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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    Johnksss .

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    No, I was not referring to myself.

    And you would need to following the hwbot benching to understand what it meant. :)
     
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  2. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    LOL actually no, I already know about the hwbot scoring and point system. I didn't want to assume anything, but given your reply it was just a bit of a coincidence that it was after all my recent posts on this thread; with me just being excited and happy to share results of a new machine.

    In my honest opinion, your reply consisted of a bit too much ego that was unnecessary, because the intent behind it was clear as day. Also, you need to realize that people don't post results only with an intention like you're making it out to be so it's not correct for you to think or assume that.

    hwbot is one thing (I like it a lot), but that isn't the sole basis behind why we as people who share a common interest, do what we do. I think you're putting way too much stock into this mate :) It's not that serious....hwbot doesn't mean everything (especially when notebook benchers, bench with the mobo outside of the chassis) compared to the love of the game/sport of OC'ing, and with you posting up screen shots to try and prove a point did not prove anything but display a great deal of jealously and ego. The truth is, no one cares mate to the extent that is being portrayed..really not a big deal.

    I have a great deal of respect for this sport and understand it pretty well. Your achievements are great and it's good to see what is possible so I appreciate that. However, just know that posting up and sharing results is for fun and NOT revolved around the intent of how you are perceiving it. - I wish for this not to turn into a long rant so shall we just squash it at the bud eh? It's not a big deal... If that's not what you've intended then please explain yourself to clarify.
     
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  3. Johnksss

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    You are reading into it way to much. It had nothing to do with you or your post. :)

    If I wanted to run the ego card. I would be making threads of every single world record I broke in the last 8 years.

    It has nothing to do with ego. The people involved already understand. Nothing further need be said. :)
     
  4. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    OK thanks for clarifying. I stand corrected. *hand shake* No hard feelings.

    Cheers

    ::iunlock::
     
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  5. Johnksss

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    Sorry for the confusion @iunlock . And of course, no hard feelings!
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    temp00876 Notebook Evangelist

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  9. Johnksss

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    I don't see where you were talking about the-225mv Can you show me?
     
  10. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    No worries mate. I appreciate your knowledge, willingness and help. In fact, I do have some questions :p

    My OC on the CPU's seem to be sticking okay, but the GPU often defaults back to stock after running FireStrike.

    In BIOS, I have all the multipliers and power limits set accordingly and have been using the Clevo OC app as that is the only one that seems to stick, however, for the GPU the Clevo OC app doesn't seem to be sticking so I'm having to change it after every bench. (GPUZ reports the clocks being changed when I hit apply on Clevo OC apps end, but after the benches it defaults back to stock.)

    I'm using Throttle Stop for under volting, but only for that...

    I'm about to repaste with Grizzly Kyronaut to start and later after testing different pastes, I'll test the psi with my pressure paper before going LM.
     
  11. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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  12. Johnksss

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    Well, most don't really like it, but I use XTU with a cross of TS.

    And EVGA Precision along with msi afterburner 4.3 beta for 1070's/1080's The newer versions lock out the pixel clock to keep people from bricking screens I gather.

    I only use that Clevo app when I'm not benching so i can set fans to custom while i'm playing a game.

    The gpus you want to revert back else you may get into a spot where you can't get back into the system right because the card is stuck on a faulty overclock. If you use one of the other apps the clocks should stay. Even across a few soft crashes.

    Ah, very nice indeed!
     
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  13. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    That makes sense for the GPU. True true... I don't mind having to change it each time, actually I prefer that anyway due to my OCD :)

    Wow a lot of mix of flavors there I see...I'm the same way....XTU does a fine job, I really like TS and AB as well. Glad to have options.
     
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    They all work, but sometimes you need their alter ego to get a job done. I haven't had any problems with my fan tables yet, so still waiting to cross that bridge.
     
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  15. temp00876

    temp00876 Notebook Evangelist

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    Apologies for the spam, here are some more:
    Firestrike922.png
    FirestrikeEx922.png
    FirestrikeUltra922.png
    TimeSpy922.png
     
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  16. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Not at all! Please keep them coming....no such thing as Awesome Bench Spams :p
     
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  17. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    It's possible the DM3 no longer has the glitch with fan tables and XTU, which would be nice.
     
  18. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Strange...so I'm adjusting the GPU to find the sweet spot, but it's not being nice today. Last night I was able to obtain much higher OC's on the Core and Memory, but today it's being a pill...

