Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

55 means your memory is unstable. Could be anything from not enough voltage or cache voltage or vccio voltage or sa voltage or uncore or the memory needs to be re seated or the cpu needs to be re seated. If the memory worked before and you only just started getting this, then chance are it's a setting...Whether that setting is too high or not enough.....hard to tell.

 

What are these codes? Abbreviated bugcheck (BSOD minus the 0x in front) or some other type of error code? I do not recognize any of them.

 

Mobo error codes. Its a desktop feature that should be on notebooks but not..... because screw convenience.

 

These are motherboard codes. Most mid to high end motherboards have a 2 digit display for displaying codes when the board boots up.

 

Multitasking is not always good, but it's handy sometimes.

for example, if you have a large work load to do, it's really handy to multitask it with something else so it doesn't get repetitive XD

Drawing, programming, writing and movie editing. I don't multitask, but change between those at a 20 or so minute intervals. Mostly to always be in top condition.

 

8 degrees Fahrenheit right now. Should take my laptop in the garage and run some bench's. Probably to cold for the clu though, lol.

 

No, that will be really excellent. Do it. The CLU will be warm enough with high clock speeds. Your core will be more than +11 °C. I really miss being able to bench outside in that kind of weather. If you have a U3 to set it on it will be even better because it will keep everything inside of the chassis super cold, too. The bottom of the P870DM1/2/3 has so much grille surface you don't even need to take the bottom cover off. @Papusan also knows what that's like.

CLU is basically the same stuff inside of a thermometer (a little different, but very close) so if it's not too cold for a thermometer to work, it's not too cold for CLU to work. Brother @t456 knows about that, too. He buys it in bulk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galinstan

 

Well it's a matter of convenience, more than most. I switch between different tabs and refresh and either check things or change focus. It's a nice way to get through a lot at once. It's also easier because I do a lot of things that I don't want to keep opening and searching for. Most everything I keep open I check through a couple of times, or have for linking convenience, etc. It's also why I hate rebooting because it takes a long time for me to re-open everything. There's so many tabs that I'm sure I could run an octocore to 100% on boot when I re-open everything hehe. (Also if you think I'm bad you should see @LunaP)

I'm one of those rare individuals who wants to do anything whenever I decide to. Whether that means trying to overclock and run a bench, enjoying some games, playing with friends, chatting and watching anime, recording/rendering videos, streaming, doing research/chatting on the forums, relaxing and listening to some music while I lie down, etc. I basically do some of everything. PCs are my life, basically =D.

 

-12 C in Romania.

I wonder if I should....

 

Yeah, I've had the 55 many times while tweaking my 3733 settings. I have 4000 somewhat stable now (better than this afternoon), but still need to mess with the timings some more. But considering this board wouldn't boot 4000 at all with my ram previously (other bios), and that M8E are hard to find boards at 3866 and over, I'll take it. . . .

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Its just a case of different usage scenarios. Some people operate better with more, some with less. I have major ADHD so I'm constantly aware of what I have where and instantly go to it w/o actually giving it a thought, arrange and pop up things as needed and keep convenience as a factor when chatting/browsing and drawing + gaming or watching anime. I hate moving windows, I hate having to alt tab, I barely have to move my neck at all and when I'm live streaming I don't have to flip over constantly whenever I'm drawing to see what people are saying in chat and I can put up references and do 3D + post w/o dragging windows open, map my perspective and move an overlay over at the same time, and keep the stream going and rendering for alternative taskings. I'd rather have more for anything that comes my way vs worry about it when it happens. Pure overkill is a convenience I've learned to love, and reduces any additional stress in my already 10066% overstressed life hue.

I know this wasn't the premise of the argument, but I'm to lazy to jump below D2's comment below and just speaking for myself as a person. I came from the MS DOS 6.22 days and 3.1 with 1 monitor for years, 640x480 and moved up eventually to a 1024x768 monitor in 2001. When I learned u could use multiple video cards for multi monitor it was the coolest thing ever and I just kept expanding on the idea, same with cores doing more, in which I was in quads/dual before it was really useful, but knowing I had it for when it started to be, made it all the more easing on my soul.

think of it as getting a larger house for urself. Can you really use all the space w/ extra rooms etc? possibly but not to their full use depending on how big the house is, but say in the future that birth control fails or your overclock failed and there was spillage, and poof ur a daddy~, now you have a bigger place to raise more cores. ( and for good measure maybe you just wanted kids after all) [insert silicone lottery pun here]

I'm sick, and hella feverish, and hella congested...to the point it hurts, so honestly I'd say just ignore this post, because I'm haven't even been looking at the screen, I'm just laying on the desk w/ my head turned the other way waiting for the work day to be over...

