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    X7200 Pre-sale price is here!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, May 30, 2010.

  1. physib

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    Someone is bound to have it :D Maybe they are too busy gaming right now.
     
  2. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    I do. I have posted many, many things so far in the lounge... ;)

    One vantage score below...right now the nVidia driver is not letting me disable pys...

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Quadzilla

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    Very nice Hemi.. You might crack that 20k GPU nut soon ...
     
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    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Nice score, game benchmarks please! I dont care what anyone says, this machine is good!
     
  5. Quadzilla

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    This machine is "good" and anyone who says otherwise must be crazy ;)..
     
  6. Speedy Gonzalez

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    Who say "This machine is good"? i tough i hear "This machine is good" :D
     
  7. Bytales

    Bytales Notebook Evangelist

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    You guys are crazy. The laptop i currently have has a 240m gpu, i got it with 4gb ram t4400cpu, and 640gb hdd for 300 eur just to wait for a good laptop.

    So far, it seems it suits my needs.
    Since the clevo sli is about in the range of 15000p gpu points in vantage, and my laptop is about 2000, the reasoning is such a clevo dual gpu machine will last me a very very long time.

    Since my current laptop suit me fine so far, i will wait until i will get a 970 core i7 x7200 with 12gb ram, and dual 6870 gpus. Nvidia with its physics kinda pisses me off. It gets you physics with drop of frame. When ppl pointed out, most cool title have cpu physics built into the driver.

    So a 20k p gpu score in vantage, like the dual 6870 otta score, and a six core cpu with 12gb ram, it's gonna last me a whoooole lotta time.
     
  8. Speedy Gonzalez

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    @Hemi...

    can you do a vantage run with this clocks please? 540/1350/1079 ;)
     
  9. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Man, I wish you had your x7200 already speedy, You would bench the thing to death! Real "good" lol
     
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    your wishes are my commands " ;)
     
  11. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Re-he-eally?! In that case I wish you to send me the laptop as soon as you receive it for permanent testing!
     
  12. Speedy Gonzalez

    Speedy Gonzalez Xtreme Notebook Speeder!

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    is on your way :D
     
  13. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Lol, I have a feeling it will get lost in the post
     
  14. Mandrake

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    Looking good. Always nice to see a 54K CPU score, physx or not. ;)
     
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    It is about 25k without physx, still great lol

    So you looking at getting one of these Mandrake?
     
  16. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    No, I've turn my play money over to another hobby. I'm going to wait until Sandy Bridge before making another change.
     
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    bwebcoder Notebook Guru

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    Ok you got me placed my order we will see if this thing runns

    specs

    Display 17.3" Full HD LED Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
    Zero Dead Pixel Insurance Guaranteed no dead or partially-lit pixels for first 30 days of purchasing [$100.00]
    Video & Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 480M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory
    CPU Processor Intel® Core™ i7-980X Processor Extreme Edition ( 12MB L3 Cache, 3.33GHz, 6.4GT/sec QPI, 6 Cores ) [$815.00]
    Thermal Compound Stock Standard Thermal Compound
    Operating System Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition ( 64-Bit Preloaded )
    Memory 6GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 3 X 2GB
    RAID Storage Options Non-RAID Storage
    Primary Hard Disk Drive 160GB Intel SATA2 Solid State Disk Drive [$455.00]
    2nd Hard Disk Drive 160GB Intel SATA2 Solid State Secondary Disk Drive [$510.00]
    Optical Drive 6X BD-R Blu-ray Burner/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software [$215.00]
    Wireless Network Card Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
    Bluetooth Internal Bluetooth V2.1 Module
    Primary Battery Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
    Integrated Security Device Fingerprint Reader
    Microsoft Office New! Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included in Price
    Warranty Sager 3 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty [$269.00]
    Carrying Bag Standard Carrying Bag

    5.7k


    I will OC this the highest on the forums let the games begin
     
  18. cookinwitdiesel

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    I would think with those specs you should be more than happy. It sounds like that will be as close to happy as any laptop is ever going to get you ;)
     
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    I resent that! I am crazy and I still think this machine is good.

    However the way I see it:
    [Rant =]
    Something tells me in 4-5 months they will be changing motherboards due to sandy bridge. The switch to I7 was almost instant on the D900 series. It looks like its a long time away but until reviews come out on this thing and people (like the good folks on the notebookreview forums) test this system enough for people like me (Laptop hypochondriac) to be confident it won't have any serious problems (it's been out for 2 days now and there is some debate on the audio quality already) it will be almost time for the sandy bridge switch. Add to this the fact that if this system will be used for gaming...most anticipated games will come out early next year.

