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So what does it look like under load?
Does it look something like this?

 

He used HWiNFO to check power drawn and voltage. Also, it seems I was confused, it was 1.2v not 1.25v after -150mV. Screenshot is here, but shows the CPU in a throttled state. I wish I had a crack at the system myself to be honest.

 

I reached out to them only a week ago to see if they could be a little more specific with their voltage requirements for their Skylake range. If you notice they're not so frugal with their voltage requirements to achieve their silicon winning clocks anymore.

The reply I got when I mentioned it would go in a Clevo was 'laptops can't achieve that voltage'. I followed up with a screen dump of Brother Fox's 4.9 post. He replied that he didn't know such laptops were capable. He seemed receptive and glad to know... and.. at least now he knows.
It would be great to see chips binned for our Clevo's.

Side issue.. had anyone ever bought a batch of chips from Alibaba before?
I'm thinking we could do a small group buy of 5+ 7700k's.

 

Using Prime95 on a Haswell or Skylake CPU doesn't make good sense. Tell your buddy to use Cinebench or wPrime. There could be a lot of reasons his CPU isn't running right. Setting -150mV and expecting everything to fall in place like magic isn't realistic. Do you know what else he might have set (or not set) because it might be user error. I keep telling people their malfunction issue are due to setting crazy low negative voltage offsets but they seem to know more than I do... even though I'm not the one with issues, LOL. Oh well... I guess that's really popular to do that. Haswell and Skylake are both going to do things to try to circumvent user error to some extent, especially with adaptive voltage.

 

That is good to know! Thank you for the primer for when I reach out. Could you pm me the contact information you used so that I know who has and has not been approached/contacted? I won't be able to reach out until the 29th, but I plan to do a write up of a proposal to submit to them. From there, after testing receptivity, I'll see what can be done...

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How much and when?

And go show him these.
See if he has any of these laying around, but 7700K's

 

How are you even stabilizing the system at those clocks.

 

Because. I stay tinkering when I get the time to do so.

 

What I meant was, what in addition to the basic multiplier settings / voltage , is needed to achieve this?
For example in desktop motherboards one would tweak the LLC to stabilize voltage etc.

 

He did some more; that was just the only publicly available shot I had with a monitoring program running.
Cinebench
wPrime 32M

Though, P95 should be fine for Haswell since there's no AVX code to brutalize it, as far as I remember? OCCT should be as brutal as P95 in that respect, no? If I'm mistaken I'm good with being corrected.

 

How well does Linpack/Intel Burn Test fair ? The non AVX.

 

I just set the voltages and go, but if you're not cold enough, you will crash every time.

 

Yeah thats one think im lacking a lot.
Was able to hit 2214 on the 1080 FTW Hybrid today.

 

I don't think he ran Linpack or XTU. I can probably push him to come here and see how tweaking can work. I honestly didn't ask to check the machine. I simply remember him saying he was hitting 90W+ power draw in CPU stress/benchmarks and overdrawing the power brick (draining the battery) in even plain gaming scenarios with the CPU undervolted by -150mV, and I know it's not the normal case for the machine as others have been able to avoid these scenarios. The CPU power draw in particular seemed exceedingly high for Skylake, considering it takes overclocks to even approach 90W for most of you.

 

Nice! A nother happy clocker passing the 2.2ghz marker on a desktop 1080.

 

I doubt there's really any place to really put this ( I'd start a thread but its been a while ) I'm still lurking and catching up though. Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Xmas, barely managed to get this done in time today.

 

Merry Christmas to you all from myself and all of Sager

 

Merry Christmas everyone!

 

Sorry about the late reply. Merry Christmas to all.

These seem to be available right now. If we buy 5 we get them for $325 a piece.
I didn't realize the group buy is only $5 savings... nothing worth shooting for.
Regardless, these puppies might be worth getting - I just want to vet the dealer.
Have you ever bought from Alibaba?

https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/prod...0578152442.html?spm=a2700.7906341.35.1.kdFjkT

 

Aren't Intel CPU fab's in the US, Hillsboro, Oregon, to be specific:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-09/how-intel-makes-a-chip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_manufacturing_sites

It wouldn't offer much savings to ship from the US to China and then back to the US

 

Wiki could be right regarding 14nm in the US. I was under the impression Intel had more manufacturing sites that aren't even listed in that Wiki - eg. Malaysia, Costa Rica, Vietnam etc.
Not sure about their logistics. If that seller is legit would be my bigger concern. Second to that, are the chips on hand to ship right away.

 

Merry Christmas too to everyone, will probably do some 6700k validation today and look how high it get's for now.

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because @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER is an 0v3rcl0ck!n6 w!z4rD~

 

To build on this, there may be misperceptions saying that binned chips run cooler. I want to clarify what is meant by this, reposting what I wrote in another thread:

Say you have two CPUs, one binned for [email protected] and one binned for [email protected]. Someone may confuse this to mean that you get the same heat output on both CPUs except the second one is faster. That is not necessarily the case. The second one may run hotter than the first one when set to the higher multiplier while the first one uses a lower multiplier and both use the same voltage, but would likely be cooler than the first one if the first one was clocked to 4.8 but using a higher voltage. So, to say it runs cooler is not necessarily the proper way to describe the higher binned chip, instead opting for saying it is likely cooler at a specific multiplier due to using less voltage at that multiplier. I want to avoid the confusion that not spelling that out can cause!

