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1) 2 - 5 mins should give you a clear picture if your temps are fine or not. On my system, usually after 1:30 mins the temps go crazy high so if you pass that you're good

2) Power Limits are not only in Power Limit 1 and 2, you have 1,2, 3, 4 and also.....










Divide the value in the BIOS by 4, then you get the value which appears in XTU

So in my case, 480/4 = 120A

 

Ok so that only worked when I selected stress CPU ONLY in Aida. If I choose to stress CPU, fpu + cache at the same time my temps Instantly hit 95c wtf

My CPU IA cores seem to be the issue as far as I can see as they instantly hit 95-97 with all check boxes stressed in Aida.

 

What is your Cache Ratio in BIOS? Leave it at 0 (means default which is 41X)

Also, what is your voltage for CPU Cache? you need a negative offset of -80 to -110 mV for both the Core/Cache, they must be the same for Skylake CPUs

 

My cache ratio is that the ring ratio? If so it's at -115mv and ratio is set to Min 0 and Max 0 too

 

Right, Cache Ratio is Ring

The Ring/CPU voltage have to be the same for Skylake CPUs as they are tied.

What is your CPU voltage offset? you have to find a sweet spot for a stable negative offset. For me, that sweet spot for 4.4 GHz is -115 mV for both but my CPU is delidded mind you

 

My ring and CPU are both set to the same offset of -115mv and the ring/cache is set to stock or 0 in BIOS (which ends up running at 41x) my CPU core max OC ratio is set to 44.

 

That sounds right. I would suggest 2 things:

1) Either delid your CPU

or

2) Buy an already delidded Silicon Lottery binned CPU that is guaranteed to be a good overclocker:

https://siliconlottery.com/products/6700k49g

Although I prefer you go with option 1 as you don't need to spend any money, it will only void your CPU warranty

You have a bad overclocking CPU just like me.

 

@MartinMac1982

BTW, what thermal paste you have on your CPU?

 

Yeah i figured as much. I got the liquid ultra from cool labs.

 

that means you already have the best and have pushed the CPU as far as possible.

Either run it @ 4.2 GHz on all cores or just buy that Silicon Lottery one

 

Yep well I'm gonna try to get my chip stable at 4.3gig then leave it there until I can afford to buy a silicon lottery chip.

 

About this thing of CPU and ring having the voltages...

My CPU is at adaptive -110mv for a 4.4ghz. Ring is at -150mv at x0. If I set the ring to -110mv, its not stable at 4.4, and I'm not sure at 4.3 and the performance gain is negligible.

So I just let the ring at -150mv and at x0 and its working fine...

 

Soo I'm pretty sure this is not normal but anyone got any idea why I can barely run the division smoothly on my SLI 980m rig with details set to anything other than low and at 1080p. It's a stutter fest at 4k

 

That's what I did as well and it worked better, although this article and a dude on these forums suggested otherwise. I don't know what to make of this, one guy/site say they are tied, so theoretically, it wouldn't have any effect if the Cache Ratio voltage was diff. than the Core, but it does make a diff. it seems:

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-6700k-cache-overclocking-with-ddr4-3600-mhz-memory_170577

 

That's why I sold my P870DM-G which had Dual 980M SLI and went for the same system but with a desktop class 980 GTX. I am done with SLI BS and microstuttering and bad SLI driver support from nVIDIA

Please sell your 980M SLI and upgrade to a 980 GTX (Desktop Class)

Additionally, I would never get a 4K screen on a laptop, more taxing on the GPU, DPI Scaling on Windows sucks, and if not scaled, things look super tiny. It's a big fail IMHO

just my 2 cents worth

How does anyone in his right mind buy a 4K screen laptop?

 

Better to use the external 4k tv instead.

 

Unless 980 is not enough for you.
Which it is in my case. 980m SLI overclock barely gives me what I want, a single 980 would not be enough period.

 

Look at you guys, and here i am playing only CSGO and DOTA2.

 

980M SLI is great *when it works*

 

In this case I figured our what the issue was, it was something to do with the drivers , I have no issue running my games at 1080p on my laptop, but wanted the 4 K scree. For potential future GPU upgrades... Since using ddu to uninstall the driver and do a clean install to latest drivers I now get a solid 60fps with the division and Rise of the tomb Raider.

 

My GTX 980 KINGPINs had a weird issue with the LEDs and also with the classy voltage tool so I returned them.

I prefer two of the fastest cards over a single card but I'd take a single fast card over two slower cards that perform better:

ex: Titan X over 970 SLI even though 970 SLI would be faster.

 

I would agree but a single 980 really isnt a lot of muscle. A GM200 on mobile would make this so much easier.

 

Wish they would make a Titan X for the laptops....Let's see what Pascal has in store for us. If it isn't compatible with the P870DM I will buy a barebone new laptop that has a Pascal GPU and toss in all my current hardware from this laptop in it.

 

I would imagine p870dm to be the few laptop that would support it if it is not a wide spread support.

 

btw. found to solution to why it wont let you flash.