I'll read this when I wake up sorry..

 

^ pretty much what she said. Essentially, I'd actually like 4 monitors as a minimum. Focus on primary gaming display, then three in surround for productivity (on a desktop, they'd be run via non-gaming cards as well to not interfere with the games rendered)

Only meant you keep far more tabs and things open than I do.

 

Meanwhile, it's at 100% humidity, 35 °C here, and even with CLU, my CPU and GPU are at 48 °C idle.

I wouldn't mind nine bezel-less monitors for a full-motion flight sim setup, though I get a feeling a couple of spherical projectors would do the job better.

 

Yes

 

Sounds like me! =D

While productivity would be amazing, gaming would be bad. Maybe 10 monitors... one for hard gaming, and another 9 for productivity =D

 

Just dropping this here. Early days.



http://valid.x86.fr/dzbv34

@Johnksss@iBUYPOWER how are you getting on with yours?

 

I haven't put mine in yet, because i'm still in Vegas for CES. My 7700K is in California waiting on me.

 

dayum that voltage is sweet! how stable is it? just for validation?

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OK, I am officially no longer a 'delid-virgin', popped two lids (6700K & 7700K) on one weekend...

EDIT: Shutout to James, his Rockit88 de-/re-lidder set works perfectly with both CPUs!
Sealer is drying now...

 

@Phoenix

i think it works



Here is the whole package kudos to mbk1969 from Guru3d.com source

i just opened the Install-STRService.ps1 with Powershell as admin, and it setup by itself, rebooted several times and looks like it sticks, Fallout 4 was smooth too so i guess it's working

+ i used bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes cause that prevents the hopping from 15ms to 0.5ms, i guess. The only issue i had with that command alone was that sometimes it was set to 0.5ms and sometimes 15ms, but with the service now it works 0.5ms out of the box

 

ha, was just about to ask which method u used! great to know the rockit88 also works on kaby lake i recommend his kits to anyone who plans to delid

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best thing ever that rockit88, the wait time was long but worth it

 

Just for validation

 

@Mr. Fox

No Windows 7 if you want a Kaby Flake:

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...or-fcbga-aka-bga.799156/page-10#post-10428079

 

yeah luckily we have the iGPU disabled in our taptops but that doesn't mean it'll work as it should. time to move to Windows 10 my snow friend

 

Tell this to bro Fox

 

I personally Love 10 now, though did I miss something or did intel release 2 mainstream CPU's w/o an E/X in between this time?

 

Broadwell-E came out after Skylake.

 

The complaint about 10 is that it is slower than 8.1 and 7. That is across the board (although an optimized win 10 custom build can beat an unoptimized win 7 in certain tests I've found). Further, the issue is with the Asimov telemetry snooping, the forced updates (all but win 10 enterprise), and the server self-healing which can reinstall components intentionally removed. This was coupled with the move to forcing a block update for win 7&8.1, and trying to force consumers to win 10 ahead of the end of life, including getting AMD and Intel on board...

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I was just in SoCal last two days. Should have tested it out for you.

 

There's also the fact that W10 breaks a lot of things on update frequently, and resets settings/policies on update and uncommonly on reboot, if secure boot is used you cannot install any unsigned driver, and the various bugs still existing like memory leaks that people keep running into. I've seen fresh installs break, even.

It's like the OS is still in beta.

 

Perpetual beta, which was their idea. Use the telemetry and user feedback "to continually improve" Windows! Ha! Have to keep polishing that turd. They plan on switching Microsoft to a service based OS, meaning that when your subscription is up, they can hold your documents hostage until you pay...

