X7200 Pre-sale price is here!

Not sure if it applies to US. But here, a buyer/seller contract is only legal binding is both seller/buyer is aware of the agreement and the intentions are mutual. So, if it's a typo or technical mistake, they can back out of it.

 

woops i just emailed Frank at Sager to ask him about the Typo
Im thinking of ordering one real quick. I highly doubt they will give it to us for that price.

 

Isn't it that the presale offers are more expensive? at least you get your laptop before the others. That's the price to pay to be the first to have one.

 

Is this realy typo ? No comments on here from any reseller I am wondering as a typo would mean one number off and i can't imagine it would be 3.7. Maybe those resellers jumping the gun got it wrong. I can say one thing sager will have this type of mistake covered in some small print if it is a typo. But as far as I know you have to honor the price you post, and the fact they have not bothered to change it makes me think it stands. Maybe a weekend launch deal. I say order the sucker you may kick yourself in the next week when a bunch of dudes are gloating on here how they paid a hell of alot less.

 

Unfortunately it does seem that the price is wrong. The same configuration from MySN (EU) without VAT is 3700 USD, exactly 1000 USD more.

The only way the Sager version of the x7200 can cost 2700 USD is if it has only one GPU instead of two. I think the typo is not in the price, but in saying that it offers a dual 480M solution for that price.

 

It absolutely, positively IS A TYPO. Think of it. If that price were true then Sager would have to refund more than $700.00 each for all of the SLI orders so far from Resellers, and there has been quite a few to say the least. They will adjust the price soon to be correct. Certainly by Monday.

 

It is a mistake. A single card at that price is correct, and they just didn't do the upgrade correctly.

Why would you want to buy from Sager directly anyway?

 

and still nobody has received your system? is assumed that the orders were sent this week

I am very anxious to see what awaits me when I get my machine to be honest I wanted to receive the first system to publish performance analysis and temperatures but seems not to be so

I have been informed that the complete systems had priority over the barebones that I get for being cheap lol.

 

Lol, I put in a order with Sager, let's see what happens

 

Avast Matey! 'cause is less coin, that's why, ye scallywags!
Honor tuh deal or walk tuh plank, me says!
Sager make bloody mistake - Yo ho ho!

 

Check this guys:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...clevo-x7200-owners-lounge-41.html#post6715054

WOOOW

 

Very nice. Very very fast....shame about the price

Although for anyone looking to save a few quid, theres a possibility you WILL see crossfire 5870m's in this beasty. Reason I say this is I decided to look at the VBIOS that comes with the X8100 5870s, out of interest, and lo and behold....look what it said:

"Clevo X7200/X8100 BroadwayXT GDDR5 UCODEv:126"

 

In all fairness, that Vantage score is not comparable as he ran it with physx enabled.....it would be closer to about 16k with physics disabled as the cpu score would not be 55k...it would be about 25k

 

That's very interesting!
Now, if they land a 6870 CF in there and offer a better screen, - I might get tempted...

 

Hopefully Sager/Clevo will make a X7201 or whatever (presumably to be the Sgaer NP7285) with CF 6870s, perhaps Sandy Bridge, utilize that plugged up hole that was the HDMI-in to be slot, and maybe a RGBLED screen. The system as is right now is one of the most complete notebooks I've ever seen even without HDMI-in and the RGBLED screen. I don't think there's a single other notebook with 2 USB 3.0 ports and that's just talkin' ports! This thing is just a friggin' beast and if Clevo didn't mess up on power consumption then this is a mawnstuh!

Clevo's ma homeboy, js.

 

The X8100 also has 2 USB3.0 ports in its current Crossfire enabled iteration. Im looking at them right now
It's an NEC/Renesis controller

 

Everyone with usb 3.0 is that same nec controller right now. Desktops and laptops

 

Ahh, I stand corrected, thanks for the info. For some reason, last time I looked at the updated X8100, it still showed it as having the 3 USB 2.0 ports, but that's on XoticPC's page and not the updated official Sager page. Either way, to my knowledge at least, all the Asuses and HPs and whoever still only offer a single USB 3.0 port on their system. But Clevo is a whole different monster and the greatest ODM in the business in my opinion with Asus being a fairly close second.

 

Flextronics has also been a great odm. Their stuff has also been branded as arima, who they bought.

 

Yeah but what has Flextronics made since the OCZ barebone that has yet to be updated from it's CF 3870s GPUs?

MSI is ok and their new 17" laptop looks ok but the 1680 x 1050 screen is a deal-breaker for me. Maybe they're buying out the rest of the non-HD 16:10 screens but I can't really call it a good gaming laptop.

