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@Mr. Fox @Phoenix @bloodhawk @Cass-Olé @TBoneSan +++ All former Aw owners!! And of course all computer power users who love pure processing powa.

"A $ 3,000 machine beating by a much cheaper $ 1,400 machine is incredible".

And this heavily in normal workflow!! Why pay more for less?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797457/page-225#post-10416841

The AW ship sinking deeper and deeper, faster and faster down in worlds deepest place on the earth - The ocean Mariner Trench at 10,902 meters https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench

You can't sink any deeper with your ship!! This is really scary. And I hate swimming Glad I didn't jump on the ship before it started leave the harbor.

Edit. Big thanks to @Mr. Fox A shorter version of the mess... The real meat of the video is the summary at the end [ right here]

 

Can't believe these guys made the m18x r2.

 

It is pretty sad that a big company would produce a machine with such thermal issues and with a mobile processor at that.

 

Did you guys see this yet? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/d2-ultimas-donation-thread.799602/

It is hard to improve on perfection. I get that. But, it's sad that there is no effort whatsoever to even try.

Indeed. They have become a basket of deplorables, LOL.

 

Look at this nifty little app. HWiNFO64 - HwReceiver/HwTransmitter (Android App)

Would be great if more info fit on the screen, like the desktop HWiNFO64 sensors table. But, still... cool app.

 

It looks like everyone is getting into the pad adjustment game

 

Been a long time since I was on my first computer when I was about 8 (I'm 36 now)... an old IBM 286, shortly followed by a 386. One of the BASIC games I haven't seen mentioned yet I used to like was Scorched Earth. That and Gorillas were some of the first games I "hacked" that started me down the path to liking programming.

I remember the first Pentium my dad bought for the house being a $4K system, which got terribly outdated quickly as things did back in the early PC pioneering days, haha!

EDIT: I've gotten the 1.05.02 BIOS & 1.05.04 EC now from HIDevolution... So far the CPU throttling seems to be greatly reduced. Just ran a 45x4 CPU run of Fire Strike without any CPU throttling!! Going to crank out a few more tests and post the results

 

I think I have a gutter brain.

 

I remember Scorched earth, a lot of fun playing that one.

How do you like the 3k display? I've read complaints about it but I can't really see any problems from the videos. Mine should arrive tomorrow.

 

I really like the 3K screen @Porter. Text was a bit too small for comfortable reading and W10 sucky scaling issues was not helping much. But, since I started using this tweak, I am very glad I have it now. Before I found the info on the web, I was missing the 1080p screen. This, along with 100% scaling, made it perfect IMHO.

 

Yea I'm really loving it... Playing games, surfing the web, watching movies, everything looks fantastic to me. On rare occasion I'll see the "horizontal lines" issue, but it's not often enough or bad enough to bother me much so far!

Yea I still have to do that, I do much prefer the look of 100% scaling in general over 125% that I've been using! Thanks for that reminder

 

What kind of complaints?

 

Nice. Tyvm for that link I was looking for that kind of thing recently, only found Remote System Monitor and it ate way too much CPU

 

Something about banding or horizontal lines. I could kindof see something in a video, but honestly any digital display I see pixels and rows of pixels so I'm not sure I would notice this and more.

Thanks @Mr. Fox and @afloyd. I don't really have any problems with scaling as I've been using 2.5k and 4k displays for years and don't have any problems with them, I was more concerned with the "other" issue.

 

QBASIC games were awesome. I thought it was the coolest thing how you could tell a computer what to do. I even tried to code my own game once. Problem was, I was like 5 and had absolutely no idea what I was doing so I wrote crap like this:

Code:

10 YOU ARE IN A HOUSE
20 DO YOU GO LEFT OR RIGHT

 

So I'm downgraded my BIOS/EC from 1.05.03/1.05.06 to now having 1.05.02/1.05.04 with files from HIDevolution finally.... And all I can say is wow, what a difference!! ZERO CPU throttling compared to before!