    This silicon is very sensitive on the Memory clocks when OC'ing...it's being very picky.
     
  19. tgipier

    tgipier Notebook Deity

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    Tip for pascal OC:
    Lower memory and see if your core clock holds much better.
    You cant just monitor stability, you need to look at whether its holding clock as well.

    OT: Cant wait until my 64GB of ram gets here...
     
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  20. Johnksss

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    You already know I'm gonna ask.

    And just what do you need 64 gigs of ram for? :D
     
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  21. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    To cache 10 Stoke Partitions with 20 Million Particles each. :D
     
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  22. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    DeLid + Grizzly Conductonaut on [die&IHS] and GPU.

    Officially Completed.

    Pics and temps coming shortly...
     
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  23. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Repaste Complete: 9/22/16 [Link to thread here for fellow 775 owners]
    • Delidded w/ Grizzly Conductonaut on (die->IHS)
    • Grizzly Conductonaut on (IHS->Heat Sink)
    • Grizzly Conductonaut on GPU

    Stock Clocks w/ -200mv Under Volt on both Core and Cache + F1 Fan ON:

    OCCT Running for ~20 Minutes:

    CPU Max:
    • Core #0: 40C
    • Core #1: 41C
    • Core #2: 39C
    • Core #3: 39C
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    OCCT is still running at the moment so I'll grab more data as the time progresses.

    I'm very pleased with what I'm seeing...
     
  24. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    In BIOS, do you guys normally max out (999999) the Power Limits (PL1 and PL2) or set it to a specific value?

    Current Limit Throttling, due to no Prema Magic :(
     
  25. D2 Ultima

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    He has a physics simulation software I believe, and it basically obliterates his current 16GB of RAM. He was so mad about needing more the other night he actually said I had a better PC than his because I have 32GB.

    I think he's hunting for a 64GB quad channel 3200MHz 16-18-18-39 kit.
    I set mine to 100W in case of whatever, but it's just a limit. Theoretically since you have 660W you should probably not set it above somewhere around 500W but eh who cares? It's just a limit =D.

    Did you try raising your CoreICCMax value anywhere? I'm almost certain it's available via XTU even on the stock machines (throttlestop's TPL window might have it too; check with TS 8.20).
     
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  26. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I use 4 GB only out of my 64GB RAM, the remaining 60GB are for bragging rights :rolleyes:

    @Papusan @hmscott @Georgel @ajc9988
     
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  27. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Whoa...

    I easily fill 16GB of ram in 10 minutes after opening my computer :eek:

    Maybe you have page file enabled, this lowers the actual RAM usage by writing RAM data to the HDD or SSD, depending on where it is.

    One of the must things to do when installing windows is disabling page file, if you have enough RAM. Photoshop can easily eat 16 Gigs of ram if an image has enough resolution.

    I wish I could go with 64 Gigs of RAM when I get my new laptopy.. But sadly, it seems odd to manualy install the RAM under the keyboard :oops:

    By the way, my understanding is that we can overclock any RAM to higher speed, but it would increase CL latency, is that correct? (CAS)
     
  28. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Maybe you guys should try using ZFS and data deduplication? 5 GB RAM per TB of storage :p
     
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  29. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Or you can have a bunch of tabs, with nice culture ready :D

    @Georgel Tell the seller that they shall put the ram sticks under the keyboard when you order your new laptop. Start with 2x16GB ram sticks and you are done for now.
     
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  30. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    As papusan said, also, removing the keyboard on this taptop is super easy if you watch Mr. Fox's disassembly video
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I think @Georgel mean if he buy P775DM2/3. A bit more difficult to reach the KB screw. This screw is under the heatsink (you must disassemble and repaste if *I the old man* :D remember correctly) :oops:
     
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    Oh I thought he wants to buy a Phoenix :rolleyes:
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    That would be the best choice for ME(I would go for P870DM3). But P775DM2/3 is also a good choice. BGA MUST be excluded (Due obvious reasons :cool:)
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-platform-launch-2017/

    http://hothardware.com/news/intel-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-lga-2066-processors-2h-2017

    Granted, wish I had more but I'm on my phone and can't find the early August articles which mentioned Ice Lake and Tiger Lake (including one of them switching to FIVR again like haswell). The 2066 pin socket rides to 2020. As such, a behemoth like that, as you said, would crush BGA.

    Here's praying for that laptop...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I don't use less than 8 once I open up my browser, able to fill over 16GB easy working... Are you using the rest for a ram drive or something? I mean, bragging is one thing, but you may as well put it to use if you've got it...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Well, technically going by pure pin count, BGA actually has more contacts than LGA.
     