 

For those of you who are interested, The Nvidia CEO is giving a presentation rumored to be on gpu's at http://www.gputechconf.com/ on Tuesday April the 5th. It's speculated that they are going to unveil something to do with Pascal (even if its not a mobile or the highest end desktop part should still be interesting) , their keynotes are usually stream-able too!

 

First attempt at stabilizing the temps @ 4.2 Ghz , -150mV
This is after 15 mins of AIDA64 , with the system siting in my lap in bed and the fans on automatic.
Ill probably need to bug someone to ask about some of the settings in the Prema BIOS. (an angel gave me access @Phoenix ) , any volunteers?

 

After testing some voltages during weekends, I am thinking that static voltage, even though voltage is fluctuating, is more stable than dynamic voltage.

Now I am using [email protected] with static 1.2041v with offset 0.
I can do anything and nothing will crash my laptop with this voltage.

 

My settings are in post 1 of this thread, both for 4.2x4 and 4.4x4

 

Yeah i saw those, temps kinda seemed high for 4.2 Ghz. Maybe your ambient was high? But yeah ill give those a shot.

 

those are juts a starting point, tweak accordingly

 

Anybody got any idea what setting caused the machine to lower its core clocks when under load as opposed to idle. When Idle HWinfo reports my machine as running all 4 cores at 4.3 Ghz (which is what I've set it to) and as sooon as i start aida it reduces to 3.9Ghz, temps are great though so If i can figure this out ill be good to go. core voltage is set to -150mv and multiplier is set to x43 (i tried Pheonix's settings but temps were way too hot)

I'm finding that if I adjust the power limits too high my temps get too hot, but cant figure out the right balance for my machine between temps/power limits.

Thanks in advance.

 

Yeah, because OC settings from XTU get stored in the ICC section and are loaded using the XTU service at every boot.

 

XTU has nothing to do with ICC...that's just an ME Firmware interface (which is broken on Clevo's Skylake base btw).
The reason being that XTU has only write access to BIOS in a Legacy Windows installation.
In UEFI environment it only loads settings at boot.

 

So one thing im worried about is my GPU, after about 30-40 mins of Heaven/Valley run, the temps go upto 85C. With Division its reaching high 70's.
Is that normal? My ambient is around 20C

Ahh gotcha! If I remember correctly it was slightly different for the ASUS Aptio 4 based BIOS.

 

The image of my hwinfo stats at full load (lower clocks) and the second image is of my stats at Idle (clocks I want. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong. As soon as I load the chip the clocks drop massively.

 

This is the second image showing clocks that are my target , but when the chip seems to be idle.

 

When stress testing do you guys set your system fans to max or automatic?

 

Max.

 

Therein may lie my problem, I had it on automatic, now does this mean that if you guys run your overclocks 24/7 that you run your fans at max 24/7 or is it simply not needed because for everyday use the games and everyday progs will never tax the machine as much as AIDA64 will?

 

Second. Unless I am gaming, then its fan on max since my gpus gets hot.

 

So is this score decent at 1350 Mhz boost?

 

Tested Firestrike with BGA KILLER and stock GPU + 100/100 OC. Are the results where it should be with stock and soft OC in firestrike? nVIDIA 361.91. Have some tested with other drivers and get higher score? 3DMFirestrike Physics score is quite good ( 15.510)
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7893785
Gtx980 +100/100 bost - Firestrike 12.664P


Stock Gtx980 - Firestrike 11.968P

 

Damn i cant seem to come close to your physics score.
+122Mhz / 100Mhz

 

Still a lot better than all BGA processors
Is it so that the Physics score in 3DM Firestrike is still lower with Win crap X than Win 7? What with Win 8.1?



Take a look at my new thread. Asic score.... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/post-your-asic-score-gtx980-desktop-version.789414/

 

@Papusan

Didnt know Windows 10 was this bad for bench marking. I think my physics are also being limited by my 4.3Ghz clock.

Cant wait to get back home in a few weeks and hook this up to the second adapter and bench beyond 4.3Ghz. I got a pretty stable clock running @ 4.3Ghz (-130 mV with -20 Uncore, Power Limits @ 480).

 

Windows X Me(Malware Edition sucks) I puke everytime I boot my BGA KILLER and see the new modern colored pastel tile junk Physics sucs with the malware Edition, HaHa
Tested 3DM Fire Strike with OC on 1427/7800MHz and get a better score.
13637P. On my KILL-A-WATT it stands 322.7 watts now. A single 330W psu is not enough if you should bench properly with this beast, LOL
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7894647

 

Holy **** ! Nice scores. Unfortunately its not possible for me to carry around around 2 x 330W power supplies xD . Have the second one and the converter box at home.
Im not sure, but im probably hitting the power wall, if i try to stabilize @ 4.4 Ghz along with the GTX980 @ +120 / +100 .

But im sure ill get there once im home. Learning a lot from you guys, now only if i could figure out what some of the options in the BIOS do...

 

did you get the Prema BIOS finally?

 

Yeah, this is something completely different than all slim flimsy BGA gaming machines that are so trendy now