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What are you using now?... Xmp1 or 2? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-671#post-10395407

 

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And no problems?

 

I'm on stock BIOS using XMP1 since I've gotten the laptop a couple weeks ago, and seemingly so far haven't had any issues with the RAM, even running the TM5 finished with no errors... Although my TM5 finishes rather fast. Still have to do the memtest86 test

 

nope

 

Here are my benchmarks guys: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/evoc-p870dm3-review-by-phoenix.798685/

 

Is it possible to overclock Gskill 3000Mhz to 3200Mhz with Prema bios?!

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SOOOO, I'm in install hell for Win 7 and NVMe right now! Intel provides drivers for their enterprise SSDs, but want you to use native win 7 NVMe drivers for Win 7. M$ has this weird thing where my Keys activate it if entered BEFORE SP1 is installed, but fail after installed. Meanwhile, you need SP1 installed to use the kb that supplies Win 7 with the NVMe driver. Meanwhile, M$ does not provide the driver as a standalone driver. I don't want to install to a sata drive then move it to a partition on the NVMe and rebuild the GPT for a dual boot. In other words, **** M$ AND INTEL!!!

 

Do you have an actual key on hand?

 

Yes, I have a key on hand. I'm considering putting the key in the image and slipstreaming the SP1 into the image along with the other KB and giving it a shot, unless you have another recommendation...

 

Yes. Call the 888 or 800 number and activate it or did you try that already?

 

LOL i once got so mad that my key activation wasnt working, even though i had activated the same key the day before.
Called to yell at someone, almost did at the supposedly Indian girl, 2 mins into the call right before she was about to remotely login, i realized i forgot to install my LAN drivers
0 - Awkward in less than one driver install.

 

I have not yet, but just may take that road on it. Usually I haven't had an issue with the calling to activate, so I'll try it.

 

Most of the time it's automated. So no talking to anyone. Just a lot of number and letters to punch in is all. Although I have not checked it out for windows 10 yet.

Do like @bloodhawk said. I think that got me a few times as well. Forgetting to install a driver.

 

So finally ran at least 1 pass of memtest86, and it passed without any errors with BIOS set to XMP1! However, some of the info it shows seems as though it's on XMP2 instead of XMP1 like what's set in the BIOS, as well as what CPU-Z say the timings are XMP1... Is that "normal" for memtest86 to show different memory timings?

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After 1 pass of tests completed, notice the "RAM info" says 18-18-18-43 (XMP2) instead of 16-18-18-43 (XMP1)

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Other RAM info screens from memtest86;

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Regardless... 1 pass did complete successful at 3000MHz!

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I actually remove those components by creating a custom build, so they cannot use the remote features that are normally there. I'll update once I get things settled. I'm planning on a quad-boot of two windows 10 enterprise, windows 8.1 pro, and windows 7 pro. Then run all benchmarks worth any hardware points on the 3 OSes optimized for benching and submitting the highest ones over at HWBot. But, my second set of radiator screws to setup the push pull don't arrive until tomorrow, so benching until then won't happen anyway. I updated my sig with the build specs...

 

Did you setup memtest to run in parallel instead of single core? If you didn't, it won't find as many mistakes! Also, which tests are you running on memtest?

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Tried TM5 again on mine, since the last times I tried it completed in under 4 minutes... Success as well this time and 13+ minutes! Maybe I got lucky?

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I actually prefer offline activation by phone and have the automated system text me a link that I can use to activate offline using my Android phone. Always remember to answer 0 (zero) to the question of how many computers you have it installed on. Then use the Micro$lop Toolkit to back up your activation and image your clean OS install to save time later.

That's correct. If it only used one core/thread it will forgive many mistakes. I set it to load them all in parallel and my 32GB G.SKILL 3000 kit fails consistently. I am on the third pair of 16GB Ripjaws 3000 modules that does not work correctly in the P870DM3, so I ordered a pair of 16GB Vengeance 3000 modules from NewEgg to see if my luck changes. I sure hope so.