I'll take you through some settings along the way to get to my all time high Fire Strike run since the BIOS/EC switchover... All of these runs are with Fn+1 & my cheapo laptop cooling pad on and powered through the laptop USB port

17,302 - STOCK --
2400MHz RAM stock setting
42x1, 40x3 CPU, 40x cache
+0/+0 GPU

Spoiler

17,511
3000MHz XMP1 RAM
stock 42x1,40x3, 40x cache
+0/+0 GPU

Spoiler

(45x is where I was previously having CPU throttling, and probably not due to temps since ambient & air cooling are the same)
18,137
3000MHz XMP1 RAM
45x4 -50mV adaptive, 45x cache
+0,+0GPU

Spoiler

18,511
3000MHz XMP1 RAM
48x4, 45x cache
+0,+0GPU

Spoiler

Mistakenly took the screenshot without the CPU frequency chart... but there wasn't any CPU throttling, which you'll see in the next test image

19,328
3000MHzXMP1
48x4,+60mV, 45x cache
+210(custom freq/voltage curve),+500 RAM GPU

What a beautiful thing to finally run 48x on the CPU and have no CPU throttling during the entire test!!

Spoiler

So now I think I'm at the point that I basically have got to work on lowering temps to get better scores to try and attempt to catch some of the bigger OC'ers here... And I have some serious non-a/c plans for that, 144 Watts worth of PC fans in a custom built laptop cooling pad! Probably going to be hella loud, but should run nearly as cool as the room I'm hoping

 

HAHA nice.... And that reminds me, I had totally forgotten one of the first multi-player online games I played.... ZombieMUD, a text based RPG!

 

Well I broke 23,000 but with the current setup that is the best I can do for now. Will probably pick up the new AC adapter that came out at some point and see if I can push it further; however, 4.6 x 4, 4.4 cache is as far as I can push the CPU right now which may just be its limits anyways.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11845216

 

So no screen flickering then?

 

No idea, but hadn't actually read anything about any flickering. That is why I was asking an owner. I see you have one, is there a flickering issue?

 

From what I saw, the only problems claimed was that in some situations you could see different rows of pixels. It doesn't make much difference in motion for games etc, but some users were saying this forums specifically it could be seen on.

I know if I see it it would probably drive me nuts to keep it. Those kinds of things eat at me. Also, I've heard (but of course not been able to confirm) using 6-bit colour instead of 8-bit colour kills the issue entirely. The panel apparently doesn't use true 8-bit and that's the reason. Again, haven't been able to check specifically myself.

 

So, I know we all use intel because... well we all know why.

But I found this hilarious, especially the "super professional overclocking" part:


(lel I used to get better FPS in BF4 than him with that 5.4GHz OC lelelelellelelelelelellelelelelelel ok I'm done #intel #GoodRam)

 

@Porter
The screen would flicker like it didn't have enough power. Then turn black and I would have to reboot to get it to come back on.




http://valid.x86.fr/wd29s5

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER ...dude!!!...

 

@TBoneSan: thx for spelling out my thoughts exactly

 

That's strange never noticed that on mine... What was the fix?

(And awesome scores as always!!)

 

I personally don't see any flickering or lines on my 1440p screen. But I am old and can't see as good lol...

 

Yeah, if I get my face close enough to the screen I can see some evidence of this. But, I can also see it on other notebook displays and my television if I get close enough and look hard enough. I never see the horizontal lines under normal use scenarios. As far as I am concerned, this is a completely normal condition.

 

Ok so I'm curious on other people's experience. CPU / GPU underload - are you noticing the CPU absorbing GPU heat? Particularly under gaming conditions.

I ask for gaming conditions since most of the benchmarks being posted aren't bruising both CPU and GPU at the same time and 3Dmark combined test aren't enough to notice notice much either way.

 

I am not really sure; however, over a long period of time playing my CPU and GPU temperatures even out some and if I do overclock my CPU then over time the GPU temperatures are normally higher but I figured this may be due to the temperature inside the case as well. My GPU and CPU temperatures are around the same at 4.3GHz and +100 GPU at around 62 to 66C. If I play at 4.5GHz and +100 GPU I see around 73 to 78C on the CPU and around 68 to 70C on the GPU.

 

I think the grid/vapor chamber works pretty well as long as everything is fitting correctly. The behavior is different than what we are accustom to. Since it is a lot of metal all tied together, it seems the heat up and cool down time is longer than typical. What I mean by that is it seems to take a while to build up heat and once it does it takes a while to get rid of it. I guess we'd expect that from a big chunk of metal, LOL. But, I actually think it is extraordinarily effective for my AC-cooled benching. It seems to hold cold as well as it does warmth.