There are tons of "good" ODMs but they tend to be used by the "big names" like HP and Dell who will cripple the array of options and make a potentially good machine be crap (at least hardware wise since you Dell and HP could take an X7200 and bloat it to the wraths of hell). What I love about Clevo that isn't the case with Asus is the ability to customize. Then again, if Asus did the same thing then you wouldn't get the amazing bang for your buck as you would with a fixed machine with fixed components bought in bulk for a discount.

Clevo is really unique in what they do so you're comparing apples to oranges, but whatevs.

 

Boy are you clueless. Use those money bags to buy yourself a brain.

 

Avast! Yet another sea dog's walking tuh plank, straight to Davy Jone's locker!
Blast me off, me hearties!

 

indeed. Most of what dell sells right now is them as well as about half of alienwares old lineup and all of their current lineup. They also make excellent power supplies.

 

*facepalm*

 

If Dell uses them so much then they must be pretty crummy since Dell has such horrible notebook reliability. Survey showed Asus has the best notebook reliability but Clevo isn't mentioned since they only list the OEMs like Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc and I don't think any of the big name companies use Clevo as an ODM. I don't think it's fair to call me clueless because I do make some valid points and Dell's computers are neither attractive nor noticeably well built so it's hard to like something or call something good without those two traits.

 

Dell actually makes great laptops. You just hear about them breaking more because they sell a huge amount of laptops compared to anyone else. Clearly you have not actually had a flextronics laptop. I have had a few. They have been better than quanta or compal easily. The asus I have is nice but feels a little cheap (screen is VERY cheap).

 

what asus you got??

 

Ul80vt-a1

The finishes are ok but overall, it feels a little cheap. Especially the screen and keyboard flex. The screen also flexs a lot.

 

ahh, ok..i got a 1101hab i was testing and fixing.

 

It is an ok laptop but nothing blowing my socks off about build quality (something my M17x easily does). The asus looks better than it feels.

 

As with just about every electronic, quality has been really declining over time, specifically the last 4 or 5 years.. Dell used to make great computers, which is why they were able to become so successful in the first place. I've used older Dell laptops (school computer) and they were decent for what they were, but nothing to write home about.

When searching for a laptop at Best Buy and everything, I saw the Dells and they were pretty generic and bland. Notebooks that did catch my eye were the Vaios and the Asuses, but they were more expensive and not as mainstream without many models to choose from. Part of why Dell and HP are successful is because they can make many computers and sell them for cheap. The other main reason why Dell is so successful, as with HP, is because they are easily obtainable and are sold at just about every retailer that sells notebooks. Even stores that don't specialize in computers such Wal-Mart, Staples, Radio Shack, etc. still sell Dells and/or HPs. I'm not saying Dell laptops are atrocious in regards to build quality since they aren't horrible, but the components they offer and upgrade ability and all that is far from ideal.

It's like the saying "a shooting game is only as good as its guns", the same can apply with computers and components, and Dell DEFINITELY falls short in that category in my opinion, even the Alienwares.

Oh, and by the way, I have an HP and it was a HORRIBLE purchase all around. The touchpad is all funky, the customer service is crap, the notebook itself has fallen apart numerous times to be sent out and fixed. The only real good thing about this notebook is I got it for a good deal and HP upgraded it to a new Windows 7 model after so many issues. The only problem is the new, upgraded DV6 one exhibits many of the problems my DV5 had.

 

Arrrrhh! Ye dare to compare 'em consumer junkies to quality ships, ye scallywag! Clevo, AW, ThinkPad, Elitebook, Precision, etc - these boats shall sail well on fair winds! And... Bestbuy's fer em hornswogglers! Swabbies!
Weigh anchor! Heave - HO! Heave - HO!

 

AW is a compeletly different producer then DELL. It has its own engineers, designers and manufacturing facilities (well some at least).

If you think AW has been falling short in quality, you might as well say Clevo is garbage is too. The fact is AW and Clevo are essentially neck and neck in terms of performance, cooling and quality with the exception being AW leading in synthetic benchmarks and having a RGBLED screen. The synthetic crown will undoubedtly fall to Clevo until AW releases its next gen.

 

Clevo hasn't to this day built a solid notebook like the M17x-R2. The X7200 (while being a great performer) is still a plastic brick with a standard WLED screen.

 

Alieware fanboy!Get him!

 

Sager Fanboy here!!

I wouldn't say Sager isn't solid. Your smoking crack son!! Sager has nothing but SOLID well built laptops. So Solid they weigh 10-13lbs. LOL Alienware looks like cheese ballz if you ask me!!!! All those lights and colors are too much for me. Oh and way overpriced too. I like the military look. Its all about the three S's.
Sleek-Simple-Sexy!! Where I live if I owned an Alienware lappy, people would think I was gay. lmao hahahahahahah "arrrrhhh matey shiver me timbers" as Aikimox would say...

