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    X7200 Pre-sale price is here!

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by AndrewKW, May 30, 2010.

  1. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I think you safely say starting prices will be under $2,500 US all the way up to...??? :eek:
     
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    One 480M + i7 930 should be around D900F prices, maybe 2500-2800 range. Then if you upgrade all those 120hz/RGBLED screen, SLI 480M, 980X etc..... :eek:

    Should be much cheaper if 5870MR CF is customized instead though.
     
  3. freedom16

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    Yup it will, but in my opinion better to stick with ati but i believe you guys said it will launch with only Nvidia, i would love to have a 120HZ RGBLED screen, most awesome and powerful gaming machine ever, direct attack to alienware! Its the same weight as the m17x too and i believe thickness.
     
  4. Geforce2go

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    Here is a price comparison between a similar config Clevo W880CU, and Clevo D900F:

    Clevo W880CU
    Kabolt G875 Black/Silver

    17.3” 1920x1080 Full HD+ X-Glass
    Intel® Core™ i7 720QM Quad Core with HT 1.60GHz – 2.80Ghz 6MB Cache
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 480M 2GB GDDR5 DX11
    4GB DDR3 1333Mhz CAS9 2x 2GB DIMMs
    320GB 7,200rpm SATA-II with 16MB Cache
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Blu-Ray ROM/DVD±R/W
    3 Year – European Collect & Return
    30 Day Zero Dead Pixel Guarantee
    Cyberlink Power DVD 9 Ultra with full BluRay support

    £2146.07 inc VAT excl. Del. = 3,112.12 USD
    £1826.44 Excl. VAT

    Clevo D900F
    Sager NP9285

    17" Wide Viewing Angles WUXGA LCD with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1200)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 480M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 Video Memory
    Intel® Core™ i7-930 Processor ( 8MB L3 Cache, 2.80GHz, 4.8GT/sec QPI )
    IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
    6GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 3 X 2GB
    320GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
    4X Blu-ray Reader/8X DVD±R/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
    Sager 3 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

    $3,278.00 = 2,258.90 GBP

    Similar Eurocom x7200 Config = $3672.00
     
  5. f4ding

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    ??? The kabolt is obviously a different machine from the D900F.
     
  6. Geforce2go

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    It was just to show what sort of spec you can get for around the $3000 price range. Although I didn't give the spec of the D900F Eurocom x7200 it is basically the same config as the D900F Sager NP9285 but about $400 more.
     
  7. Aikimox

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    You should compare the Sager's and Eurocom's D900F to have an idea of their pricing differences. Last time I checked, D900F was about 400-500$ more expensive @Eurocom. So, when the X7200 is available, it will probably cost 1k less @ ExoticPC than @Eurocom. Keep in mind, that Eurocom is a Canadian reseller and their prices can't be as low as in the US due to higher import taxes, etc.
    Plus, if you order from Canada, keep in mind the customs ;)
     
  8. anexanhume

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    With dual card configurations? The x8100 is not available at any reseller I know of with single card configs. I assumed it would be the same with the x7200.
     
  9. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    It's still too early to get confirmed pricing. A basic SLI nVidia GeForce GTX 480M x7200 your probably looking at around $3,200 US (this with a 930 i7, and 6GB memory). Maybe a little less or more. It's fun to guess though... :D
     
  10. Aikimox

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    I think that's a correct guess, Babyhemi.
    Add the 3D screen, 3xHDDs, OS and you're hitting a 4k before taxes :eek: :swoon:
     
  11. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    3k for a single gpu setup with the w880cu AND the 16:9 screen? What a rip. the X7200 is the way to go imo, unless the w880cu prices get cut down.
     
  13. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The W880CU is less than 2K. Where do you get 3K?
     
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    I think he is referring to Geforce2go's post, but there are some unnecessary options in this config, like Blu-Ray and Dead pixel guarantee.