If you ever pull the bottom cover immediately after a long gaming session, the heat sinks feel crazy hot compared to what I am used to, but the CPU/GPU temperatures are still reasonable. But, that's what heat sinks are made for... wick away the heat.

 

I'll leave this here for those wanting a 7700K early: http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=164734


Edit: not vouching veracity, just popped up in my feed...
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$475 USD for a quad core CPU is a bit steep. I'd be expecting at least a hexacore for that price.

 

yep, checked prices today as well, 7700K is going for 420€ boxed incl. shipping in Germany. not worth it yet, gonna wait until its reached at least parity with 6700K

 

It's also pre-release and we don't know, yet, whether that is a good chip or middling. After binning begins, it will become more clear what it is worth. I saw an amazing binned 6700k for 900 euros that was used in the galax competition in wuhan. I'd never pay that even if it was the top 0.1% chips ever produced, but if you value it at that, then... But I believe the behavioral economic theory from the univ. Of Chicago to be more correct than other theories (They also brought us supply-side economic theory in the late 60s and 70s, so take with a grain of salt).

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Was it released there?

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not officially, thats why i was surprised to see regular shops listing it as in storage: https://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/eu/intel-core-i7-7700k-bx80677i77700k-a1551097.html

btw, how did that 900€ chip clock? would be curious to see whats theoretically possible with such a top tier chip

 

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=164670
5ghz cinebench@ 1.29V

Edit: In addition to air, it does excellent under ln2, which is why the price...

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I know they want us to believe Kaby Lake will not support W7. Hopefully, that is not accurate. I suspect it is just mind games to help prop up the Redmond Mafia and their latest OS abortion. If it is accurate and Kaby Lake really will not work with W7, then I am not sure I am going to be willing to give up the ability to run whatever OS I feel like running. That rubs me the wrong way regardless of what I think about W10. They should support us making our own decisions about what OS to run, be that W10, an older version Windows, Linux or a Hackintosh. They should have no input or influence whatsoever about the choice in OS.

 

Very impressive and crazy to see that kind of performance out of a laptop.

 

What I see it is that they will not make chipset drivers for the older OSes. There is a chance the z170 chipset running Kaby will be fine, but no support for z270. It doesn't mean it won't work, but think of how much quicker it runs with the chipset and mei installed compared to not having those installed. But, time will tell...

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I have no doubt someone can and will hack the drivers if they need to. But, I still have a problem with their malicious intentions. I would also be super disappointed to see any evidence of Intel cowing to edicts of the Redmond Retard Mafia. Intel should tell them to pound sand and do the right thing whether they like it or not.

 

I agree, but both amd and Intel have agreed to do it for m$. Ryzen said to be only available to support win 10. The entire computer industry sales are slumping, so they believe pushing all new, top to bottom may help. Also, with all the talk of building in backdoors for the US government during the primaries, win 10 NSA edition may be meant to force everyone into super snooper data mode for the gov't.

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Try $340 instead?

 

That's more appropriate for 4C/8T 7700K price point. The 2 extra cores are a nice bonus. But, it won't work on our laptops, unfortunately.

Even more reason to say no to the filth. M$ can bite me. While nobody with a functional brain believes the Russians had anything to do with it, the childish reactions from the losers that we have seen over the outcome should make us all extremely afraid of what an American dictatorship with SkyNet technology at their disposal would look like.

 

Don't forget the gas tax! If you don't have one in town. Or just have a friend pick it up and mail it to you...

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He would need a system to put it in. That does not work with socket 1151 Z170. It would be nice to have a socket 2011-V3 laptop.

 

Their response is that we need censorship and to give up our first amendment freedoms. It's like they asked us to give up our privacy with the patriot act and subsequent laws!

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You could get a cheap mb for the amount saved. Won't be great, but gets you a basic build...

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Yeah, I know. I just decided to link it because it's basically $400+ for the mainstream crap-by-comparison chip, but then this hexacore is $340 right there.

If only Skylake-E was here and in these notebooks eh? Maybe they might make a P570WM-esque P870DM3 hybrid thing and call it the P9001XM. Because it's over 9000! and EXTREME!