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Exactly. I'll edit density and composition accordingly.

Thanks.

 

It won't run cooler?

That was the only thing that made it look attractive...

 

Im gonna get a Silicon Lottery Kaby Lake once it arrives then overclock it to 4.8 GHz - 5.0 Ghz

 

I'm going to get an "off the shelf one" and do the same thing.

 

It is cheapest + you can be lucky and crack a SL chips in bench Still none of the SL chips in laptops who are "much" better than the one off the shelf!! One of the few benefits I can see with Kabys lake is the possibility of lower voltage... This may work fine for Overclocking + that anyone can get a little colder chips with a medium overclock

 

Lower voltage? That's good for trying to keep heat and temps down during normal use and laptop over clocking. But very bad when trying to over clock for records. Desktop benching is a whole different world from laptop benching. Where volts matter if you have the means to keep it cold.

 

I have zero errors with Gskill 3000Mhz 2*16GB

 

So literally zero IPC improvements @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER ? I am debating on pulling the trigger on a micro-beast 6700k/1070 16L13.

 

You would be perfectly fine with it. I'm running a 1070 DT card right now as a matter of fact while waiting on the next cards to hit the market for benching.

Not saying that. It will be a decent chip, just that we should not get ahead of ourselves till it's actually here for us to gauge what it can really do. Hot chips in laptops is a bad combo, while hot chips on desktop boards can be addressed by a few means of attack.

 

Fair, is there anywhere showing kabylake IPC improvements yet?

 

I don't think so....At least not yet anyway.

Edit: There are reviews out, but you know how that goes...

 

Wot.

Is this... normal? I don't get any crashes and I basically never close chrome. Or get any sounds from it. O_O. I mean chrome's been open for six da.... I should restart my PC shouldn't I?

 

Johns hardware auto-crashes if it isn't OCed for more than 30 Minutes...

 

Ah right. He can't overclock the NBR website, so it crashes his browser. The sounds must be the "stock settings detected" warning his PC gives!

 

Don't You know?

Spoiler

 

Nah, I think it was because of the ad blocker I was using. I'm now using the one @Phoenix offered and now.... No more funny business. Chrome has been sitting for about 8 hours and all the websites are still up without issue.

I was using adblock plus.

 

I can tell you this. Also this time will Mr. Azor and Dellienware be rescued by Intel as before... The First Crippled AW BGA models from early 2015 had massive throttling due scorching hot Haswell.

Thereafter was Dellienware's next revision BGA model rescued by the colder Skylake chips...

And now with the newest modern AW BGA Echo models, it's back to 100C due the amazing tripod aka 3 screws cpu heatsink.



And Finally... Now will they damn be rescued once again by Intel with the most likely colder Kaby lake BGA chips. Mr. azor and Dell shouls send "warm" thoughts to Intel

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ware-17-r4-15-r3.797378/page-20#post-10395813

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/funny-thing-i-found-on-the-15r3-2016-heatsink.797784/

 

But, but, they are so nice and slim:

Spoiler

 

"slim" is mucus in in Norwegian Maybe this below fit? From Google translate
a slimy substance, typically not miscible with water, secreted by mucous membranes and glands for lubrication, protection, etc..
The conjunctiva contains thousands of cells that produce mucus and tiny glands that produce tears.

 

Looks like I spoke too soon. The Corsair is 100% stable until I start overclocking the CPU past 4.5GHz and then the memory errors return. The frequency of errors are are very minor in comparison to the G.SKILL but even one is unacceptable. In addition to that, the SPD on the Corsair has checksum errors, as does the G.SKILL. The low-buck Facebook-grade gamer-boy Kingston 2400 has no checksum errors and overclocks to 2800 effortlessly, with no errors in testing.

So, it's RMA time. Not paying for something that doesn't work as advertised.

Please try that again with your CPU at 4.7GHz or higher and see if that still holds true. If you're lucky it might be. If you're not, you'll find the same problems that I do.

 

I just switched.

 

Which one is that?

 

Ublock origin. Way more stable than Adblock plus

 

Alright gents—I got a new heatsink for my notebook, and a small FFTs P95 run caused my CPU to go hardly higher than 85°C. That's 15 degrees lower than previously, and no more thermal throttling.

Oddly enough, after jacking up the current limit, I get power limit throttling, though the package power isn't even 47 W yet. What gives? How do I adjust this via ThrottleStop?

 

Thanks to @Phoenix for sharing that. It's way better than Adblock plus. Looks like I cannot visit Tech|Inferno unless I agree to be exposed to ad
crap now.

Congratulations. That's an awesome improvement.

Click the TPL button and set the power limits as high as you want to. The CPU will only use what it can use. See yellow highlighted boxes.

 

Ted did not make this mess. Not his fault, bro. It seems 16GB sticks don't play nice at 3000MHz in this machine. I ordered 4x8GB Vengeance 3000 sticks to see if that turns out any better. My machine works great if I don't put crap sticks in the RAM slots. If I have to settle for less than 3000MHz I will just use the $75 Kingston kit I bought last year, run it at 2800MHz and get the $200+ back that was wasted on what should have been something special.

 

Thanks, @Mr. Fox, but that doesn't seem to work. In fact, after a reboot, my CPU insists on current-limit throttling, even though I've set the current limit to something like 500 A. I believe the two boxes in TS correspond to the two power limit options in XTU as well? I've tried both, and they somehow didn't work.

