X7200 Pre-sale price is here!

You are welcome: after all, I might order something from you guys

 

Na was normal motion, I had it in my backpack and just turned quickly to protect myself lol

I don't remember much of that dream but the laptop stopping the bullet stuck with me lol

 

get'em laptop man!

lol

 

Sorry your dreams are less exciting than mine . And I was more of a spy or something rather then a superhero (which is what laptop man sounds like haha)

 

i think there is only one thing they forget to put on this monster , the ignition switch"

true the best pics until now

 

someone not liking super heroes now?

 

Why is it this way:-

~ 12,288MB DDR3 1333MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS) (w/ i7 980 CPU Only) ( + 270 )
~ 12,288MB DDR3 1066MHz Memory (3 SODIMMS) ( + 270 )

Im looking to get it with-
Intel® Core™ i7-960 (3.2-3.46GHz) 8MB L3 Cache, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, LGA 1366 ( + 350 )

Thought the 1333MHz Memory would be better tho

 

Beautifull machine and nice pics. Bring on the review! A few questions. What is the cable catv antenna jack used for? Also was an express card slot reader left out on purpose?

 

Maybe because lower CPUs might have problem with 1333mhz ram.

 

The desktop cpu's can handle 1333 ram natively, that must just be a marketing call (and a bad one at that)

 

The pricing seems decent for such a beast.

 

I have to disagree.....starts at 2700 with 1 gpu, 3400 for 2. That is a bit high.....2500 for both gpus would be a decent price. The cpu is cheaper than laptop cpus, remember that

 

That is because of the price of 480M, if it's 460/470M or 5870MR, the price will reduce drastically. Yes, it's a desktop CPU, and desktop CPUs are cheaper, but the cost for making the motherboard X58 would not be cheap, and in the end, you get more than double the performance of the best mobile CPU anyways.

 

Well it will cost too much for me from Xoticpc if I order here in canada. What a shame... those damn tax

 

The motherboard cost the same to make as it would with any other chipset, the only difference is the actual x58 chip used instead of the pm55 chip. And that price difference is not that huge (certainly not $1k huge). The GPUs are the main problem here. Nvidia should have never even bothered with GF100 for laptops and made a 336 core GF104 (Desktop GTX 460). It is looking like the same pathetic pricing they did with the 9800m series of chips

 

If it's 470M SLI instead of 480M SLI, the price will be around $700 lower.
And by the way, you are in Virginia?

 

I sure am. I still think nvidia just botched it completely. Reminds me of the 8800GTX which was just too expensive for them to make so it was always expensive for the customer to buy. Then the G92 came along and destroyed it in performance and value

 

Which city are you in? And yes I don't understand why nvidia makes huge cards just to get in the market early. Look at the PS3.

 

In the fairfax area

They make good gpus, they just do not know how to make them cheaply, something that ATI/AMD has excelled at

If only AMD/ATI had the driver resources that nvidia did.....one can dream right?

 

Cool, I'm in Richmond.
One thing I don't understand is their cost, why does it seem that their cost for gpus are always so high? That's something that puts most consumers off.

 

will Xoticpc be getting the version with hdmi in? this was a big selling point for me.

 

this is what Xoticpc says before

Unfortunately no.[/QUOTE]

 

Yes this is true. While the option is available from Clevo, Sager has decided not to include it. We were excited when we saw that it was a possibility, and sad when we found out that we couldn't get our hands on a model with this option.

Overall this computer is seriously going to be amazing. We will be doing our Video soon so be on the lookout for my video review. Start posting the types of things you want tested and the benchmarks you want to see and I will include them in the video.

Feel free to email me directly as well

Joseph L

 

Is there anyway to make HDMI-in a possibility? Of course other than buying it from a different OEM.

 

Thank you, looking forward to your review.
The most important things (IMHO) to check are,
1) That the system (with 980X+480Mx2) works perfectly stable (power and latency wise) @ stock clocks. If you could run DPCLat Checker in the background while stressing the system with Prime and Furmark and checking the juice with a kill-a-watt.

2) Max stable overclock.
3) performance (3DMark06/Vantage/etc)
4) and temps.

* not necessarily in that order

I still think there's some dark magic around that 300W PSU...

 

Will do. The system that we are doing of will be maxed out. I may not be able to fit all that in the video, but I will post the results and screenshots.

As far as the hdmi in being an option the only Way to get it would be another oem sadly. Or the np8120.

