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I have to admit quadros are not my speciality but my understanding is that they allowed full 10bit support in all applications.

This was coming up in HDR video rending where a quadro was needed before to be able to even start thinking about it.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11893399

Shame I couldn't crack the 13's (Windows 10) - Max Fans sitting on the desk. temps 74 degree's on air @ 5Ghz

Still not running right. I can't seem to get more than 81W to the CPU. HWinfo64 and other CPU HW monitors are screwing hard with CPU performance. If anyone knows a solution I'd really appreciate it.

also

7700k Delid Picture and Prep I did below.. Enjoy!!!
@skyFox90

Spoiler

http://imgur.com/a/BWHWI?
[\spoiler]

 

Only a touch more @ 4.9 ...

 

can you check if you have GSYNC in NVCPL and if your brightness FN keys are actually changing the brightness bro? GSYNC is gone for me and brightness no longer work

 

Gsync was gone for me too but it was due to 7700k not being supported. It was strange. Did you mod the driver like I Prema was talking about in the other thread..

 

I don't know how to mod drivers bro and this was never the case before, only after the latest Prema BIOS update this happened

@Prema

 

As it is of now. I can only use 376.48 with a modded nvcvi.inf to match my GPU's Hardware ID - which I was under the impression this was an exclusive problem to 7700k. I can't install previous drivers. I actually had to flash twice to actually get G-sync to work which was odd.

 

pls tell me how how to mod teh driver and hook me up with the modded INF

Im a noobie with this

PS: I am your friend

 

Check Premas posts, he posted the modded INF in another thread.

 

oh I have that actually, one moment

 

Of course Bro except Prema did it for me. I haven't dont it since the m18x days and it's changed a little. Did you see the ongoing conversation on the BIOS test page?
I think I know what to do actually so I can do it for you. Basically replace my Hardware ID with your GPU hardware ID in the nvcvi.inf file that Prema linked to and that should do the trick.
I can't try anything right now because I shut everything down and it's 3:15am and already under blankets hitting the hay. I'll try and do it for you the very next and first thing when I start up my machine in the morning.

 

nevermind, that was to fix the issue for Kaby Flake, it didn't do anything for me

 

http://news.wisc.edu/for-first-time-carbon-nanotube-transistors-outperform-silicon/

Anyone seen this yet? I think it's pretty cool.

 

Hi Guy,

I have installed in the notebook.
They are supposed to distribute heat 100 times higher than copper wires.
Unfortunately, the powder has a consistency that only allowed me to attach the carbon nanotubes to a heat-conducting adhesive and fix it on the heat pipe.
Perhaps the place is unfavorable. With me it has brought nothing.
Maybe you have to place the carbon nanotubes somewhere else?
Is like a black powder and expensive at the same time.
Maybe it will serve as a coating or as a power supplier in the future.
The parts also have high current loadability.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/141161494549?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

It´ s the future i think.

 

Umm this is more about the future of using carbon nanotubes to manufacture processors instead of using silicon.

 

So, figured out my ram errors. Was setting the tREFI too high. So now I've got 4000 CL16 20-20-40-310 2T. Funny enough, my 3733 CL14 17-17-36-280 2T is about equal for some benchmarks (but SPi32M says the 4000 is better by over 10 seconds)... Now if only I could get 4133+ stable on this board...

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...then you would be off to get 4266 stable good job there buddy

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Can anyone confirm if Windows 7 is working with Kaby Lake with the new BIOS update on the P75xDM2, P775DM3, P870DM2/3? I would like to pick one up from SiliconLottery for the improved performance/watt and better overclocking on less volts. I have read that it works fine. One report stated that the HD Graphics didn't work, but, we have iGPU disabled so that would not matter.

Do not reply to me telling me Microsoft doesn't support it (FUD statement). I am not interested in "upgrading" to Windows 10.

 

Actually, for W10 that is a really amazing Physics score. In Windows 7 that will probably be over 14K. I have the highest 3DMark 11 score for Windows 10 for 6700K and 1080 SLI and it is in 21st place with everything from 1st to 20th place being Windows 7. This is why I was not willing to go with 7700K until it was confirmed that the lack of support for Windows 7 was proven to be a malicious rumor to prop up the Liars from the Redmond Mafia.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11865170

http://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode...=0&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Notebook)

@Phoenix would have no reason to mod the display drivers if he has a 6700K CPU. I need to ask @Prema (or find out by looking once I have 6700K) what needs to be updated. It seems really strange that the GPU hardware ID would change with a different CPU.

