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Yes not exactly practical every day clocks But nice to see what the silicon can do.

 

I'd like to have that for normal gaming and benching clocks. Using all cores/threads or course. That would be sweet.

 

7GHz daily driver? I'd take it.

 

Which version because There's a huge bug w/ AE/AP having issues w/ rendering using multicore atm, a spokesman for Adobe put it out a while back , there was a huge thread on it, I'll try to find it.

 

7GHZ? I saw on @Prema home page guys hitting 4.9 and 5. I got mine to 4.6 today and damn near cried. I had a speech ready. I don't know how you guys are doing it.

 

Ya @bloodhawk you were one of them. @Mr.Fox and @johnksss were WAY up there too. I need a lot of patience and some liquid nitrogen maybe I'll get 4.7

 

Most people are too greedy with voltage when they are looking for the big numbers. You can't expect to bench with ÷100 in undervoltage if you want 4.8 or 4.9GHz. If this had been so easy... You have won the silicon lottery Everyone talks only about how much they can under volt their processor, but they forget that the same chips need food for highest possible clock speed

 

Those 2 are the over Lords. Can't be matched.

 

That pretty much describes me to the T. To nervous to up the voltage

 

@Georgel

Adobe is very biased towards quadros.

I will laugh if intel decides to go on a similar direction....

 

There are ways to fool their POS bias. Ez PZ file edit. And their tools sleep with GeForces like warm kittens. ( Or something )

 

It's Nvidia who are biased against consumer gpgpu. Each generation gets more nerfed in precision FLOPs. It's like the ghost of the 480 still haunts them.

Or, maybe it just serves them better to charge $thousands for a "professional" version of a GPU

 

Well initially the drivers were actually better than the consumer counter parts. But now a days it's a **** show all.over the place.
****ing OpenGL issues even with Quadro's at work, where I can even move certain sections of my software to a different monitor without causing the viewport a seizure.

 

The real challenge would be taking a xeon phi to 3ghz on all 72 cores lol.

 

72 cores at 3GHz?

.......

I'm trying to figure out if I can break it with OBS.

 

And 288 threads

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/xeon/xeon-phi-detail.html

 

So who's up to the challenge ~ Hue~

 

Mmmm....

I can break it.

 

Hey Brother @Jon Webb. If you have an average 6700K it will run between 4.5 to 4.7GHz using stock voltage. At 4.7GHz most need between +20 to +30mV for benching with stability. So, very easy to do even for someone with minimal overclocking experience. The key that many are missing is the need to knock it off with silly undervolting stuff. It's popular for some reason, but the results leave too much to be desired.

 

But it's fun to try!!!

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I just started playing with DaVinci resolve. Still learning and complete noob, but...

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Resolve is pretty cool. Specially for Grading and Color Correction. For some serious work you need one of these : https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/nz/products/davinciresolve/control

ORRRR the budget solution : https://store.djtechtools.com/products/midi-fighter-twister and pair this with Midigrade

I got to fiddle with the Control at the last studio i was at, and boy that thing is heavenly. Obviously a massive dent in the bank, yes BANK, not the wallet.

Me on the other hand does everything in NukeX
Specially since the compositing is done later down the chain, and LUTs are just slapped on.

 

Im sure Engineering at my work place would love to get their hands on a few of these for our farm

 

So, was that an offer to buy me a control, paid for by you putting a "massive dent in the bank," which I take as not so coded language for a robbery? You can tunnel in, or you can plan a diamond heist and since buying an amazing control, you could give everyone code names like Mr. Pink and Mr. White. Or maybe hit up a diner because it cuts down on the hero factor, climb on the table, and yell "any of you ****ing pricks move, and I'll execute every mother ****ing last one of you!" Followed by an awesome bass rift!



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God I forgot how big of a joke PCworld is
"Most gamers/desktop users don't even need quadcore or multicores for that matter, noone can use them until DX12 changes things" I kek'd

 

people have forgotten the concepts of VFM and actual performance. And most reviews by the main stream websites are drives, by the "pwetty" and good enough factor.

 

I imagine you are familiar with uOS. If you have the applications that can run on xeon phi, might be interesting....

Honestly, too much work to set up clusters dealing with these fanless co processors. Too much design/math involved to bother.

I have a lot of difficulty porting files to Resolve. I didnt particularly like the UI tbh.



Edit: Should we make a thread on general computing? This is a tid off topic lol.

 

Speaking of which since the BWE xeon can hit 3.6 on turbo, I'm really banking on the Skylake Xeon Variant pushing to 4.0, though if it can reach all cores, I doubt but would be incredible to see that thing render.

 

or simply just get the Windows 10 LTSB 2016 from somewhere *cought*

@Mr. Fox @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER just curious if get to the 4.8-5Ghz are you still use offset values like +50mV e.g. or you start switching too to override voltage mode and input 1.4v directly, shouldn't the latter theoretically be more stable due to less vcore variation?

@jaybee83 sitting at 4.5Ghz now, these 4.4Ghz 1.19v vs 4.5Ghz 1.25v stable ( at least 5 rounds of x264 bench stable, + played 4h Dying Light yesterday) settings only made a difference of merely 3-4 °C when using x264 bench, i expected a bit more tbh

 

in my experience, ull always see vcore fluctuations, no matter which mode ure on. adaptive, however, seems to be the most predictable when ocing.

4.5 is also my daily driver at ~1.2v average during load. try something more demanding like occt or p95, then ull see the temp differences "pop" more 4.8 is my stable limit, i can only validate 4.9, above that its no dice.

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That is something I didn't know about

I think I'm using the latest version of AE, CC 2015.3, no idea about the differences between versions.

