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    X7200 Pre-sale price is here!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, May 30, 2010.

  1. Johnksss

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    that was speedy gonzales. not mine.
     
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    pasoleatis Notebook Deity

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    Yes the cpu is unlockecd, but there is no BIOS option in D900F and D900C and as afar as I know as well also in the x7200. There were many people who got cheated by the advirtise " Get an extreme cpu in your laptop" just to find out that there is no option to change the multiplir even if the cpu was allowing it.
     
  3. Johnksss

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    i had a d901c with a qx9650 thinking i could over clock it, but in the end. i could not. so i sold it. clevo was very well known for locking down the bios.
    everyone knows you cant readily over clock clevos. thats what the search function tell us.

    you are wrong about the d900f, because an extreme cpu can be over clocked in it. gophn already proved this.

    and as for advertising..you were not fooled...you just assume that it was possible. and for the d901c they never said you could over clock an extreme. and i talked to them and sager about allowing it in the d901c. they basically said..hell no! so i ditched it and called it a day.

    and it's already proven that you can over clock the x7200. if you use the search function..you too will see the pictures posted by xoticpc.
     
  4. daikyu

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    And the overclock of the 980 is in windows using the Intel XTU? or whatever their utility is called. I don't believe it is a bios overclock, although the utility may change bios settings.
     
  5. Johnksss

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    xtu is bios over clocking for windows.
    it has most of the needed voltages to change for a higher over clock.
     
  6. cookinwitdiesel

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    XTU changes the bios values. It is not purely a windows OC, a reboot is often required. Also, in order for XTU to work, it is has to be enabled in the bios to allow those changes to be made - something clevo/sager knowingly did to please customers this go around. The 980x is absolutely overclockable in the x7200, as are all the other cpus (although you can only raise the multiplier on the unlocked extreme chips)
     
  7. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    the i7 980x was overclockable on the D900 with setfsb the problem was the memory timings the max i can overclock was 3.43 ghz from 3.33 stock

    i try evga eleet but it doesn't work at soon as you put load on the cpu the clock go down to 3.33ghz. from 3.8ghz.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. cookinwitdiesel

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    You can just get ram with looser timings though....?
     
  9. pasoleatis

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    Have anybody else being able to unlock the multiplier on there own D900f except Gophn? Ias it available to the average user?

    Please give me a link to the pics from xoticpc.
     
  10. Speedy Gonzalez

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    yeah, well the machine is gone now nothing i can do :)
     
  11. cookinwitdiesel

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    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    If you see a company selling Clevo notebooks at higher prices than Sager, you can always ask if they will price match because some of them do. :)
     
  13. theriko

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    has anyone tried throttlestop on the D900c/f? It works on my M570RU (up to 3.6GHz stable on my x9000)
     
  14. Speedy Gonzalez

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    i tried, it don't work .
     
  15. theriko

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    did you try forcing it into extreme mode (extreme=1 in the config file)?
     
  16. genocidew

    genocidew Notebook Evangelist

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    question bout x7200, if i config it with i7 980 processor and dual 480m sli, wont the wattage already add up to 345 watt, being the processor at 145w and for each 480m is 100w.

    now the psu adapter that came with it is 300w, will it have problem to power up the machine, since this did not count other peripherals like the hdd and etc??

    maybe reseller could help clear this doubt :)
     
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    hottestzephyr Notebook Consultant

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    Kobalt list this notebook with 1xhdmi 1.4 input. is this a typo? if no, uk owner will be proud but us owner may head up with sager :p
     
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    raynefall Notebook Guru

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    there is so much we want to know about this machine,please please lets see a review soon.........
     
  19. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Its no typo, I asked for it in their forum, Kobalt then called clevo who then told them that they would be getting the hdmi in option :D
     
  20. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    Lucky.. I might seriously start a petition for that.
     
  21. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    You should, If it is an option any customer who asks for it should get it no?

    Sager made a mistake by not including it, clevo made a mistake by not making it a standard feature! Its standard in their x8100 model, why not in the bloody x7200?
     
  22. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    I wonder what the actual reason is for not including this. Cost seems unreal because that thing isn't really going to add much to the price. Maybe they're lazy?
     
  23. lawtq

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    It leaves me scratching my head as to why, but its too nice a feature to leave out. Each day seems like a week and still no reviews
     
  24. hottestzephyr

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    I think the reason is they want to make hdmi in as the selling point of np8120. if both machine have this option, no reason to buy np8120 (just for me).
     
