night when I posted that and my brain was obviously in the process of shutting down :-(

 

An m.2 Pcie mid range gpu would be awesome.

 

Anything modular would be nice (it makes servicing a lot simpler).

 

Now, if they could make the W650KK1 in a 17 inch model, with replaceable video card and 3K or 4K display.... you would get a modular, potentially upgradable, mobile machine for the geek in me.

 

MXM-A is comfortably the smallest size you can make at the moment, the M.2 would have to be wider like the HP unit (which has an M.2 GPU). As HBM becomes cheaper to produce we could see some interesting micro solutions.

Imagine just a socket for the GPU (unlikely but it could be done).

 

That. Plus a socket for the vram. All the power condition parts are cheap and can be over-dimensioned for only a small premium.

Though Nvidia and/or AMD would have to make those pinned chips first for this to happen. Would be great, for sure; most of them die because of the chip failing, not the peripherals on the mxm board. So it'd be relatively free-of-risk to integrate these bits into the motherboard, perhaps even sharing the power draw with the cpu itself. The net design size would actually be smaller than the full-mxm option; non-bga and less bulk/weight .

 

No, the vram would be HBM so on the same package you put in the socket.

 

Which HP unit ?

 

3:45 M.2 GPU.

 

Since this is a wishes thread, I wish they would double both the thickness of their laptops and the cooling solutions and upp the max performance as much as it is earthly possible right now. For the absolute top end of their lines, those laptops are DTRs, there's little chance of gaming with them on your lap either way, thinner and larger number of fins on cooling + larger area to disperse heat would be really welcome!

 

4" thickness of a p870xx

 

I honestly see little point in them being non - thick. Those are DTRs after all, they should make them as thick as needed for them to reach their max performance!

 

That's called a desktop with 2x360mm rad and 2x240mm rad dual loop.

 

I honestly have no idea what that is

 

Huge desktop to push the chips as far as they can go 24/7 in a maintainable manner.

 

Might had been a better idea at this point...

But I needed something transportable...

 

Im new to laptop gaming and I have been really trying to figure things out because ive been out of it for almost 15 years...alot has changed.

I am getting
XOTIC G67 Raider

Ive added some upgrades and changed a few things around, I know this sounds dumb but should i scrap the order and get less upgrades for the i7-7820HK?

I want to overclock yes but part of me is left wondering how much of a great idea that would be on a laptop even with effective paste and or cooling solutions again its been awhile to say the least.

I was also wondering because Xotic puts in a Prema Bios would it be possable to over clock the i7 7700hq?

 

Cancel the order and buy a Clevo with 7700K or a EUROCOM Tornado F5/HIDevolution EVOC 16L13 with 7700K.

Stay away from any laptop made using BGA filth for the CPU and/or GPU. These are fundamentally inferior products by design and their performance, service, repair and upgrade potential are limited.

Anything you can buy regardless of brand is not going to be worth a damn with a stock BIOS, so be sure that immediate access to an unlocked aftermarket BIOS mod is available. If not, skip that product and find something else to buy. Do not buy anything that requires using a castrated stock BIOS for more time than it takes to flash it into something desirable.

 

Thoughts on Clevo P775DM3-3? I could get this but im right at my limit money wise as ive spent $1,968 and if i run over even a buck my wife might suicide me lol

Should I worry about heat? I am sorry to be asking simple stuff but damn, i know when to ask for help too.

 

See this P775DM3-G

 

P775 is a very good option!

 

The stock cooling on this model is a real mess (which is, unfortunately, a far too common disaster for notebooks). This is a good option, but it requires special tweaks to not run hot. @John@OBSIDIAN-PC and his amazing crew go out of their way to get this right. It is rare to find Clevo dealers that take the extra care they do.

If you are in the USA, HIDevolution is your best bet. They go the extra mile as well, with delidded CPU and special cooling tweaks. @Donald@HIDevolution can get you hooked up. Be sure to buy it from a @Prema partner shop so you do not have to be saddled with a castrated stock BIOS.