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Right. I can't use a perpetual beta. I don't enjoy running an update to find out it screwed with my OS install, and while I don't actually care about telemetry or not, I *DO* care deeply about the fact that it cannot be disabled given the tools in the OS. Give me a choice, and I'm fine. Give me no choice, and then sabotage all other options? I'm going to have problems with you forever.

As for that subscription based service... meh. That can sit right there.

 

That would be the last straw for me. I would never pay any subscription for their crappy OS's. I would switch to linux then and deal with whatever games & apps I can get to run. I am a "buy it once and user it forever" kinda guy, one of many reasons I won't use netflix and all those other subscriptions services.

 

This is why I bought enterprise, for the extra control I'm used to getting!

Well, start learning now. They've already floated the idea publicly, but it won't happen until between 2020 and 2023 (after the support period for win 7 and 8.1). That gives you 3-6 years to learn (which everyone should learn so they can give M$ the finger)! Office 365 was just to test the waters and they barely backtracked to allow office 2016 without a service contract (pressure from companies that say pay one and done, whereas a subscription did not work for them, along with security concerns, etc.).

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I moved to Windows 10 on day 1 as part of the Insider Program before it was RTM. I did the same thing with Windows 8. I am all for change when it is better. The problem is that Windows 10 is an inferior product (as was Windows 8.X) compared to Windows 7 (in many ways, not all). I am not willing to give up Windows 7 completely until Windows 10 is superior to it in all ways... which may never happen. So, I use both. I exploit each OS to the fullest of my ability and use whichever one produces the results I am looking for in the benchmark I am running. I will not use Windows 10 in the manner intended by Micro$loth because it is absolutely 100% unacceptable in its default configuration. Using it is downright unpleasant. It is an eyesore to look at, not to mention unsafe with all of the "official" Nazi spyware and viruses bundled with it.

 

I think that we can disable all their telemetry thingies.

What isn't possible right now tho is to make it fully stable.

At this point I'm not sure if it's the EC , windows install or Chromosomes that are wrong with my setup but I had a freak accident again where it rebooted after a 5 seconds freeze.

The only programs open were Atom - code text editor and ren'py which is stable on virutally everything. Atom might not be stable on everything, but it's a code text editor, it should be stable enough to not crash the OS man...

 

Micro$loth is just a lame outfit. They've never bothered fixing the RTC bug that started with Windows 8. I really have no respect left for them any more. They lost my faithful/respectful customer status when they released the Windows 8 abortion and left it screwed up and carried over the messed up filth to Windows 10. They basically ignore most of the pleas of their customers and Insider feedback and do whatever they feel like doing. So, now I just use their products however I see fit and I don't even care about any of the terms of the EULA because it requires so much of my time and effort to fix their messed up garbage.

It is getting to the point now that Windows 10 might as well be Linux, because it's a worthless piece of trash without end user mods and fixes. If end user support is the only way to make it acceptable, it should be free like Linux as well. We shouldn't have to pay for broken garbage.

 

But Linux can be madly hard to install and doesn't have some software like Adobe or madVR or Steam....

Really wish Windows would fix their things soon.

 

@Phoenix I expect you got your answers And yeah, The pastel toy OS users is the M$ Morons Guinea Pigs. And will be it forever

 

This actually is why, if moving to Linux, you have multiple OSes. Steam OS is Linux based. You still need to use a M$ emulation for many programs, but if more switch over to it, it will become better supported...

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I love Linux for what it is. It has far too many limitations and not enough of the software and programs that I love too much to give up. For that reason alone it will never make me totally happy. But, for a computer to do email and web browsing it is really as good as it gets. In that scenario it can 100% replace Micro$loth Windows. And @Georgel - most of the Ubuntu distros are super easy to install. Linux Mint is my favorite. It's awesome other than it cannot run all of the software I want to run. SLI support is absolutely horrible in Linux... probably because most Linux developers are either poor (financially) or not that much into gaming and overclocked benching. If my hobbies were different, I would have already abandoned Windows. I only use it because I have no better option available.

Gaming support is better than it has been, but still sorely lacking. I really hate most indie games, (primarily because most indie games are of a genre that I think sucks,) and there are very few titles that I enjoy playing that are available on Linux. There is simply not enough at this point to make switching an attractive option, but if that day ever comes I will kick the Redmond Nazis to the curb without batting an eye.