 

Here's a Time Spy with a moderate GPU OC... still some nice headroom left to push it harder. I don't need to at the moment, since the only one with a better score is Brother @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16323683

 

No GPU OC... Good ol' Metro LL Redux Benchmark

 

sry for tuning in so late , was pretty busy this weekend. About your problem what PSU do you use? Cause i used the 330W one and after @Prema fixed it for me back then i didn't need anything besides setting high performance profile to hold my 4.3 Ghz steady in WoW and Overwatch, i only had some black screen issues with my 980M due to the high stock voltage from Premas Vbios, dunno my ASIC anymore but i think it was around 76-77%, i repasted and reseated my Thermal pads several times but even +50 core was stable, then after i got the same black screen issue even at stock i just put in some plastic pieces (yeah you read it right ) so apply some extra preasure to the heatsink itself and it then it was stable, so it seems even when my heatsink fitted it didn't completely, before i sold it with stock bios and vbios it was stable at around +150/+400 without any issues, but i don't have access anymore to double check some things for you, i sold the device to a close friend of mine but he lives about 350km away soooo .

@Everyone else, i noticed too that the fans go rampage randomly, yesterday i was watching Ghost in the shell 2.0 at my gf place with my book and the fans randomly went to about 50-60% which was pretty noisy, i even checked the settings in CCC and they were set to "automatic" and according to Throttlestop my CPU never exceeded 41 °C which seems pretty cool to let the fans spin up so much , GPU wasn't that hot either MSI AB reported max 49 °C but i didn't bother to look at the monitoring closely, i just went on with it, after a while the fans stayed at 20-30% book was audible but not annoyingly loud, i guess windows was doing some s**t again in the background even without wirless connected .

edit: will soon at throttling screens with the cpu/gpu issue just for consistency's sake, didn't order firestrike key yet.

 

Yup, many. It did pass once, maybe just luck. One test is never enough to convince me that a problem is fixed. Overclocked the CPU and they came back.

I have had it pass more than once on the first cycle only to fail with errors in the second. It sucks having to wait so long, but this is one test that you cannot rush. After it passed yesterday I got errors near the end of the test in cycle 2 which was about 2 hours 15 minutes.

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Georgel @Papusan @DRevan @Phoenix @Everyone else i didn't mention



is this a common behaivour from the 1070? i set a custom clock curve but it doesn't use it and uses the stock one by itself? I know it power throttles but soo much it even goes to stock curve, and no it didn't crash? After press default and reinput the curve it works for a while and the same happens.

 

Pascal GPUs have a cancer vBIOS that allows them to ignore the orders of their master. They don't even need to be warm to begin throttling. Throttling begins at something extremely retarded, like 45°C. You can set whatever you want and it's going to partially ignore your settings unless you cool the GPU(s) with air conditioning or something similar to keep them as cold as possible. Even if you set an insanely high overclock, it will end up running close to stock on core clock once it is at normal gaming operating temperatures.

 

But 1080 in usage generally sits at 70C... How did they think it was going to sit at 45?

It idles at 40C with zero usage...

 

That's why I call them NVIDIOTS... they are IDIOTS. And, they are also lying sacks of excrement. They can market the clock speeds even though their GPUs don't actually function at those speeds because of thermal throttling when they are at normal room temperature. In a hot work environment a cold boot after an overnight cool-down period might even boot above 45°C, so it's all lies and deception from the masters of scammer gimmicks.

Even desktops with liquid cooled video cards are not going to run at 45°C or less under load unless they use a water chiller to keep the coolant below 45°C. I am sure that @Prema will step in and clean up their mess when the system BIOS mods are done.

The leaders of the industry are all brain dead, just like the retarded in-laws at Intel that want us to think BGA feces is acceptable and the feeble minds at Micro$haft that expect us to appreciate their Windoze OS X trash.

 

You always make me smile...

But yeah, the truth is that... They do lie. The speeds 1080 is advertised to run at won't be reached as long as it throttles. And 45C is idk, just above the room temp for many countries. Nothing will be able to maintain an 1080 under 60C, let alone 45...

Mine is between 70 and 77 depending on the game and stress, but with settings at high or settings at ultra but a more normal game, 1080 pulls around 70-73C. Something ultra stressful pushes 77C max reached temp, with 73 average after a few hours of gameplay....

Isn't what they do slightly immoral? I mean... There is one thing to advertise 3 colors as many colors, which is just exaggeration, but not a lie, while what they advertise is a lie entirely, you cannot expect those cards to technically ever run cooler than 70C in max power draw... Maybe 60 if they would use water cooling and strong cooling, but I wouldn't expect 1080 to run cooler than this...

 

Yes. I'd even say more than slightly. But, it's status quo. They have no moral compass. They are dishonest shysters. The only reason they are popular is because they are not as incompetent as AMD.