 

Thanks man I had a feeling you would shoot it to me straight and im going to call xotic and have my order canceled and take the 3% hit, I was going to get the 17inch laptop but i might be forced into a 15inch, I like HIDevolution from what i see on there site.

System I am now considering

P750DM2-G I have to do 15inch to make this work.

I could do the 17inch but would have to stick with there i5

Considering these upgrades: (15 inch model)

Generation Intel Core i7-7700K Quad Core Processor, 4.2 GHz (HIDevolution Overclocked to 4.7GHz) - GUARANTEED Performance
16GB (1 x 16GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series Dual Channel DDR4/2800MHz
Intel® Wireless-AC 8265 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 4.2

Downgrading by taking out the HDD, I have a SSD in current crap laptop (MX200 - 250gb) i could switch over.

If I got the i5 in the 17inch could I upgrade it later? Also if I got the i7 could i upgrade that later or am I at the end of the line on that? Thanks again for the help.

 

Yes, you could definitely get the i5 and upgrade later if finances are an impediment. You can also cut corners on drives (even omit them completely, other than a cheap M.2 OS SSD) and better RAM then add/upgrade those later. Those are easier and cheaper to do than the CPU, but all good things are possible when you avoid BGA trashbooks. For cheap storage, grab a 2TB Seagate USB laptop HDD, take it out of the enclosure and put it in the laptop. You can generally find those for under $100. That will save you about $30 over buying the identical HDD without the USB enclosure. (I know, makes no sense they sell it for 20-25% less than the same bare HDD without the enclosure, but it's a good way to cut cost without losing anything else in the process.)

Talk to @Donald@HIDevolution about the Custom Built EVOC High Performance Systems 16L-G-1080 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1080 if you are going to entertain the idea of the 15-inch model. I think this is a better product than the 15-inch Clevo. (It is the same machine as the EUROCOM Tornado F5.) The @Prema BIOS is not available for this product right now. However, you can use an unlocked BIOS from Svet at MSI Forum to tide you over until HIDevolution has their own unlocked BIOS ready to go. WARNING: Stock BIOS for this laptop, as usual for most all laptops, is about as worthless as tits on a boar. You will have virtually no advanced configuration options for anything, including CPU overclocking and RAM configuration. MSI really dropped the ball on the BIOS part, but otherwise it is very well built and powerful. It also has a decent cooling system... Not a unified heat sink abortion like many smaller single-GPU laptops are cursed with.

 

I want a Clevo version of the MSI GS73VR - a thin, reasonably priced system with a Thunderbolt 3 port.

 

Isn't the P670 like that ? Except that it doesn't have Thunderbolt.
https://noteb.com/?model/comp.php?&conf0=7693048&conf1=9592937

My bad, the GS73 is more like the n870:
https://noteb.com/?model/comp.php?&conf0=8743386&conf1=8006519

I heard the 4K display will come to the N870 in May.

 

Hot swappable display panel on p870kmx
Would be nice

 

The internal connector is not really designed with that in mind (durability or electrically) on the monitor and making a durable system to clip it in would be very expensive.

 

I can't see anything having a hot swap display, unless somehow it was an external connection.

 

Will Clevo release more new systems/refreshes later this year you guys reckon? I've seen sales come and go from my local Aussie retailers. Very very tempted now

 

what about clevo p950hp6-g? and p955hq1?

 

I wouldnt be suprised if they did a refresh at the same time as Intel 8th gen Coffee Lake CPUs released. Which is supposed to be 2nd half of this year somewhere.

 

Refreshes often depend on the amount of work needed to support a new release but not always.

 

lets be honest people, what everyone want deep down is a successor of p570wm, even though you said you're not, you do!

x299 with skylake-X range from 4-12 core cpu of your choice
sli graphics 1080 or higher
3x pcie nvme ssds
2 to 4, 2.5" SSD sata 6gbps
thunderbolt
quad channel memory
large display 17 or larger
multi display?