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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I'm still waiting for one of the Prema Phoenix machines to show up.
     
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  2. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Due to the complex nature of the logo, local (NA) printing specialists dropped the ball (after wasting a bunch of LIDs) and Clevo factory has a minimum order of 500 units which need to be fronted.
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    ....


    It's times like these I keep around the noooooooooo button.

     
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    Porter Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thank you sir for the fast reply. I truly did not mean any disrespect. I was really hoping there was some hidden gains with the GPUs or something. Or even some CPU gains that I was unaware of.

    For the record I really love the blue and green default lighting :p after updating I would hate to go to the white only, and hate to have to install CCC. I guess I'd take the latter if it won't mess up my system, at least then I could control max fans from the desktop at least. I really miss being able to do that.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Ignore the graphics score (still stock air cooling), but I want to see the 7700K beat this CPU score on time spy sometime (6637):
    upload_2017-1-9_19-46-52.png
     
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    Q937 Notebook Deity

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    I mean BIOS logo. I ordered from HID, but I'm down for floating some extra money your way for a custom logo.
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    Are you also going to bless us with a solution for P775? :)
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    I offered you dickbutt.
     
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    Q937 Notebook Deity

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    Prema BIOS, not stock, goober.
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    You're right Paps. During that bench it was only pulling around 85W from the CPU which isn't enough.
     
  12. LunaP

    LunaP Dame Ningen

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    I literally pictured ur avatar saying this and lost it lmao.
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Hey that's Neko invoker yo. . :3
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    interesting tidbit of info from SL forums, showing how much of a temperature drop one can expect from delidding and going with LM between die/IHS:

    Ivy Bridge: 10°C to 25°C
    Haswell: 10°C to 25°C
    Devil's Canyon: 7°C to 15°C
    Broadwell: 8°C to 18°C
    Skylake: 8°C to 18°C
    Kaby Lake: 13° to 25°C

    so according to this, delidding kaby lake is an absolute MUST, more so than all other mainstream cpu models before :)
     
  15. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yep can confirm that. Was hitting 98c with 5Ghz before, now after delidding it's sitting around 80c under constant load.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    what kinda specs did your machine have again? :D
     
  18. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    @Prema, I have to ask, what are you going to do with your W230S machine now that you've gotten a P870?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Model: P870DM3-G
    LCD: 3K & 4K AUO
    GPU: 2 x 1080-G
    CPU: 6700K & 7700K
    RAM: 2 x 8GB 3000Mhz & 4 x 16GB 3200Mhz
    PSU: 2 x 330W & 780W
    SSD: 1 x 256GB SM961
    (yeah I know, THX@Samsung's exploding phones for a 3 month delay on the 960Pro)

    Will keep it as long as it runs, perfect travel partner!
    I've done the entire P870DMx Mod on the W230SS. ;)

    Told you in September that the new 'portable models' won't have a 1060, so yeah...
     
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  20. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    but how is the p650 not portable?
     
  21. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Thinking more of the 11-13" put it in your pocket category. 14" is already border-line.
    Who needs an additional 15" if they already sport a 17" with 4 times the power...

    Usually it's either one large plus one small or a single medium sized system to have all bases covered.
     
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  22. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I like having big guns wherever I may roam. Rule #1 - always take an RPG to a knife fight. It's far more efficient, causes more damage, and you get less blood on your hands.

    For email and web on the go, a rooted Amazon Kindle Fire with Google launcher is good enough whenever "ultra portable" actually matters, and for less than $50 USD the price is hard to argue with. For the cost of a few day's worth of lunch money it doesn't need to be anything special. With a $5 faux leather cover it handles double-duty as a coaster for cold drinks or a fly swatter. It's nice to see a proper implementation of BGA as well... a fitting platform for throw-away tech filth.
     
  23. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Careful...if they're too thin they don't work well as door stops
     
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    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I actually love my modded Kindle Fire. I would not use it for a door stop. It's the perfect companion on the porcelain throne, or for a quick Google without having to use a computer. With a screen that is much larger, it's not nearly as miserable as trying to use a tiny smartphone. By phone size standards, my LG Vista is quite large, (some folks even think too large,) but not big enough screen-wise to actually enjoy using it. But, these are not devices to be taken seriously. They are throw-away tech at throw-away tech prices.
     