 

I'll agree with you the external Chassis is heavy duty plastics, not aluminium/magnesium, but saying they're not solid is going a bit far. Having seen inside a few models now, the cooling solutions are pretty robust, as is the internal caging/chassis. All metal.
On top of that whether you prefer the look of Clevo vs Alienware is purely aesthetical taste. Alienware's tend to be that bit more flashy, whereas Clevo tend to be a bit more sleek/workmanlike. The X7200 was always going to be a bit of a brick as it's intended as a mobile workstation, I doubt aesthetics even really came into it, much like the prior D900F (which I've seen in the flesh...tis a bit of a beast,even if unwieldy)

It'd be nice if they brought RGB LED to Clevo someday soon, but an IPS/VA based panel without the viewing angles larger TN screens have would be even better.

 

@ handsomerob

Wasting your time, only people that buy alienware are noobs.
Alienware once was like sager high end boutique now dell go over the top with alien style and lights. Its a badge computer if alienware as so good how many have alienware desktops ?

I see alienware i think vanilla ice.

Also no attack on joker I think he does awesoem reviews and has done so much for the alienware community, he should be handed an award. He took what was a non working POS and helped get it right.

But would he buy another ?

 

Well done Xotic with your youtube review!

YouTube - Sager NP7280 (Clevo X7200) Ultimate Laptop Review Part 1 of 2 By Xotic PC.com

Not being ungreatful but wanted a more comprehensive review, real world game benchmarks, (enough of 3dmark) a look at the OC tuning software, but I guess its a first look kind of review, its good

 

So it has brusshed alluminium as M860TU right? At least the palm rest huh?

 

Plenty of non-noobs buy alienwares.....don't even get me started on that. And as for the desktops, you can build your own desktop. ANY boutique pc maker charges a huge markup on desktops compared to what it would cost to make yourself. If clevo made desktops they would have the same problem.

Flaming individuals (or groups of people as a whole) adds nothing to the conversation. And Joker has bought 3 alienwares that I know of now

 

Having just taken a look at the Xotic PC youtube review I'm actually a little dissapointed with the 480ms in SLI. Considering how much they cost (like almost twice as much per card as the 5870s), and they're being pushed by a more potent processor, I was expecting a much bigger performance difference from 3dmark Vantage.

The overall score is inflated for Physx, but the GPU score, the important part, is only about 1.1k higher than what I get with my machine (just shy of 14k). Hopefully the performance will transition better to realworld titles, or I'll be a little dissapointed that you don't get more out of those. 5870s with a comparable processor would probably be surprisingly close, suck less power, and would most likely be able to catch that and exceed the 480ms once overclocked. Now obviously you could overclock the 480ms, but then with the power draw...

 

I consider the performance within 5-10% of the 2 (not much for the price increase), the main difference will be the driver support. Historically nvidia wins the driver support battle though

It will come down to which you prefer (assuming price is not a concern haha)

 

No disagreements there, although both sides are capable of shoddy drivers. I was just expecting more of a performance gain for what is reasonably a fairly massive increase in price, especially as that test was with a high end desktop processor.
I figured they would push the gap that bit further. It'd be interesting to see what ATI 5/6 series cards would do with that processor.

 

I agree, I am very curious to see how much of the 06 score was due to the processor rather than the gpus, since 22k on nvidia notebook gpus is unusually high compared to ATIs offerings

 

Xotic pcs, please make a 3dmark 2006 run in the standard 1280x1024.
Since my laptop has a 1366x768 res i can't run a vantage to make a comparison.

 

They did a 2006 run...it was 22k and change.

All of the runs being done are at the standard 1280x1024

 

XoticPC did a good job with the video review but how the hell did they not review the LCD!!!!!

 

This site has many more option, when we config the laptop
AvaDirect

Thanks

 

I didn't say they weren't solid, I said they weren't solid like the M17x-R2. Clevo is my close 2nd pick for an enthusiast notebook and yes their cooling is great but the chasis/looks/panels/warranty/lack of extras (e.g. backlighting) leave a lot to be desired. If Clevo improved the looks, added IPS/RGB LED (with profiles) and had a more solid chasis, it would become my #1 pick. MSI/Asus tied for a distant 3rd though I'd pick a professional Dell/HP class of notebook before I'd buy an Asus/MSI.

I've purchased several AW's already and would buy again if it's built like the M17x-R2. The other guy did have a point, Dell likes to cripple things for no reason sometimes (e.g. bios A08) but they also put out fixes that no other vendor has until several months later (e.g. working powerplay and crossfire).