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    It's not as much that they don't have it that's the issue, it's the fact there's a darn plugged hole where it should be! This is supposed to be the cream of the crop, the pinnacle of notebook power and ability, yet they cripple it in a sense and show its scar with the plugged up HDMI-in hole. If there weren't a plugged up hole and the area where the HDMI-in would be were just flush with the rest of the chassis then I wouldn't really care as much. Sure I would be disappointed, but I wouldn't be frustrated every time I look at that 14mm x 4.55mm space knowing I thought I had the greatest notebook (for its time, of course) fully loaded to the brim.

    That's just my opinion of course.
     
  26. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    This is almost exacty how I see it lol
     
  27. Blacky

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    Don't buy it from Sager then. What's the big deal ?
     
  28. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    No hdmi input as standard, but its no biggie to you, thats fair enough, it means different things to different people
     
  29. hottestzephyr

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    not only sager that stated no hdmi-in. just remembered that rjtech and lpc digital which sale barebone also said no hdmi-in so it's mean all vendors in America don't have x7200 with hdmi-in. anyone want this option must buy oversea from uk. funny enough :D
     
  30. Aikimox

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    Because all American resellers buy it from Sager (the distributor)
     
  31. physib

    physib Notebook Evangelist

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    Which is why I'm starting a petition. Or someone do it before tomorrow lol
     
  32. Speedy Gonzalez

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    we really have more important things to worry about like power issues , how good the machine will be with HDMI in and stuttering all over the place :p
     
  33. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    totally understand all your frustration on the other side of the pond.
    when i uploaded the user manual last week i was gobsmacked to see it was optional and double checked with kobalt who double checked with clevo :eek:

     
  34. lawtq

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    Who then told you that they were getting it yes? Good news
     
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    yes :D
    does that mean we might be saying welcome to kobalt have a nice day.
    still sucks though for you guys over there.
     
  36. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Great news, just like I received, fingers crossed clevo weren't bs'ing them
     
  37. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Please note:
    That the reason US Sellers did not request the HDMI-In port in the x7200 is that it DOES NOT display or produce true 1080 HD performance. It maxes out at 720 or the most 1080I. It does not let you record it in 1080HD or even at all some have said.

    If newer HDMI-In modules are made in the future that allow FULL 1080P correctly then it may be added in the future. This is the official word from Sager and other dealers. :)
     
  38. lawtq

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    Thanks for the update, interesting, but I still prefer it in there.

    So even though the hdmi input is apparently version 1.4, it cant pruduce full hd? How is this possible? A bios update is needed maybe to correct it?

    Anyone who know the ins and outs of hdmi 1.4 please fill us in
     
  39. cookinwitdiesel

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    The output is full hd, he is saying the HDMI in cannot accept full 1080p. And of course it will not let you record via hdmi in due to copyright concerns (read: blu-ray copying)
     
  40. hottestzephyr

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    so the one in np8120 can accept full 1080p? if it do, why didn't they use the same one as np8120?
     
  41. lawtq

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    Apologies, I realized my typo and corrected it, I meant hdmi in. Still, 720p is good
     
  42. cookinwitdiesel

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    720p is fine for anything but gaming. I have a 52" 720p tv and it still looks spectacular for blu-ray compared to sd
     
  43. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    That is the same one that is in the European x7200's. Many have complained about it's performance.
     
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    Can i get anyone else on this my partner pre ordered a x7200 dual the base was 3.5k xtopic i see on sage its 2.7k why is it so much cheaper from sager ?
     
  45. Aikimox

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    Ahoy Matey! A typo on em website. If ye can jump on it and get it for tha price - wow! Swabbies! I almost want to pull tuh trigger meself !
     
  46. physib

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    So Sager made a typo about the price? Then you can just sue them for false advertising and buy the computer for 2.7k lol
     
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    It looks like they didn't account for the extra 480M in the price. Other sites allow you to choose 1 or 2 of the 480M's. sager only had the dual SLI available, but didn't raise the price lol.
     
  48. Aikimox

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    Grab 'em by the hojoes while ye can!
     
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    Yah I am wondering about this. I went ahead and placed an order with Sager. Will they honor this price? Also if I wanted to buy from Xoticpc(who i like better) will xoticpc pricematch sager?
     
  50. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Ahoy! Me be watching yer progress, lad!
    Xotic won't pricematch it. The price is wrong. Sweet deal...
     
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