    Bottom line, powerful as it may be, it arrived a bit late into the game. [/RANT]
     
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    I would wait and see if SB will even be a significant upgrade first. You will probably be able to get a year easy from this laptop before feeling any pressure to upgrade (except maybe gpus)
     
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    Sandy bridge may not bring all you think it will. I have my doubts about sandy bridge. Intel seems to be moving towards efficient and not powerful chips in the future.

    Also what games are you expecting next yr ?

    black ops and medal of honor are all up in next few months. I am unaware of any big games early nest year.
     
  22. vzachari

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    About sandy bridge: We shall see once its out. I just don't like the idea of getting stuck with no upgrade-ability options for this system after 4 months of use. I upgraded the hell out of my D901F.

    Games:
    Deus ex 3,
    Crysis 2,
    Dead space 2
    Fear 3

    All these should be arriving by March 2011.
     
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    The socket is going EOL but there will still be at least the 990x and some juicy xeon options as well. The GPUs will obviously be long upgradeable, MXM 3 is only a year old (although it seems like a year that went quick)
     
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    All those games save for Crysis 2 will run amazing on one card because they will ALL be console ports...

    Your CPU is going to have almost 0 bearing on how well those games run either ...

    All these games are GPU bound with the CPU having little effect overall..

    Nothing in the mobility line of CPU is going to even come close to what the X7200 has now for a CPU ..

    If you could keep upgrading the cards in this machine for the next few years heck you would never need a new machine at all...
     
  25. hottestzephyr

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    i7 990x will be the most powerful cpu for intel till 3H 2011 so don't worry about eol of this chipset.
     
  26. cookinwitdiesel

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    Crysis 2 will also be a console port unless they develop the game twice, once for each platform. But it is definitely coming out on console and is also based in a city (MUCH less of the vegetation that did a big part in making Crysis 1 demanding)
     
  27. cookinwitdiesel

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    But after the 990x there will probably not be any new top-end cpus. Also up for trying out will be the xeon x5690 (same as the 990x but binned differently - still good - and locked multi)
     
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    Yeah but Crysis 2 "should" still be a little more cutting edge on the PC then those other titles but either way it is a console port to a degree..

    I have no issues running anything on my G73 save for a couple titles IE metro2033 and Crysis maxed out , if i need the big guns i just jump on my desktop ;)..
     
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    I could probably run all the games I mentioned on my m11x. The point is when I upgrade I want to do so at a time when I will utilize it the most. If I wait 4 months I can still get the exact same price on the x7200 that I will get now with prolly a bit better options (like gtx 485) and have a bunch of new games out that I can fool around with.

    Also I am a bit reluctant on the upgrade ability of the GPU. My first large and heavy laptop was the d901c with dual 7950gtx and we were promised that they would be upgradeable. Come the 8800gtx the d901c required a change of motherboard to accept this cards even though they had the same MXM module as the 7950gtx. I don't want to fall in that trap again.

    CPU wise it doesn't much matter its true but what's the point of having last gen CPU + chipset when sandy bridge will last at least a couple of years (Cross fingers).
     
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    Im curios as to what magic you think Sandy Bridge is going to bring ?... I know your saying last gen but as far as im concerned the X58 chipset absolutely trashes any of the mobile offerings so for a laptop this is about as good as its going to get ...

    If you were looking for integrated GPUs on the CPU for say battery life then yeah but this machine is not the portable type by any stretch :)..

    As for GPU upgrades this machine can handle anything that is coming for sometime because of the 480s and there power needs... They might change to a different Mxm though at somepoint ...

    Either way i hope you find what your looking for ...
     
  31. physib

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    I will get it mainly for Optimus. I know this notebook is not supposed to be portable, but one more hour is always not a bad thing right?

    And the fact that it's more efficient.

    But as I said in this thread, Nvidia is also cranking out new gears... well.
     
  32. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Yes I totally agree. I feel that this model has the potential for more longevity for power and speed users than anything else out there right now. It will be well into 2011 before Sandy Bridge brings out something that may compete with the 990x.
    BTW, if you have big hands like me you can pick this laptop up and carry it around ok.... :D
     
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    A few posts in here seem to think sandy bridge is new so its faster. Its more efficient not realy faster. better battery life lower power gpu / cpu intergration no sandy bridge mobile will stick with a 980 IMO

    You better watch out for bulldozer amd might shock you all
     
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    Was it confirmed that Sandy Bridge was even going to end up in this machine ? Seems like something more for the successors to the 8690/8760/X8100 and not this machine...

    I have already seen the Sandy line up and while its better then whats out there i just am not seeing how it even remotely compares to these desktop CPUs ...

    I think if your looking for Sandy Bridge you are looking at the wrong machine altogether honestly...