 

No, we actually cannot. We need to hack the OS to do so, with programs like Shutup 10.

The OS simply turns back on some things you disable with respect to privacy whenever it reboots. And it resets even more on update. Two days ago someone was annoyed in a tech chat because W10 updated and cleaned out his entire appdata folder. Like, he might as well had just done a factory reset, except his programs remained installed. But that's project data, save data for games, program setting data, etc. All sorts of stuff like that. I've also seen it reset power plan settings too.

If I need to hack* an OS to get it to behave, then the OS is dog feces, end of story. It doesn't matter whether or not I *need* to turn the things on or off... it's the fact that I cannot, especially when previous versions allowed me to, that is the stupid part. Simple.

*hack being defined as gaining unauthorized access to data/settings in a computer or program, in this case, the ability to turn on/off things properly at will.

This... is a bit putting the cart before the horse. It's not where an alternative exists, or things exist and people don't know about them, and we should be spreading things around. This is getting people to switch to an inferior solution in the hopes that this sparks it to improve. It's the same arguement I make when people still pine for AMD products on the basis of hating nVidia these days. When products were equivalent (or near so), I recommended AMD because that would help them improve, without causing a loss for the consumer. In this case, it's like telling someone who needs a GTX 1080 to buy a RX480 over a GTX 1080. They can't be compared, and while more people buying AMD (akin to using linux in this case) would likely give AMD the drive to make much better products in the future, it doesn't help the users now, and they're going to have a worse experience. As for "the 1080 costs more", linux is free, so it's a relevant arguement still =D.

If we want to kill M$ and W10, we need a 95% compatibility rate with Windows and its programs in another OS. 100% will never happen, I know this. But we need people to be able to use programs from many years ago, as well as current programs, with good compatibility. People need to essentially just switch. This also means DirectX needs emulating, or native running, on that other OS. Which can be a rather large problem (legally).

But without that, asking people to neuter or even destroy their own workflow just doesn't work.

 

Although I agree in part, let me further explain: M$ will get worse. It isn't an if, it is a when. Now I agree development needs made, and I'm also not saying abandon it entirely now. There is still time before bailing is necessary. What I'm saying is people can take the time to start learning what is and is not capable on Linux. In that way, it isn't the same as recommending the 480 over the 1080. It is saying be prepared.

As to the gaming point, more games are supporting Vulkan, which is opencl. In that regard, and Sony and M$ using AMD solutions in their consoles and support for Vulkan growing, it makes no sense not to start exploring options! (Especially as there is a learning curve and if you never start, you'll pay for the convenience of the piece of **** OS M$ puts out over having to learn quickly later on).

Currently, I have to modify the **** out of win 10 to make it more secure, gutting the telemetry, self-healing, and other "features before install. Steam, which is Linux OS, works primarily with Vulkan support, which has helped development. I need to see how far it has come (been a long while since last I looked at it). But if no one uses it, the vicious circle continues. This is why I push starting to learn, not a full jump ship. Over years of casual use, when the time comes, if possible, you just make the switch.

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What bothers me is, why hasn't some group of folks come up with an alternative OS that can run most windows programs? Either a fully tweaked linux install or even something different? I mean some of the free(or really cheap) stuff out there now is crazy good, and I know there are lots of pretty smart folks out there that could do a larger project like an OS.

Heck I bet many of us would do it just to dump windows. Of course I would pay for it too, not expecting it to be free. Free sounds good, until you see that you have to research it just to install it, and only to find out it doesn't support features and programs that you want to use. "Flynn OS" (Tron reference)

 

Building an OS is far from a simple task. We're talking on the order of millions of dev hours. Then there's all sorts of issues like DX being proprietary ruling out a ton of games, esoteric Windows APIs that have to be duplicated, and a whole bunch of other headaches, and even if things work there's no guarantee they'll function at anywhere near full performance. It's simply not feasible.

