Xoticpc copper cooling upgrade?

+1 rep for you. Granted, such modifications would not be covered under warranty (unless your reseller said otherwise). I am still impressed with the work put into this.

Given the amount of work you have put into this and that you did factor in that you would need a way to remove the heat from the added heatsinks and the splicing job you have done so far to make the fans work, well I am glad to see people are able to figure out how to mod a laptop to this extent.

I did see that you had plans to also set up a PCB with the fan wires so you could have an external controller. We can't wait to see it.

 

oh wait here this is the fan to get, it fits prefectly in the ram slot. 1pcs Ultra quiet 4010S ( 50x40x10mm) 12V Brushless DC Cooling Blower Fan | eBay

 

the only modding i did is to the component bay cover, and i can order a new one of those so im still covered under warranty. i can remove everything that i did in less than 5 minutes, and return it back to factory condition.

 

I apologize, I did not know. I am still impressed with what you have done though.

 

well it would be stupid to void my warranty just to gain some extra cooling.

 

I wanted to get the copper cooling but I was on a tight budget.
the ic diamond will have to for now..

 

just do both yourself for less than 20 bucks.

 

Here is another place selling the small fans. I've never dealt with them but they are relatively cheap at $3.49 per fan so it's not a huge risk.

 

Why does it have to be a Aluminum or Copper tape? I plan to use a special tape designed for up 600 degrees. It seems to be neither copper nor aluminum though. The majority of copper and aluminum tapes I have are rated for under 100C and you risk the tape coming of and shorting out the board if used.

 

I bought some flue tape, which is actually aluminum, and good to 315C or 600F. But yeah I was thinking about it with contact with the mobo, could be problematic. Although what tape is good to 600C that's not metal? I guess you could go with some sort of fiberglass tape like this: http://www.amazon.com/CS-Hyde-Temperature-Fiberglass-Silicone/dp/B000REGUBM

 

Any method that provides a good seal for the air gaps should suffice.

However, an outstanding cooling improvement mechanism that remains to be tested is: To what extent does thermally coupling the the GPU & VRAM radiators and fan metal cover together actually contribute to total gain in cooling? The contribution may be sufficient to justify the use of materials that provide maximum thermal coupling between these three components whilst providing a good air seal.

Tape peeling overtime sounds like a possibility. High temperature materials should probably be used, but I doubt except for extreme scenarios (choking air supply or fan failure) that the temperatures would reach close to 100°C where the tape contacts the radiator. In any case, I think it would be a good idea to do a full loop with the tape to reduce chances of detachment and seal everything properly.

Aside from thermally conductive tape, maybe using copper braid straps over the airgaps and overlaying with non-thermally conductive high-temperature tape to seal and hold everything together would yield better overall results?

 

I considered using a high temp electrical tape on top of the aluminum...

 

the aluminum tape i picked up at lowes was rated to well over 100C. i think it was 138 or something. im not too concerned

 

That's about the same I bought from Home Depot and I'm not concerned either. If your temps are above 138 around the radiator where the tape is at, you have more important issues to worry about than the aluminum tape specs.

 

anyone from Xoticpc can explain whats included in this mod so others who already own laptop can do this to?

 

ok well my copper tape is finally being shipped out to me, and the company is based in california, so it should get here either on saturday or monday if they used usps.

 

Congrats, I look forward to what the temps look like afterwards.

 

Hello !

It's very interesting !
Could you sa, how and where did you connected your fans ?
I think you can connect it to the msata's supply
And the next to a USB port

 

yes im actually going to print a pcb, maybe ill do that today, that will fit in that slot thats meant for a 3g card in my machine and an msata in yours, it has usb integrated into it too, so maybe ill make it so i can stick my nano receiver into it and have it internal, and draw power from there for the fans as well. or i could make a splitter for the fan, so it runs at the same power as the gpu fan. right now i have a little usb coming out the back which i hook into a spare usb port.

 

ok well i cant print double sided pcb's so i figured out that the notepal u3 uses the same connectors for the fans as the ones inside my notebook so i used them to make, as many people call it, a fan cable splitter. so i just soldered up my notepal 3 to be max fans all the time, which is still fairly quite, but it has better airflow now.

Then i made the splitter, which has a male and female end and it connects the two extra fans into it as well, so now the two mini blowers are controlled by the main blower and when i press fn+1 it maxes the extra blowers with the main blower, and since i use massive cans while gaming the noise doesnt bother me.

 

I see you are into 7.1 gaming headset I was gonna get the Razer Tiamat 7.1 but it was out of stock like most of the time since March and now I totally forgot about it . Been using the TurtleBeach Z6A 5.1 headset with my P150EM tho.

 

i wish it was 7.1, its an ax pro which is only 5.1 unfortunately and i cant use the microphone at the same time as the rear speakers, but i have a bluetooth headset and im just going to integrate it into the headset, then it should work nicely.