     
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    Yup^^^, though both have BluRay our dead pixel adds quite a lot onto the cost - would be fairer to compare our G875 (W880CU) with our Comanche (D900F), both with GTX 480M. Also you have to always work USD to GBP ex VAT and vice versa so technically the G875 specced up costs:

    £2146.07 inc VAT excl. Del. (does not = 3,112.12 USD) but
    £1826.44 Excl. VAT does = 2,648.34 USD
     
  16. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Not much different but here is a little info from HERE translated below of course... :)

    "X7200: 17.3-inch models, the screen resolution of 1920 × 1080 or 1600 × 900, Direct diversion from the internal configuration of the desktop Intel X58 LGA1366 platform. Maximum optional six-core processor Core i7-980X Extreme, 3 three-channel SO-DIMM memory slots support up DDR3-1600, 2.5-inch hard drive for up to three models, and can set up RAID 0/1/5 disk array, optional built-in BD drive, external well two USB 3.0 interfaces.
    This provides a desktop-replacement notebook 2 MXM 3.0 Type B slots to install two SLI GTX 480M in system formation. According to the site the card has 352 stream processors, core clock 425MHz, Stream processor frequency 850MHz, equipped with 256-bit 2GB GDDR5 memory, the equivalent frequency of 2400MHz, the driver version is 257.26."



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  17. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Those are some nice Pics ... You can clearly see compared to that original shot where the machine looked 4 inches thick that its really not that big at all...
     
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    Hmm according to that site, the X7200 is only going to be 5.3kg (10.6lb), even lighter than X8100 which is 11.2lb.

    Also, it will be sold in mid of July.

    It was also said that the 3dmark for single GPU is almost 17k, while using dual GPU it's only 18k, it seems that the driver is not making use of the 2nd GPU yet. Also, the CPU of the test model is an i7 930.
     
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    I knew it mid july, even a single gtx480 is going to be a pretty amazing card but being only getting 18 thousand in sli is kinda sad but everyone must remember its just early to see true benchmark results though. An i7980X is going to be the king of everything on this machine and own everyone elses and at least be better looking this time too lol. Nice to see some new pics of it, looks very good, i can't wait for video reviews of it. Seems like everything is on schedule with the manufacturers and refreshes and newer machines.
     
  20. treysoucie

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    has anyone heard word on any kind of Overclocking options in bios? guess its a bit early for that, and given clevo's history on the matter we are gonna be let down in this department.
     
  21. CyPsychotic

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    it seems that they dropped xfire support. Not one site that mentions the x7200 talks about the 5870s, only the 480s. Pity. It would also help bring down the price for those of us that want a new laptop but don't want to pay half the laptop cost for SLI 480s
     
  22. anothergeek

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    A 5870 retails for $350 on RJtech, I'd bet the 480M will be $650-700 when it's available off the shelf. Far as price/per performance goes, Sli 480M is a waste with 5870's available. Why? It's an excess of memory bandwith for "only" 1080p, and the 480M is clocked too low to really show an advantage over CF 5870's.

    But if you're interested in a single GPU model like the W880CU, the 480M begins to make more sense. Why? 128-bit alone from a 5870 wouldn't quite satisfy the need for 1080p gaming. The 256-bit interface on the 480M makes a sizeable difference, when comparing 1v1.

    To summarize, a single 5870 is good, but a single 480M will be a lot better, dual 5870 is fantastic, and dual 480M is a waste.
     
  23. kaltmond

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    But if X7200 didn´t support CF , then SLi is the only option for xtreme performance...
     
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    Well, the X7200 has a 120hz refresh rate screen, so I'm sure a 480M SLI would be needed to power it reasonably.
     
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    richy creations Notebook Enthusiast

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    stumbled across this, might have been already posted, has different processor options compared to eurocom

    Google Translate

    dont know why default's it from jap to english. but just switch the jap to french and hit translate :)
     
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    yeah that 120HZ screen is going to be awesome, but probably be offered in the same G73W screen. Anyway a single 5870 can be killed by a gtx 480 and that's where its good to have that card for being a single gpu. But looks like nvidia so time for an extreme performance ultimate workstation this is.
     
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    Wow this thread went dead fast!
     
  28. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    Nothing really new to add to this thread. Now in 6 weeks or so we should have some concrete things to say... :)
     
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    6 weeks is a long time. I was hoping 2 weeks at most.
     
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    They're saying this won't appear till late July early August at the EARLIEST. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't see light of day until September. I just with they would release some concrete pricing.
     
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    And then from September till Sandy is not so long and far. ;)
     
  32. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The first phase of Sandy will not be high end. Not until Q2 2011 will we see the REAL Sandy stuff... ;)
     
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    ComputerBase.de got the vibe at Computex that Southern Islands might not be all that far after September either.
     