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Yes, hope everyone has a Merry Christmas!!

 

Merry Christmas y'all!

I'll have to jump on the CPU overclocking benchmarks soon.

What's the highest anyone with the stock BIOS has gone thus far?

 

For sure!

On laptops , there are fewer settings to play around with.
But the main factor, as he has mentioned many times now , is cooling

 

no one can beat @Papusan when it comes to cooling as he operates his taptop from a fridge

 

Damn straight , he needs a handicap.

 

Hybrid cooling is a handicap.

Merry Christmas to all from Ibuypower and myself!!

 

stock BIOS, if I set it toe 4.6 GHz, it immediately throttles to 4 GHz despite me upping the power limits to the max


4.4 GHz Core / Cache is fine but throttles the moment the GPU gets involved and this is with BIOS 1.05.04 / EC 1.05.08

Sucky stock BIOS

 

@Phoenix contact HIDevolution and tell them you're getting throttling.... They just sent me the 1.05.02 BIOS & 1.05.04 EC after I submitted a support ticket. I don't get any CPU throttling anymore.

I can run Fire Strike @ 4.8GHz with ~+215GPU/+500RAM on my single 1080 without CPU throttling. GPU still does throttle some, however, probably due to vBIOS thermal limits (even though it doesn't exceed 70*C).

Mine will clock to 4.9GHz with stock cooling & stock BIOS/EC, but not stable enough yet to get validation.

 

I will, please post your BIOS power limits / voltage settings.

I am your friend

 

I think you don't know about my wife and daughter. Home can be a living hell I really hate that fireplace Bring me a AC unit and I will be happy in my closet,HaHa
And happy Christmas holidays boys and girls.

 

1.05.01LS2 EC 1.05.04
Stock Sager bios no mods right out of the box. I could do 4.8 ghz. It took a few hours to figure out the board, but once figured it out, I could then get to 4.9 ghz.

I thought you downloaded a copy of my 1.05.04 a long time ago?

 

yes I installed 1.05.04 / EC 1.05.08 it doesn't fix the throttling

 

What were your voltages like ?

I OC'd my friends DM3 to 4.8ghz with the EC 1.05.04. No throttling what so ever.

 

Can't find my previous post right now... On mobile phone traveling. But I believe I used 48x4 +60mV adaptive. And 44x cache. +~215 GPU / +500 RAM for a 19,xxx Fire Strike score

EDIT: See this post

 

I give up on this crappy laptop and crapy Clevo BIOS

ill just wait for the next Prema BIOS as the current beta one causes my laptop to reboot randomly whether overclocked or not

I've wasted too many calories on this POS laptop

 

Thanks, you just described what I noticed today. Temps are great but it was only going to 4.1 at times, and other times would stay at 4.5. I will likely just wait for the Prema release, as I heard it was close to being ready.

Lol, sarcasm detected (I hope)

 

sorry for the maybe totally stupid question but for the validation in cpu-z i just have to run this, or do i have to run a benchmark too?

 

Im talking about the EC 1.05.04 not your bios.
And the last revision I released was 1.05.08G which was from Sager. Which is better than all but one.

Just hit the validation button once you set your clocks. It takes like 10 seconds because it puts a load on your clocks to make sure they are stable. Then it will take you to the validation website.

 

nope, just cpu-z. has to be stable enough to open cpu-z and then open the validation page in your browser. it helps if the browser is already open and not many background processes active

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looks like stock bios locks to about max 45, i tried 49 which worked for some seconds but the online site only showed about 4489mhz :/, High Performance profile is ofc active with 100% min/max and Throttlestop doesn't too anything either.

edit: Validation Link , fun got denied by stock bios, with almost no load it stays at x49-x50 multi, then when i hit validation, Limit Reasons "Residency" Lights up like bad :/

edit2: ok found the culprit, seems like stock bios locks down at around max 1.35v under load, i think someone mentioned that here in the thread already. Validation Link

 

Just did pretty much what you did and it past.

 

are you already on Premas bios? i can get pretty much at the x49 area now but it seems i need a little more juice for x50 but there the residency kicks in after i up the voltage a bit more

 

No, im not on a prema bios at the moment.

 

hmm i don't think the chip is the culprit tho

 

Are you able to boot 4.9 ghz?

 

haha, I've bumped into the validated 5+GHz club!!

4.9GHz -- http://valid.x86.fr/ec2y0n
5.0GHz -- http://valid.x86.fr/lrxmw2
5.1GHz -- http://valid.x86.fr/hn0181

Gonna have to re-try to get the 5.1GHz with the "private" box unchecked, doh! It definitely wasn't very stable and crashed right after it loaded the webpage with the result... But looks like I got quite lucky since I didn't specifically get a Silicone Lottery chip, and just a random one that HIDevolution delidded for me!

EDIT: And this is with the stock 1.05.02 BIOS & 1.05.04 EC...