 

Though I don't think it would be too expensive for Clevo/Sager to utilize the HDMI-in port, I don't see much of a need when the screen is only 17.3" and it's not even an LED let alone an IPS screen. After looking at the manuals and specs, I'm a bit shocked and, in some ways, disappointed that a notebook of this caliber doesn't have at least a WLED screen not including the RGBLED option. When you really think about it, there are some drawbacks to this system which may or may not be dealbreakers to some since it involves the barebone and not just upgradeable components.

A few drawbacks I can think of:

the TFT LCD screen
no HDMI-in option
the potentially problematic 300W PSU


Of course this system has quite a few things going for it including:

Desktop CPU
SLI Mobile graphics cards
two USB 3.0 ports
9.5mm notebook HDDs



I'm interested to see detailed commentary on the build quality, how the PSU works with overclocking and high-end usage, how loud it is, how cool it stays, and the other regulars you'd find in a detailed review.

Though I've been reading about this and waiting for this for months, the lack of the HDMI-in and the poorer quality TFT screen deflated the bubble a bit. Even though the system has those two "issues", it's still one helluva machine.


PS: For those who are advising to buy from another OEM, I can't see an American customizable Clevo OEM that supplies the HDMI-in version of the system. I've looked at Sager (obviously), AVADirect, and Malibal. Of course there are major OEMs that haven't gotten hold of the new system, I doubt any of them will sell the system to a comparable price to the Sager version.

Oh well :-|

 

Please also run the OCCT Power Supply test while monitoring the power usage with the kill-a-watt. This test is the best for getting max power draw from a system in my experience.

 

Why the heck doesn't this have an LED screen?

 

The HDMI in is a option on the X7200 but it there is a slight cost difference for it. I appreciate your guys feedback and would like to know if this is a option you would like to see in this notebook. If there is considerable feedback that most would like this option we can forward this to Sager and I am sure they can get this option added. Maybe someone create a poll on this or let us know your feedback.

 

It has LED backlit Screen and HDMI in module is optional - it's seperate module via internal PCIe slot=more $$$.

 

The hdmi in is a very important feature. Basicaly you have in this laptop a usable LCD. And that's saying a lot.

If you do the math 130wcpu+2x100w video not counting ram mainboard hdd+optical and screen we definetly get a figure above 300w.

Howeve we all know that second gpu is not fully 100% utilized in any game, and that might lower the consumption of the second video card and allow tdp to be inside 300w.

What happens then when you run folding at home on the cpu and 2 gpu instance and stress them all out ?
That would be a major load on both the gpus and cpu, and i'm afraid it will be above 300.

In my opinion a safe configuration would be with dual 75x cards, totaling at 280w. Like a 5870crossfire or 460\470 sli.

I understand that 460\470 are bound to arrive at a later date, but there is plenty radeons 5870. Why isn't a configuration with crossfire available ? Because for some it would make more sense price wise. Apart from that we would get to test the crossfire 5870m on a desktop cpu and see how it performs.

I sure hope the "cheap 6core" 970 cpu will get cheaper once SB arrive so that i may get it inside the x7200.
But considering the gpu, there are plenty of possibilities, 460m sli, 470m sli, 5870 crossfire and 6870 crossfire.

The best bang for the money now would be a 950 with 5870 crossfire. But such config is not available.

For now i would stay away from ordering with 480m sli, until we see how the 300w psu handles a full load scenario.

My guess is that a folding at home on the cpu togther with 2 gpu instance for about 20min half an hour togther with de-archiving something big on the background on each of the 3 hdd is gonna max out the laptop.
It would be interesting to see THEN how much watts the KILOWATT instrument records.
Hopefully such a test won't burn the million dollar laptop.

 

I don't care so much about HDMI in. Do we have HDMI out?

 

Yap, yiu get that. The thing is there's a unused "empty" port where the hdmi in should have been.

 

usually the adapter could supply much more power than the rating. For eg, my 8690 has a power supply with rated 120W power supply, but the power it's able to supply is definitely more than 120W, else my laptop would definitely shutdown when running furmark + prime95.

 

I think XoticPC is one of the best resellers

 

While I myself won't be able to get the X7200 soon, I will be getting it around this time next year. The HDMI-In option would be amazing. I was so excited when I saw it as an option on Clevo's official specifications page. I'm saddened by Sager's decision to exclude it. I think it would be an awesome feature because it would turn the machine into not only a monster of a PC gaming machine, but a true all-in-one gaming machine because you could then hook up a game console to it as well. Not to mention you could also capture video footage of what you're doing in full HD also.

HDMI-In would rock. It'd be nice to see in next year's revision, if there is going to be one.