My 4710MQ is either current or power throttling now (and they are mirror images, meaning if current throttling is at 7% then power throttling is at 93%, and if power throttling is at 75% then current throttling is at 25%, etc) and I've no idea why. The only thing that has been changed from before, is the heatsink...

 

If the TDP is locked or already maxed out, neither XTU nor ThrottleStop will be able to increase those values.

Current Limit Throttling can be caused by voltage being too high. Power Limit Throttling is caused by the settings I suggested being too low.

If the machine is running a whole lot cooler with the new heat sink the same amount of voltage it used to take with a hot CPU might be too much now.

 

I never thought that you were slamming Ted. I agree with you. Ted is awesome and I know he will take care of it from a money perspective. You said Hope Ted at HIDevolution will fix this mess. I thought you were talking about the technical problem, not the money spent on the RAM. I know he will refund my money on the bad RAM, too. We're both in the same boat here, bro.

 

Send me a PM and let me see if I can sort this out for you.

You'll pretty much need to be uninstalling XTU, mind.

 

That offer does sound tempting!!

Welcome back to the world of SLI.


Edit:
So back to testing this 16 GB Memory issue....
4.6 ghz

4.7 ghz

4.8 ghz

 

Notice how asinine the reviewer is by not performing a clock for clock review. The reviewer should have done a 4.6GHz run on all cores like the 6700K to show the gains, then the 4.8 to show matching temps on an OC, but I don't expect much from reviewers these days!

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Even after all these years, I have never applied Thermal pad myself. What is the most efficient way to apply it on teh P775DM3.-G? Put 1-1 larger pieces on each side on the memory modules OR cut smaller pieces and put separate ones on each memory module ?

 

thats exactly what i was thinking while reading that review...but oh well, its still early and this is more of a preview

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Ah, @Prema has finally gotten his new machine. One wonders what he's going to do with his good ol' W230SS

 

Yes, really odd. The Kingston 4x4GB manually overclocked from 2400 to 2800 with the CPU at 4.7GHz passed 4 full cycles of Memtest86 in parallel mode (all 8 threads at once) for over 5 hours without a single error, including the brutal "Hammer Test" four times, LOL.

 

im actually still wondering about the exact specs of his super special phoenix 2 prema edition

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER what your secret for getting those damn sticks stable? pls dont tell me u just set bios defaults, enabled xmp profile, set cpu voltage/power/current limits, raised multis and thats it

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It's 4GB not 16GB chips...
The lower the gig per chip the easier it is to pass.

 

Yes, that's correct. If the 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000 kit that I bought to replace the 2x16GB kit works I am going to move on and be happy with it. I just wish we could understand how and why the behavior is so radically different among the systems in use that are the exact same model. Why some like yours are OK with the 16GB kits and others are totally not OK. And, why the 6 sticks of G.SKILL I had were bad under all condition and the Corsair was fine unless the CPU was overclock... as they say, close but no cigar.

And, look at this @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER - this obviously seems to be off by a full 1.0GHz, LOL. If your system is running at 3000MHz and you read this DRAM Controller Timings does the frequency show as 3000 or 4000? It makes me wonder if using manual timings and avoiding XMP would allow the messed up 16GB modules to work properly. They're clearly not going to function correctly if the BIOS is telling the to run at 4000MHz.

 

Try to under stand the errors and then address them accordingly. So far it's like 4 to 5 different things that seem to work, but trying to figure out which times to use that is a whole other story, but once they are set. They work from that point on it seems. Even through over clocking/ crashes and reboots.....But if your looking for 100 percent stable 100 percent of the time. I would hold off on 16 gig sticks, unless you know how to get them working....I'll be ditching these after i get the final answer on them. I only got them because I couldn't test @Mr. Fox 's, but will be grabbing two more 8's that's for sure. I feel 4 8's should have no problem working, but if they do, they should be far easier to get working than 16's.

Yeah, but the 4's and 8's seem to work perfectly fine. it's the 16's that have the problem. And i did get all mine to work at 48 gigs of ram. (2 16's & 2 8's) Should it be plug n play. Sure, you bet!


Edit:
As to the last picture. I would ask Vitality what that means.... Me personally, I have no clue.
And what does your Kingston's say?

 

Btw, does anyone know an easy way of signing a driver? Evidently, the native NVMe driver for Win 7 SP1 can be pulled from different system folders after installed, but M$ doesn't recognize them as signed drivers. Just wondering for creating an image without SP1 but with the driver for future use...

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@TURBODUDE!!!

See above!

 

I am almost positive it says that no matter what RAM is installed. That's why I am thinking using XMP profiles may be the issue with 16GB modules. I don't have any other RAM to test now. The 4x8GB Corsair 3000 modules should be delivered tomorrow. What does yours show?

Is @turbodude who I think he is? (Clue is the screen shot itself.)

 

svl7?

 

TB Author

 

via Imgflip Meme Generator

 

TB=Thiaphoon burner=Vitality=turbodude if i'm not mistaken.

 

This post from the review link says it all

 

I'm gonna have to say...That's a big 10/4 negative on the xmp not working with 16 gb modules for now.

 

didn't bench much more before i have my Rockit delidder, but i noticed that my cpu doesn't throttle in GW2, weird tho was that my old P771DM did throttle with stock bios *not bad*, so isn't the throttling THAT BAD like in the previous models? Only used High performance profile and -150mV UV via TS