    This is Clevo's Warhorse laptop and they are the only ones now putting a desktop CPU in a laptop so i think they will stick to this formula for this Rig...
     
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    Agree agree sandy bridge does not even support dx11 .

    NVIDIA is unimpressed, saying that “Sandy Bridge” is a “turboprop in an age of jet engines.”

    could not agree more sandy bridge talk needs to be moved to portable laptops not desktop replacements.
     
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    sandy bridge is not a graphics card, and not by nvidia, it's intel's next CPU lineup.
     
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    This laptop might be short-lived like M980NU and get refreshed with sandy bridge desktop cpu when it's released.
     
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    My company was at IDF. I know alot more about this than you. Google you will see sandy bridge is intels gpu . cpu solution as well as 10 cores but we are talking sanddy bridge early 2011 so we are talking cpu/gpu and a I think intel may be pulling a trick of charges extra to unlock features.

    We get all the new info I work for a major motion picture animation studio.
    I am lead animator so I know you have all watched my work :p
     
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    when it comes out sandy bridge is not going to even be in the performance segment, it is going to be mainstream stuff

    the 1366 bloomfield and gulftown parts are safe for at least 6 months
     
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    It's still not a graphics card, it's just an integrated graphics card for mainstream and low end consumers, just like how i5 and i3 has integrated graphics card, the performance is not even in the same category as nvidia/ati performance graphics cards. And we are talking about the sandy bridge CPU here.
     
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    -_-


    SB is a GPU/CPU in one not strictly a GPU, and SB was never meant for a serious GPU solution, but Ivy Bridge will be in the far future. No one will be buying SB for a pure IGP solution, even Intel recognizes this.

    SB, at least IMO was directly aimed at and designed for notebooks. The very top of line SB will be indeed faster then a 920xm with the 2600k; but in general its being developed to make TDP, battery life and obtain stock speeds of high end quad cores at a low watt output.

    TL;DR, no one will be buying SB for GPU support as AMD/Nvidia will still hold a stranglehold on the GPU market, 2012/2013 Intel could make a serious foray into the GPU market. MAN that was alot of acronyms, but I'm too lazy to have typed out the full words of most of that :p
     
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    I don't think anyone versed in SB thinks its going to be a Nehalem killer. It's directed toward efficiency which is beneficial for battery life and heat while retaining the performance of the current i7 CPU's....

    The GPU on SB shouldn't be taken seriously and won't, lack of DX11 support on its integrated GPU won't matter because AMD/Nvidia will take care of it on SB anyway.
     
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    I know its not a graphics card. Its cpu that is built for efficiency not power and it has an intergrated gpu.

    But you cant talk SB without talking gpu. Its optimus on steriods.
    I don't think you realize intel is going after nvidia and this is the begining.

    If you want a powrful portable laptop wait for sandy bridge but if your buying a beast like the clevo 7200 it will rip sandy bridge head off until westmere 10 core.
     
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    I do realize that Intel is looking kill Nvidia, I just said it in the top post I made.

    I still don't recognize the significance of all this CPU talk when it comes to gaming, it makes no difference if it's a desktop CPU. Even a mobile i7 920xm will hold up for two years minimum with todays current processing stagnation of console ports.
     
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    I agree with you completely. I also agree CPU talk is crazy for gaming but alot of people buy these for 3d , video encoding etc. I use it for all 3.

    I am only replying to a few posts that say I am waiting for sandy bridge and to me thats not a good idea. If your waiting for the next best thing goodluck cause you will be chasing it forever.

    Yes wait for sandy bridge , wait for 485m , or 6000 AMD just crazy talk. this laptop will run all games for at least 2 - 3 yrs BUY NOW
     
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    It's a good idea of you hold a dual core right now.... other then that anyone who owns either a mobile i7 or a desktop CPU VIA the D900F or the x7200 shouldn't be the least bit concerned about SB unless there's throttling :p

    It's about discipline on when to buy overall, people shouldnt buy something new every year, scale it down to to every two years or three years and you'll never feel sorry you did. Don't tell the economists, resellers and benchmarkers I said that BTW.
     
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    I still dont understand why people would speculate that Sandy will end up in this machine as to me thats just nonsense..

    People want this machine for the raw horsepower also of the CPU and not just the GPUs.. Clevo will stuff Sandy into the X8100 etc for people that want it ...

    This machine has more then a single purpose of gaming and this is truly a DTR more so then any other laptop out there and i cant see Clevo jumping from this idea just to put in weaker CPUs that have intergrated GPUs ... How and in what way will it benefit this machine ?? It will make it slower overall lol.. Oh thats right you will gain an extra hour battery life... Yeah thats a good reason to retool an entire machine lol...
     
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    I meant the 8 core sandy bridge B2 desktop version.
     
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