 

I know for some the hdmi-in was a novelty and they don't mind it not having it but I was planning on also using the x7200 as my primary TV for a while. Its a big decision to order the x7200 with out hdmi-in because there is no way that I know of to add this feature after market. I am most likely going to get the x7200 even if I have to get it with out hdmi-in but I cant spend that kind of money till I know none of the resellers will have the hdmi-in option.

 

with that said i can say: i don't care at all about HDMI. in, don't get me wrong will be nice to have it for free
but i rarely use my laptop screen VS. my samsung led HDTV. to watch movies or play console games

 

I have to agree. 300W is just the rating. The I ran a stresstest prime95 with 8 threads + Furmark. The i7 820QM alone drew 60W. The GPU drew at least 75W - most likely more. So the 300W PSU will be enough for the X7200 with full load on everything (this is Clevo after all), Overclocking, however, is another question.

The X7200 will use a HANNSTAR HSD173PUW1-A or a AUO B173HW01 V.4 as display, that's what the manual says. So it has a LED screen.

 

Anyone buying this does not car much about quality period. The screen is the cheapest 1080 screen they could find and put in a laptop. The 480ms are just crap, overpriced over hyped. I read this thread just to have a laugh at people with obviously alot more money than sense. I use a tri 480 desktop and my notebook is a hp with dreamcolor. Clevo is just junk. My ideas for upgrades..

Alum casing
IPS panel
backlite keyboard
Decent touchpad
A warranty that does not require 3 day shipping.
470m sli

My laptop breaks HP send me a label and its next day air, I get it back within 3 days. I will consider Sager/ clevo if my wishlist is complete.

 

you don't have to use a 130w CPU here is a 95w that will give you more headroom Newegg.com - Intel Xeon X5660 Westmere 2.8GHz 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 95W Six-Core Server Processor BX80614X5660

 

The screen is certainly not the best around and Clevo should have included a RGB LED screen but it's definitely not the worst or cheapest available. It's the same screen used in W870CU/W880CU and those displays got good or very good ratings in all reviews. Also nobody hyped the GTX 480M, not in this forum nor in any review - at least not those made by serious reviewers. Every company promotes their product, it's their job. The X7200 uses brushed aluminium surfaces. Who really needs a touchpad in such a laptop? Backlite keyboards are a nice gimmick but not essential. Lastly, GTX 470M SLI will be an option for the X7200. You got a point with the warranty, but my Clevo reseller sends me a RMA ticket within the same day, they'll have 2 days tops to fix the problem, then send it back, which makes 3 days.

So what's left is: Not the best screen + no backlite keyboard. On the other hand you have performance that is far beyond anything that HP has to offer. I wouldn't call that crap.

 

How does this post fit into this thread at all? Insulting all the people considering this laptop is not a good route to go if you want anyone to take anything you are saying seriously. Saying things like "I spent $1500 on graphics cards for my desktop" does not add any credibility to you, if anything it takes it away.

For "just junk" clevo seems to have done pretty well for themselves in the last 5 years.

 

Isn't it kinda funny, that 470M SLI will cost less than a single 480M?

Anyone going with the 480s is crazy (do I need to say imo here?).

 

Yes! For some people this might be a dealbreaker.

 

Lets see some reviews. Maybe some stores could give us some numbers like standard tests and power consumption.

 

It has a brushed alum finish, with mostly plastic as casing, it's already near 12lb, do you seriously seriously want it to be full alum casing which will make it at least 15-16lb?

The WLED panel is only after IPS and RGBLED panel, I would say it's good enough, though having IPS is a good choice, but it would add even more to the already expensive price.

Backlit keyboard - Well, I think maybe Clevo's designer simply have something against backlit keyboard, not really a big deal practically though.

touchpad - who the hell uses a touch pad for desktop replacement laptops...

470m sli - Oh it will have it, at least wait for 470m to be released first?

 

Backlite keyboard for me and many others is a deal breaker. Not because I need it to use in a dark room. It make my life easier, I dont need dashboard lights in my car either but its nice to have. Also i am not bad mouthing the x7200 my co worker ordered one already. I have my son my 901 clevo, I just want quality for my money. Is this too much to ask. Clevo is popular because they have no competition. Name me one high end gaming laptop other than alienware built for hot wheels users.

 

Alot of not "hotwheels users" (which I assume you think means kids) have purchased and like the Alienwares. Alienware also has improved alot since Dell took over - for example standard next business day ON SITE repair. Asus has also stepped up their game in the last year for gaming laptops. And the x7200 should offer better value than the D901c....which had the same "overpriced over hyped" gpu selection as the x7200. $900 for a 9800m GTX? Really? You also have something that is not completely plastic this go around.