@TBoneSan did you try a @j95 mod? He and I both only use desktop drivers now for everything. Since the INF only includes the GPU hardware ID, it is possible that a mod might not be needed using that approach. The desktop driver INF is totally agnostic to the system hardware ID.

 

Yes, it has already been confirmed, at least with @Prema BIOS. That may not be the case with a stock Clevo/Sager BIOS... not sure on that part. Need to ask a reseller about that part. Enthusiasts are using Windows 7 with Kaby Lake and @Eurocom Support has already confirmed it with the new version of the Tornado F5 as well. This is the only basis under which I would have considered purchasing Kaby Lake. Otherwise, that would have been a deal-breaker for me.

 

*fixed

 

Without the Prema BIOS, it should work if UEFI can be disabled. With the Prema BIOS, it will work in UEFI boot mode if Launch CSM is enabled (Launch CSM is not configurable in stock).

So, if someone could check if the stock Kaby Lake update image can have UEFI boot disabled, then it will work.

 

You can still do that part. I ran Windows 7 with stock BIOS and so have others by changing OS Select from Windows 8+ to Others or however that was worded. There is BIOS code that needs to be updated. Kaby Lake would not work with earlier @Prema BIOS mods, nor would it work with previous Tornado F5 BIOS.

 

What part are you referring to? Disable UEFI boot? Windows 7 does not boot in UEFI without Launch CSM for VGA since vga.sys does not have UEFI GOP support. It should boot in pure UEFI with NVIDIA drivers installed, but you will have no fallback if you need to boot without the NVIDIA driver.

 

Windows boots with UEFI as long as the video is Legacy. If you change the stock BIOS to the OS select other than Windows 8+ it changes the settings behind the scenes and Windows 7 works. I know of multiple people with the P870DM-G and P870DM3 that installed Windows 7 with stock BIOS. @Trafficante and @Swick1981 are at least two that did this with their P870DM3. You have to format the drives as GPT and boot install Windows 7 in EMS Support Mode by spamming the F5 key before Windows Setup starts loading files. Your installation media also has to be created for use with GPT drives or it will not install. You do not need @Prema BIOS for that. You do have to inject the USB3.0 drivers using Intel's tool for that purpose or the installation will usually fail. If you have the drivers on an internal SATA drive you can F6 load them like RST drivers during Windows Setup.

Speaking of 7700K... just arrived.

Spoiler: 7700K CPU

I also (right now) mysteriously have Windows 7 loading with UEFI video mode by using the Windows 10 bootloader to load Windows 7. It's the first time I have been able to do this... ever. If I use the Windows Legacy Boot menu (dual boot installation) it will freeze, but if I disable Windows 10 Legacy Boot Menu it is working.

 

@Mr. Fox I just ordered one of the 5.1GHz ones from SL. I will return if it ends up not working. If it does, I will delid and CLU it. Eurocom is offering the X4E2 with Kaby Lake and Windows 7 as an option.


Now to flash the stock BIOS update.

 

@Prema BIOS is almost ready (should be any day now) so you will have unlocked BIOS with Kaby Lake support for your EVOC machine anyway.

 

Umm , wouldn't it have been a better idea to just roll the dice with a standard one from Amazon or something ? Since most of them can do at least 5Ghz?

 

Depends on your history with luck with silicone lol. Even I'm contending that my luck may run out w/ Skylake-EX

 

@bloodhawk what is Amazon's CPU return policy?

 

True that, I actually have one sitting on my desk at home. Waiting on some magic dust to come my way.

But my 6700k is a decent clocker, even the 6850k in my desktop is a decent one. The first one I got from Newegg, was piss poor with uneven core temps and high voltage requirements at anything over 4.3Ghz.
The new one I got from Amazon for $150 less, can do 4.5Ghz at less voltage lol.