 

you have connected your fans to GPU's 3 pin connexion ?

Do you know what is the GPU's and CPU's fan voltage and amperage ?

What is your fan's Voltage and amperage ?

Be carefull abount that, coz you can kill your MB

 

I install alu radiators but did not notice any difference
now waiting for fans

how much these little fans lower gpu temp?

 

the most important is the fan's voltage and amperage !

 

additional heatsink will not make any difference unless you have air blowing across them. you need at least a decent notebook cooler to notice any difference

 

Well if you make sure the little fans have proper intakes and exaust then on your machine i would say it should drop at least 4 or 5 degrees if your hovering around 90c. What i noticed is that having these fans made the main fan run at a lower setting, so unless you have some way of getting fn+1 to max the fans this may or may not do much good. Im not really recommending doing this to your machine because its sort of loud and if done wrong will void your warranty. But if you do want to do this then order an extra component bay cover from your reseller.

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I have this add-on included in my order but after reading this thread I think i'll save myself nearly $80 and have it removed. :/

Doesn't seem like anybody has had it done by XoticPC yet and has any photos of what they actually did to improve the cooling.

 

Copper tape and Aluminium tape are the best.

Adhesive tape doesn't really do much not versus the two above that is

 

I wasn't sure whether to choose the IC Diamond and the Copper cooling upgrades for the XPC laptops but now that I've read through this thread, I'll just buy the stuff online and apply them myself instead of spending an extra $114. Many thanks for the info!

 

So, I read the first couple of pages in this thread and this last page, is applying these heatsinks even worth it? It looks like it turns out to look really ugly from the couple of pictures I've seen, and without additional fans it won't make much of a difference?

 

it makes a huge difference with a notebook cooler. shaved about 4C off my temps. if you care about what the inside of your laptop looks like your priorities are in all the wrong places IMHO

 

Oh, no I don't care about the inside at all, I was just trying to say it doesn't seem to bring any benefit without also installing additional fans (a notebook cooler would be better, I agree), besides making it look ugly.

 

Many thanks for this helpful thread. I was curious as to the benefits of this addon.

 

I just got some copper heatsinks ( Amazon.com: Cosmos ® 8 PCS Copper VGA RAM Cooling Heatsinks cooler + Cosmos Cable Tie: Computers & Accessories), and it appears that they have an adhesive backing (covered by paper).

My question is: is the adhesive "reliable"? The last thing I want is the adhesive getting loose and having copper heatsinks short out my $2000 laptop.

 

Have you got the Amazon.com: ArctiClean 60ml Kit (includes 30ml ArctiClean 1 and 30ml ArctiClean 2): Electronics kit? If yes then use it to clean the surface where you want to place the heatsinks.
- If not, then use some alcohol of some sort to clean the area.

And yes they stick very well, even without the area being cleaned, bought 2 packs of them last month, great stuff ^^

 

My apologies for reviving an older thread - I was aiming to keep things reverent!

I saw the official photos from Xotic PC and it does seem to match the user photos here in terms of application. It seems to me something I could do myself then, and much more affordably. My concern is whether or not this voids the warranty for you guys? I have horrible luck with technology and don't feel safe without a warranty. Thank you.

 

Appying copper heatsinks does not void warranty (at least not for Clevo's)

 

Thank you very much! It was for a Sager which I was wondering, which I believe are Clevos.

 

Sager computers are built off a Clevo, if yours is a "Sager" then you're fine to do the add on yourself without voiding the warranty. If its another brand built off a Clevo then you'll want to check with them to see what their warranty conditions are.

 

Nice posts. Good to see that additional copper heatsinks can be added even after I purchase a laptop.

 

And for cheaper

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What do you guys think about using the mSATA area for custom heatsinks? My laptop is still being assembled so I cant check it out yet

 

As with any heatsink you have to think about airflow, where is cool air coming in AND where are you getting rid of it, are you heating air that's already being used by something else? How can you get heat from other areas to the one you want to use?

 

The movement of air flow is where I am a bit stumped. My current idea, is to use an aluminium pipe going from the GPU to the mSATA heat sink, and use it more as a way to slow down reaching max temp, give the radiator more time to cool down.

 

Adding a heat store wont help you while gaming, your cooling output at maximum temperature is fixed unless you add more dissipation out of the system.

 

I could install a small vent over the mSATA and make a custom laptop cooler with a fan over it. Think that will work?

 

So you draw air in from outside the case, heat it and then push it where?

 

Hmmm, this brainstorming would be easier if I had my laptop so I could map it out. Depending on the location of the two, about about the negative pressure applied via the GPU fan and the positive pressure from the laptop cooling pad fan, would that be enough force to cause air to circulate internally?

 

Ah but you are heating the air that's being drawn to cool the GPU therefore causing the GPU to run hotter in the long run.....