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    Oh if I use the browser with a lot of tabs I exceed 8gb sometimes. I just meant on average usage
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Sorry for any confusion. I didn't mean the pin count mattered in that regard. I meant that you can use the octo and deca-core processors from next year until 2020, something BGA flavors don't get near!

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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  39. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Ah, yeah, knew it had something to do with core counts. Let's just hope those extra cores are all full-powered and not anaemic like those seen on AMD and ARM SoCs... Imagine a 200 W CPU. That would be nice.
     
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  40. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    A really good friend just gave me an Amazon gift card, so I figured that I should start getting things in order for 1080 SLI. The way the die is made seems a bit more risky for Liquid Ultra, as everything is exposed and there is no support rim around the edge. (I am really puzzled what the rationale was for removing that support rim. It makes 1080 look like the cheap low- and mid-range GPUs without it.) So, I will start with Kryonaut to see if that is good enough. If necessary I will use an RTV silicon dam around the edge of the die if I need to break out the big guns with Liquid Ultra to keep it in line.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  41. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Great stuff. That's the same 11.1g liquid goodness that I've ordered. Well worth it given that 1.0 gram is ~$13. About half the cost. Yikes.

    ::iunlock::
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Nice temps!! And kudos for the effort man!
    You seem to have a great chip!
    Will it possible to do a H.264 encoding test @ -200 ?

    Also your ambient temperature seems to be around 15C :p
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Thanks mate. Yea it was fun and the chip definitely seems to be a winner.

    Funny thing you had mentioned encoding because I had just opened up HandBrake to convert some movies haha...

    Since the characteristics are different now with the repaste, the UV's are different. Strange I know, but I'll be testing my UV's and posting them up shortly. There's a lot on my plate as I have an in depth review to write along with organizing all the pictures that I took during the delid and repaste. Oh and the temps downstairs is pretty chill with the air on (depending on who's down there adjusting it), but my office is upstairs is always around 22C-23C.

    Stay tuned!
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Paying twice as much for 11 times more product is a helluvadeal.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Yes indeed. It's just crazy how the break down of the 11.1g tube is just $2.63 per gram vs $13.00 for 1 gram. It's baffling :p

    Here's a Grizzly Conductonaut teaser :p

    Whenever I see burn marks, almost every time it makes me cringe on how lazy and cheap Intel is for using toothpaste. :( SMH
    [​IMG]

    Poor die, it was getting toasted... just in time for the rescue.
    [​IMG]
     

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  48. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I got one of those Rockit delid tools a while back. Razor blade works fine, but that just seems so much easier and cleaner. Looks like before too long I might actually have a chance to use it for the first time. Worked fantastic for @TBoneSan, @ssj92 and @j95 as well.

    For some reason your forum images are frequently broken. Might want to consider using a free imgur account. Uploading to the forum here as the web host is always hit or miss. I've been using imgur for a long time and it's awesome. You can actually email photos into the imgur account for an easy way to upload from your smartphone and download a huge zip file with an entire album, or even your entire account, etc. I also love the album feature. After losing TONS of valuable and irreplaceable images on some of the other web hosts imgur has never let me down. My pics that are 3 or 4 years old are still safe and sound.

    [​IMG]
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    D= I can only fill 8 that fast D=

    I would never, under any circumstances, disable my page file, or remove it from a SSD.

    Some programs extremely hate the page file being disabled, and it speeds up normal work usage too. When I had 16GB I attempted disabling the page file and I noticed significant performance reductions in some cases. I turned it right back on after I did some searching about it. Though, I suspect for something like Photoshop where fast swapping isn't really necessary, it doesn't mean too much.

    Yes and no. One does not need to increase timings when bumping speed per-se. It depends on the RAM, the voltage, the quality of the sticks, etc. It's possible to raise speed and lower timings. But it'd be rather rare. Generally, though, it does mean raising timings (and voltage).
     
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  50. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Ah very nice. Yea I've been noticing that a lot lately, where I would have to edit and just save for it to show up at times. Strange. I'll definitely create an imgur account as that would be help ful.

    The delid tool is great and works like a charm. I've had a lot of fun with it ... personally I'll never go back to a razer :p This tool is just too good. 1, 2, 3, pop. Done.

    Been really busy tweaking the new beast...

    I'll have to browse through your library sometime.
     
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