Unlike Newegg, if you have Prime you can pretty much return it without reason. My friend had a 6700k which ran rather hot at stock. And he returned it for a different one, stating that the stock voltage was way higher than needed and doesn't overclock well.
I'm not sure if that was very ethical or.if it's a valid reason, but they didn't quite care.
Unlike my 6850k that I returned to Newegg, after arguing for almost 30 mins over 2 cores running 15-17 C hotter than the other 4.

 

I would wait for a larger sample size before purchasing. Right now, only so many have been tested. After more have passed through binners' hands, then I'd pay for a binned one. Just debating getting one at all, depending on a couple factors, including how Ryzen overclocks...

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Or snake charm an intel employee hue ~

 

@bloodhawk I don't have Amazon Prime. Personally, I spent a little extra to avoid having to deal with the disappointment and the hassle with returning to someone who didn't have a return policy, which I know SL does.

As a small update, I had to temporary install Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB because Windows 7 gives a STOP 0x000000A5 with UEFI boot disabled on this BIOS. Will just have this installed until Prema's BIOS comes out.

 

Yeah less of headache for sure.

Totally get it, if I didn't have a separate system I would have done the exact same thing.

 

Ok, so this is off the shelf at Microcenter.
This took all of 2 minutes to test. Who wanna buy it? LOL

 

If you can run rog benchmark for one hour at 5.2/1.44 according to silicon lottery you can sell it for 599.99! Edit 679.99!

 

When they do 1 hour on a laptop, then i'll go with that. Until then, that's a big 10/4 negative.


side note:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11368724

 

Something is wrong with the physics score. Even with WinCrap X. 12955 is a way to low for 5.0GHz or have I missed something? Remember he only pushed the custom physics test (I know the physics score can be a bit lower with SLI in a fully test).
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11653576
Almost 13500 physics with 48x and Windoze X

 

@Mr. Fox @bloodhawk ok, all setup on Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB ready for Kaby Lake with the new BIOS and ready for some @Prema BIOS magic.

I'll get Windows 7 once the Prema mod is installed since you can configure the Launch CSM for UEFI to make it work.

 

First complete run. @ 5.1 ghz
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11368777

 

This one actually shows the clocks and a Prema Mod bios in full effect.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11368833

 

NOICE!
Told you so brother...now you are a believer. Now give us the 5.5G we spoke about. I believe in you!

 

5.1 yes!!, but that 5.5 we will need to do a few things more. LOL

Side note: Cruising around in windows at 5.1 ghz and it's benchable! So I guess you can get a 5.1 ghz chip from the Silicon Lottery this time and mean it!

 

If 5.5G would be Plu'n'Play speed as 5G is, which anyone with Prema Mod & 7700K will be able to do in SLI, than I would have talked to a random user and not you, Sir!

 

ROTF! This is true.

Edit: time to boot windows 7 and see what happens....

 

@Prema, what would I gain by switching to Prema BIOS when it is released? With the stock BIOS and updated EC I'm using from HID I get zero throttling (only tested to 4.8 so far). I'm not a super big tweaker, just overclock for fun and try to be the best (after I exclude @Mr. Fox and a @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and others from the results of course).

I'm just curious if there is anything else for me to gain, and I really do not want to lose anything, my system is running so darn good I don't want to do anything to disrupt it. I'm too afraid to even try using CCC since I do not want to cause any issues.

I recently stopped using the BIOS for overclocking and started using Throttestop, so I don't need those controls anymore either. Memory appears to be solid again at XMP2 3000mhz.

 

If you are not interested in 7700K (throttles to 4.5Ghz with Clevos stock BIOS/EC in SLI) or upgrade the GPUs in future (Mod has future Plug'n'Play support build in), don't want your LID lights static or keyboard lights white by default, not have updated CPU, SATA, ME & base code, have proper 100Mhz base line, use an eGPU or any of the other 100+ new options for security, performance and power gains/savings (4.8Ghz ≠ 4.8Ghz), in an update you are entitled to for free, resulting in a higher resell value and have EVOCs awesome boot logo and representing your brand of choice directly in 3DM result code, then just leave it as it is.

EDIT: I understand that you are happy now and all the 'never touch a running system' philosophy (been there, done that), but if it can get even better without any effort, then why not, right?

This is not just a joke or some sort of sales pitch. We (the magnificent 7 tester and I) put two months of work in and I honestly believe that the final Mod has turned into something, that we can all be really happy about!

 

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