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    Q937 Notebook Deity

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    I picked up a Lenovo Windows netbook for $100 to go with my P870. It gets around 7-8 hours of battery life and runs productivity software just fine, and I won't be all that pissed when it eventually dies on me because I can just grab another one.
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Guess I better come clean.. I've adopted wifies Lenovo 10 tablet into the stable.
    Still when it dies.. it's door stop duty. No rest for the wicked :D
     
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  27. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    After the book. A lot of people should learn from you!! +rep
     
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  28. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    how did you find one so cheap?

    At 300$ price point, the cheapest laptops are quite expensive in Romania.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Buy used one. Don't waste unnecessary $€£ on filth!! Cheaper the better. A smaller loss when the soldered hardware goes into flames :D Then start all over again with same cheapo Junk!!
     
  30. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    could we please copy paste these posts over at AW? *rofl*

    #ClevoMasterraceFTW ^^
     
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    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    See if they're eligible in the benchmark thread :p
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Question ( @Prema): does the Prema bios allow for AVX negative offset, a feature of Kaby lake?

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
  33. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    dont quote me on this, but i think i remember him mentioning it being included :)
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I think they have more than enough with bending the third legs on the amazing Tripod cpu heatsink :oops: So the soldered i7-6700hq can manage to boost up to 45w without overheating with the well known windoze <blue picture> in the end. Some will experience the new <Green pict> :)

    Yes, this is confirmed :)
    Very nice scores :) How much offset voltage do you need for 5.1 and 5.2GHz?
     
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    Johnksss .

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    @Papusan That offset thing changes after every few reboots so it's ever changing on my system. I'm averaging around 1.38V to 1.45V at the moment.

    Edit:
    5.3 ghz Knocked off.
    http://valid.x86.fr/b7bjkf
    Getting closer to that goal of 5.5. :D
    [​IMG]
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    how? seriously, i mean....HOW? :eek: :rolleyes: :p
     
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    Kaby seems to be quite a bit better than Skylake
     
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    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    I won't have Kaby until February most likely but can't wait!

    4.9Ghz was the highest I was able to hit on my 6700K in the P870DM.
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    So for sustaining those clocks, are you just dialing in the appropriate voltages in the BIOS with high power / current limits? Or did it need a lot of fine tuning?
    Also I'm assuming speedstep and cstates are on?
     
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    Same here. I was just starting to getting 5ghz stable, but grabbed a 7700K off the shelf. Glad I did.

    This stuff is really not that complicated. And i can do it with just using xtu and throttle stop with ccc installed. It's when you guys start trying to overthink it that it gets harder. And running a 7700k is easier than a 6700k as well. Could be that 4.5 ghz turbo. That turning everything off and running redline on everything is not for me. I like my stuff to drop when nothing is going on. :) So c states and speedstep stay enabled.
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Yeah, learnt that when is started using TS, that a simpler approach worked much better.
    I perosnally always have Speedstep and Cstates enabled as well. But I remember that on certain architectures, having them disabled helped a bit.
     
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  43. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    And further nice score :)
    I forgot to ask how high package power is with 5.2GHz in Cinbench. Maybe you haven't monitored yet. But still interesting to know. Thanks :)
     
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    Johnksss .

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    This is true. It's why I use to say...1 size does not fit all. You have to adjust accordingly.

    About 120W
     
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    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    Can someone upload the latest CPU-Z? I have 1.7.5 and pressing validate doesn't do anything. Also I can't download anything from their website for some reason.
     
  46. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I'm on my phone. Try http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/cpu_z.html
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    @Mr. Fox ++++ All socket power enthusiasts.... THIS ↓↓↓↓↓↓ IS WHAT EVERY SINGLE ODM/OEM SHOULD DO... YESTERDAY!! FULLY UPGRADEABLE LAPTOPS IN ANY FORM OR SHAPE!! They forgot the wifi, LOL.
    I love this picture. Pictures can tell more than words. I really needed to say this :D Sorry my english, but I think you all understand what I meant :p
    [​IMG]

    Expected results from powerhouse, and NO JOKEBOOK's in any form or shape can do this. Thanks bro @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER for showing all people what NORMAL laptops can do!!
    [​IMG]
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    So.... I don't exactly like being a stick in the mud, but if on 7700K the delid offers more improvement than ever does this mean like... the paste used is worse?
     
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    lctalley0109 Notebook Evangelist

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    Question. I upgraded my Sager bios to the newest bios and installed the 7700k but computer is just starting and rebooting never even reaching the bios. Should I have pulled the CMOS batter or what step did I miss?
     
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    EmberV Notebook Evangelist

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    @lctalley0109 try putting back in a Skylake chip and holding Fn+D while pressing power button without AC adapter?
     
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