6700k + GTX 1080, render step takes 5-10 minutes for a >5 minutes video, CPU isn't used even 50%, GPU isn't used at all (7W our of 200W max power consumption. Watching a video normally consumes 40W... )

Whoa, that sounds quite bad.

I've been wondering for a while tho, what is the purpose of quadros. It seemed like they were made for Autocad and other precision software, not AE or PS.

Please explain a bit more about this



Also, pardon me intrusion with my petty questions, but is there any way to speed up preview step in AE>?

 

Wishing everyone (belated) Happy Holidays and an overclocked but stable 2017!

BTW, why is this not in the OP, yet?

http://valid.x86.fr/wd29s5

 

because I don't have a crystal ball. I cannot update anything if I'm not tagged.

Check the OP now please

 

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER @Papusan @bloodhawk @Mr. Fox @Prema

Please help me with this: Help me with an explanation of these BIOS options please

 

Hey @Phoenix about some of the questions you have. There is definitely room for errors there but i think my answers are most right.

FCLK = some sort of BUS between PCI-E and CPU, 1Ghz is the default when using premas bios, i asked him about that about 1 year ago, on the P775DM3 i never checked but i would guess that's 1ghz already too. Here is a good article about it, back then at release when 800mhz was still forced due to a bug.

about RSR it's Residency State Regulation, don't count me on that but i think it's some sort of protection that the voltage doesn't bounce too dangerous levels when trying real high voltages, like for me when i tried the 4.9Ghz 5.0Ghz runs, the stock bios decided to limit it to max 1.38-1.4v so i never could get 5.0ghz validation stable, HWinfo then reported that RSR was the Throttling reason and my ratio got limit to max x41

Residency State Regulation (RSR)
Allows you to determine whether to automatically lower the CPU turbo ratio if the CPU voltage/temperature
is too high. source

 

I gave up on that. when the last few scores did not get added to the list and i did tag him on those post.

 

Okay, I tried a few settings on AE, seems I cannot render faster, 20 minutes for a 5 minute video on 6700k+GTX1080 doesn't sound that good to me...

 

sorry if I miss any tags as I usually have 20+ notifications when I access NBR every morning that I might get lost

 

Intel RC ACPI Settings -- Probably related to HotPlugging

PTID Support -- No idea :S

BDAT Table -- https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/RM06/Chap6bdat.html

CPU Flex Ratio Override -- "the minimum non-turbo ratio the CPU will use under certain circumstances" Source - http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/10/14/gigabyte_z170x_gaming_g1_motherboard_review/7

PECI -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_Environment_Control_Interface

Intel Trusted Execution Technology -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology

FCLK Frequency (has values of 400MHZ, 800MHz, or 1GHz which is the default) -- "Another couple of weeks later, we were contacted by ASUS who shed a lot more light on the issue. The register in question is called the FCLK (or ‘f-clock’), which controls some of the cross-frequency compensation mechanisms between the ring interconnect of the CPU, the System Agent, and the PEG (PCI Express Graphics). Basically this means it is to do with data from the processor to the GPUs. So when data is handed from one end to another, this element of the processor manages the data buffers to allow that cross boundary migration in a lossless way. This is a ratio frequency setting which is tied directly to the base frequency of the processor (the BCLK, typically 100 MHz), and can be set at 4x, 8x or 10x for 400 MHz, 800 MHz or 1000 MHz respectively."
Source : http://www.anandtech.com/show/9607/skylake-discrete-graphics-performance-pcie-optimizations

Race To Halt RTH -- Something to do with aggressive power savings?

HDC Control -- Hill Descent Control ?

Energy Efficient P-State -- Couldn't find much on this, but from what i read, i understand that it related to aggressive power states? Like the ones we have on Maxwell GPU. https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2008/03/12/c-states-and-p-states-are-very-different

Energy Efficient Turbo -- https://software.intel.com/en-us/fo...optimization-platform-monitoring/topic/543513

VR Mailbox Command Options -- No idea :S

CPU Lock Configuration -- No idea :S

IMON Scaling Support -- No idea :S, But have always had this disabled.

 

@bloodhawk
Damn, that's what i got from google as well. LOL

imon maybe...
https://dynamix-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/trentonsystemscom/Trenton_THD8141_BIOS_Setup_Manual.pdf

 

Haha yeah. Its surprising, that there is barely any info available for some of the most common settings in today's BIOS'.

 

Thanks @Mr.Fox
I appreciate the info.

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema

Still throttling with the new BIOS, C-States disabled, Voltage auto optimization disabled or enabled makes no difference, Intel Speed shift disabled or enabled makes no difference

clock speeds were rock solid with the previous BIOS but I can't use that as you know my random reboot issues with it. This has no random reboot issues though:

 

Race to halt is indeed the concept of boosting a workload quickly in order to sleep quickly (AKA race to sleep)

HDC control is hardware duty cycling, in simple terms it's like PWM but for a chip instead of a fan, and very similar to the concept above.

 

Seems like the clocks were steady during the Physics test. So the throttling is only happening when both the GPU are running at high loads.

Are you on the Stock BIOS/EC? or the Beta?

 

I had to look up a PTID device, it's a power/monitoring chip so as an OEM you could get your own and feed in data to the BIOS/EC in order to control the system.

 

You may want to double-check settings...

No XTU, TS or CCC, pure Prema BIOS here:

Spoiler

P.S.: This ain't the feedback thread...

 

Wait WHAT!? 5.0Ghz for benches!? Im sure its exclusive to your system

EDIT: And @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER 's and @Mr. Fox 's :S

 

My screen was flicking way to much for me to run a full test @ 5ghz. Hopefully getting that resolved as we speak.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11185023

 

IS that the stock BIOS ?