 

That is why I got a good quality 980 Ti for $100 less than a 1070. They go head to head when overclocked, roughly, but I get to work with Maxwell instead of Pascal and built in throttling (although I would fix the power limit with CLU). In the coming weeks, I'll attach a wire to enable the fully unlocked second bios to see where I can take it (otherwise it is capped at a certain OC)...

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Does locking (CRTL + L) to a clock change this behaviour?

 

Where should I press CTRL + L to test?

Pressing it in windows or chrome doesn't do anything to the GPU, nor does it do anything in HWiNFO

Without anything open it can idle at 52 in a 25C room with chrome open and 40W continous power consumption.

What is bothersome though is my CPU temp... With fans on overclock profile and laptopy on a wooden table, the CPU temps can reach as high as 98C for 41X clocks on all cores for a 4 hour continous usage. Seems that regardless of paste used, those are the temps with stock voltage and 41X on all cores.

My main gripe now is why in this world does DOTA2 consume this much CPU usage... CPU usage never touched 100%, but it reached 98C after three hours of gaming Dota2 on a wooden table, CPU at 80% usage average.

Maybe warm room, wooden table and continous usage aren't best friends but still.... Didn't notice much throttle, but there was a lot of stutter, which seems is normal in DOTA2 regardless of laptop or computer...

I guess that Skylake does need at least some undervoltage, but for now I'll just use it at 40X clocks and hope for the best

Sometimes I regret that we have only 2 GPU makers and one of them is... well... AMD hasn't pushed anything interesting in a good while. They are interesting for the mid end, but no high end card, and more important, not a single mobile high end card makes them out of the game. And we don't want them out of the game. We want the main creator to have a competitor, we want two options, we want as many options as possible, to actually have them improving to overcome each other.

Maybe a third shadow player will come up, who knows, Google or Facebook or Microsoft making GPUs... Someone needs to make something.

Makes me wonder if the tech required to build GPUs with all their parts and drivers makes it possible to sell GPUs at a similar price but with better performance. Because if it would be possible, any business man with some GPU knowledge could create a competitor (and hope to not be bought by the giants)

I just love that plastic style! Always makes me smile.

 

You press CTRL + L on the clock curve.

 

Will try then later

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Maybe a screen shot would be helpful for those that do not understand what you are referring to and how to get to the place to press Ctrl + L to lock it.

 

ok still does what it want's locked it on the lowest clock just for sake of it and still hovers right now around 1780mhz, but drops quickly ofc.

When you have MSI Afterburner installed and open it, press CTRL + F then the Voltage/Frequency curve editor should appear, and to lock the Voltage (i hope i did it right tho) just select one clock point (square) and press CTRL + L, i guess that's it @Meaker@Sager it's right that way, right?

 

He had the screenshot of the curve already

 

This one?

The context might be useful to some folks.

Will have to test it under more than a GPU-Z render to know if it actually works. It looks like it, but that's not very demanding.



I have my MSI Afterburner profiles edited with this.

Code:

[Startup]
Format=2
CoreVoltageBoost=
PowerLimit=
ThermalLimit=
ThermalPrioritize=
CoreClkBoost=
MemClkBoost=
[Settings]
VDDC_Generic_Detection=1

 

Now this is getting interesting...


I need to backtrack what did I do to not get the throttling to appear -_-

 

your CPU speed is steady

if you're talking about
GPU throttling, then go to NVCPL and set Power Management to High Performance

 

I mean the Clevo throttling where the CPU drops to 4.0 Ghz.

 

in your screenshot, the purple marker, shows 4193 MHz with a stable line, where did you see it throttling to 4.0?

 

Check your inbox, its on the 2nd page of our conversation ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

Wow nice RAM clocks & bench scores!

 

Okay, I redid the test as same when it was throttling (G-Sync+VSync on):

Previous test:


new test:

 

You changed a profile somewhere by the looks of things

 

I have G-SYNC + VSYNC off when benchmarking and I set the texture filtering to High Performance and the Power Management to High Performance

 

With V-sync the CPU can sometimes down clock due to lack of workload.

 

Well, with VSync set to Fast the CPU still dips to 4.0 GHz during gpu stress test. So not 100% stable at all circumstances due to bios limitations :/
Sometimes stable, sometimes not...really need to fix this buggy bios.