 

Weird I guess, I noticed the diff in the beginning and went back to 7 for a bit, but after a while and a few updates later including drivers that were more made for 10, I saw the performance increase on 10 over 7. I disabled most of the annoying things, as well as hardware updates which u don't need a program for luckily. Just like any OS it needs its tweaking + for those that believe in tin foil hats ( which I could give 2 AMD's about) there's 3rd party stuff. I've noticed search works normally now even if Cortana's on birth control. I run 8.1 on my clevo though and don't really notice a hit to either. I do prefer native support over software though.

If MS doesn't drop the whole, fire the decent programmers left and just hire ones we can train instead to save money motto, Windows will def fail. As for cloud based services there's no way they can get that through w/ the amount of areas w/o internet and or subscription services based on bandwidth etc, that'd take another decade to roll out at the minimum.

Seeing people saying they'll swap to linux or apple (insert Michael Knight ref here) makes me laff though, (mainly apple but still odd people would punish themselves by having to work harder to make their current items work on a diff OS but I won't contest feels ) kinda like people that claimed they'd move to Canada or some other country if Trump made it. In the end if it works we'll use it, early adopters will hate life the most, but thats literally the path most companies are taking now, release an AMD product and wait for the community to tell them how to turn it into a better product. Millions gained for a turd, to turn out a slightly polished turd the next release years later to make the people feel like they were listened to. Even Wacom recently took that up.

Soldering, turds, companies closing in the US to move to other countries to be run by undereducated employees ( not the employees fault just lack of education ) biggest issue is the lack of demand and feedback for the most part, tons of people complain but just not to the right areas I think, alot of people just quit or bail out to something else, and its tiresome dealing w/ crap companies that literally dgaf, though I really feel if somehow more tech media was involved a bigger message could be sent out and picked up by bigger media. However as long as we have retards out there running review site like everythings all chipper and explaining how mac and PC are the same despite being 2 generations diff in parts, or that linux can run " anything flawlessly that a pc can " or that u don't need "X to game noone should, etc " and continually get paid by companies to farm stupidity and ignorance, this craps gonna continue.

Don't get me started on the pansies we have with this generation of kids that can't even lift 1-2 lbs w/o complaining they have a hernia..."dear god if its not mac book air weight then we need a mass genecide!" You can't escape it either, even though I moved over to the art community it just gets worse.. people complaining that a tablet w/ a quadro in it , skylake, and everything else running a 4k screen @ 16" only gets 4 1/2 hours of full use, saying they're mac book gets like 10 hours? Makes me LITERALLY want to perform open heart surgery on them just so I can remove the radeon that was shoved so far up their ass that the overheating from it caused their blood to boil and make them retarded!

Morale of the rant/story? Tech Society today is numb to the idea of learning. That's whats killing us.

You wanna change things? Bring up hype, Start up a youtube channel and start bashing the idiot sites and reviews by listing their reviews and breaking it down, while at the same time ( in comedic angry form ) explain why they're wrong, and point out the effort given, break it down and explain the real #'s
and get people up to speed. People these days love a good drama or w/e, smarter sites will pick up on this and probably do the same. There's a plethora of information out there, but its just so far spread people don't know whats right from wrong, to speculated, to smut.

Even Linus listens to D2 sometimes on LTT.

Give them the facts, then give them the pros/cons with real usage scenarios, because the biggest issue people have ( myself concluded and D2 can write a biblomatic study based of the amount of times I've been on the fence about 2 parts that do nearly the same damn thing ) is X vs X and why, because they have 0 clue and minorities + numbers tell them that X should be better.

We've got some great names in the community, image if they teamed up and had their own section/site along w/ a youtube channel giving off the information people could really need, and discrediting sites that give bad info w/ factual information as well as reasons WHY its being discredited ( poof trolls depleted )

See what you started @ajc9988 @D2 Ultima I was only trying to add my 2 cents about windows wtf, stop making me go off track!

Easier for a group to do what they did w/ older versions of windows and just actually improve it, less time than designing an OS that could work w/ millions of companies and drivers, along w/ a standard for it.

 

Exactly. It's not that it can't be done, but... all those Linux creators out there for example could get together and do it. But they'd need to actually work together, and optimize, and work on compatibility. But from what I can tell, they're all too far up their own meowmix to do so. If only, eh?

No. Do it more. MORE.

 

You seriously don't want to revive that version of me..