  34. Aikimox

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    @ Phinagle,
    you should change your status name from virtuoso to notebook Prophet or DoomSayer, lol.

    Good new everyone! Wait, these are not good new at all,.. for Nvidia.
    Not only this means that we shall have another MXM3.0b card to fit the current beasts, also this means we could get a really huge boost in performance, and lower prices ;)
    Honestly, this 480M is a marauder card in term of its cost.
    I'd somehow agree to 800$ per a Quadro variant... but this is a daylight robbery.
     
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    Yeah, it kinda reminds me of the story with the 9800M GTX. That card was just as expensive ($750 a piece). Then the 4870MR came along and bam Nvidia brought the 280M at $500.
     
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    Would be so nice, if ATI releases a much superior GPU this year, and at half the price. I guess I'll be holding out for the red team's response.

    I want Nvidia hardware, but the cost irks me deeply.
     
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    5870 CF pulled due to unresolved technical issues, and unreliable supply.

    There is a reason nVIDIA costs more :)
     
  38. _Josh

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    It is quite obvious that 90% of the users here realize that a $4000 laptop stands no chance against a $4000 or even less expensive desktop. Trying to bring about any form of competitive comparison between them is both silly and instigating.

    Sigh, trolls.
     
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    Really? I wasn't really impressed with that troll attempt. It was weak and he could have put a lot more effort into it.

    Back to the topic at hand, I'm actually quite disappointed to hear the X7200 will not be equipped with dual 5870's. They not only would have gave impressive performance, but would also make the over all price more palatable. I'm guessing Nvidia arranged some sort of "exclusivity" deal with Clevo so that Nvidia can actually sell some GPU's on that platform, rather than having to fight tooth and nail with ATI which would be pretty hard to do given the price points.
     
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    I was being sarcastic ;)

    I think the x7200 will be a nice alternative to the M17x though, for dual gpu notebook enthusiasts.
     
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    It's ComputerBase.de's information not mine....just because I brought it to your attention doesn't mean I'm hooked on their feeling. ;)

    Saying "Autumn" isn't the same as saying September...there's a couple of more months involved. And saying we'll see Southern Islands doesn't mean we'll be able to buy notebooks with them.

    Odds are we'll see desktop cards first, that we'll be able to start buying for the Holidays, then some mobile cards, that we'll be able to buy in early 2011. Blackcomb I can't expect to launch until 2011 (because that's what the rumors say ;)) and that's the ATI GPU that matters most to Clevo and (non-M11x)AW users.

    If Blackcomb gets launched at CES 2011 I'd expect to see it in an ASUS by Spring and an AW/Clevo by late Spring early Summer....or just push each seasons one later if Blackcomb comes at CeBit 2011.
     
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    Let's get back on topic guys. I had to delete a bunch of posts already.
     
  44. Aikimox

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    Some of them were important :eek:
    But I guess you're right.

    Anyway, X7200 is still totally unavailable.
    I wonder what was the point of showing it on their website and then removing it in a few days... :confused:
     
  45. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I think it was because of COMPUTEX...
     
  46. ryukenden

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    But what did they say at computex differs from what we heard before? They hardly give us any info.
     
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    or maybe the resellers complained that they need to sell their D900F barebones first, or at least 90% of their stock. make sense? with x7200 around with starting price close to D900F, D900F will take forever to sell. for example look at avadirect, they still have the D901C. it takes forever to sell coz D900F is here already. i wanna buy a D901C before but with that price tag, i better pass. oh well, i won't buy the x7200 anytime soon anyway. and have to save money AGAIN to buy the x7200. :(
     
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    Yeah i hear ya but i might just get e a D900F eventually but that does make sense. Its always like that too get rid of the stock, some places like powernotebooks still does sell the D901C. Clevo needs to stop being so secretive like apple, hate to say the word but that's the only way to compare to something like that..
     
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    Well, unless Clevo takes back the unsold barebones, it does make sense to be secretive. This protects their resellers. Their market isn't as big as the, well, big players. So they have to do what they have to do to stay alive.
     
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    Yeah i do agree, even though their innovations are quite nice and amazing, still the only company to do desktop processors in laptops. They do have amazing cooling though. Wish they were a big bigger though.
     
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