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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Free shipping, not sure on sales tax... Probably depends on state to whether they have to collect...

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    I already got mine from Amazon on Saturday FOR $350+Tax ($380 I think).
    Just waiting on the Z270 board and the second 7700k, assembling a system for someone.
    The better sample however will go in my DM1.

    In CA , they do charge taxes. I have that Newegg premiere thing, which saves shipping though. Otherwise you can Pay $10 for same day delivery.
     
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    The gift must be worth under $125 for this in Norway. And I can tell yooou. The government greedy employees idiots on the Norwegian border will check what the gift contains and check the normal price. Hail Norway :mad:
     
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    Love the way you think there! :)

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    haha! Well she don't care about any Overclocking..sooo...
     
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    Either way, this is the cost of your service (I take it you are otherwise just helping out a friend)...

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    Yeah a colleague at work.
     
  8. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    I got a special discount deal on Amazon with zero percent interest. That's why I decided not to wait until I could actually afford it like I originally planned to.
     
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    Ah. Makes sense. Thanks for explaining though, that was slowly killing me on the inside.
     
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    Well, seeing how low I can go, this is with stock voltage. Benching at 5.0GHz with stock voltage. Under load it is 1.293V.

    [​IMG]

    http://valid.x86.fr/5b9mnt
    [​IMG]
     
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    How is the max temp with 50x and Wprime 1024M? Have you not tested yet? + needed voltage.

    Edit. How is the voltage fluctuations in bench? Big variation?
     
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  12. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    what happens if you manually set the ring to 50x min/max?
     
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    @Mr. Fox
    That load thing changes with what you're benching.
     
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    No, haven't had time yet. Cooling is a challenge. 7700K is hotter than 6700K.
    It was stable on everything with +0.35V offset, so now I am seeing how low I can go on stock voltage at 5.0GHz before moving to 5.1GHz with +0.35V to find out if that works.
     
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    Thanks... What about the cooling if you run same stock clock speed as 6700K? Will 7700K run hotter? And See edit post. What about the voltage fluctuations in fully bench?

    Edit: And I expect the Kaby lake i7 BGA Crap will boil in the flimsy thin jokebook's with a small Oc around 4.0-4.3GHz if Kaby lake isn't cooler than Skylake
     
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    I was about to mention that. Realbench can require more voltage than many other benches! That is why it is used, because the voltage for that bench will be close to what an average person will need for regular stability. Optimizing for less intensive workloads or to maximize the multiplier on any given bench isn't the same. To do a one to one comparison, you'd need to run realbench at least once and see what the minimum voltage you can use is or run the realbench stress test for an hour...

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    Interesting, because 4.345 in Wprime32 is pretty high.
     
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    Exactly. IIRC I managed 4.139 @ 4.9Ghz. and you guys did even lower.
     
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    I just turned it on and ran this just to see something. No AC.
    [​IMG]
     
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    outstanding! Give @Papusan a 7700K CPU and watch him demolish the world getting a 3.xxx speed on wPrime32 :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    Indeed!
     
  22. Papusan

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    Nice score :) How much can you shave of in max temp with your AC unit? And it would be nice to know how voltage works in the bench(voltage fluctuations).
     
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    There is some sort of delay when running that bench with a 7700K, so i can now see why Brother Fox score is lower at that clock.

    Maybe 10 to 30C off that temp of 95C

    As to the last part I'll let you know in a few...

    Edit:
    Windows 7 it will run around 1.285 under load.
    windows 10 it runs it in the 1.3+ range.
     
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    Thanks sir.
    If you go into Hwbot you will see a few high numbers in 32M with 50x as well. Around 4.35 sec
     
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    That will change quite a bit once everyone starts making the switch.
     
  26. Mr. Fox

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    Yeah, it's puzzling how the Cinebench scores are nice and the wPrime 32M scores really suck. I haven't figured that out yet. I was getting the same wPrime 32M at 4.7-4.8GHz with 6700K.

    Those benchmarks I posted earlier are Windows 10, not Windows 7.
     
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    It's because of the delay. Right when you click the run link the first 8 threads should zip by, but instead they kind of like...saunter by, then the rest of the test speeds up.

    Edit: I get the same thing under windows 7 as well.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I can do a quick wP32 @ 5G, what should be the score?
     
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    Looking for low 4 sec, under 4.5, most likely 4.1-4.35. If under 4.1, share your settings...

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    Yup, exactly
     
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    I'm going to see if enabling the watchamacallit crap (Speedboost-?) in the BIOS changes it. If not, then it's still the gimmick I always thought it was.

    Edit: Speed Shift
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Stock W10 installation, no changes except MS spy stuff disabled. 7700K@5G:

    [​IMG]

    It does getting 'stuck' as John described...
     
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    Not for me... es lo mismo - wPrime 32M was no faster with DDR4-3200, so that's not it.
    As always... Speed Shift does absolutely nothing that I can measure... worthless gimmick.
    Will disable all non-Micro$lop services and see if it drops to 4.1

    [​IMG]
     
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    So, my settings for some benches:
    Run msconfig.exe, set to diagnostic startup, hit apply, go to startup tab, activate whatever services or programs needed (futuremark, etc.), reboot.

    Then start the program, open task manager, set priority to realtime. If you care, you can also change the Windows performance and appearance settings to best performance (that hurts futuremark scores in my experience).

    Run the bench, then open CPU-z, ctrl+ print screen, open paint, ctrl+v, save image.

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    Yep around there, but in reality it should be lower than this...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Just ran it a couple more times with same settings and it dropped a little:

    [​IMG]

    Left the cache at 42, let me see if OCing that too changes anything.
     
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    try 5.1ghz
    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    How high can you go up with cashe for +50x? Is it around 47x as some said(bug?). Or maybe I have missed? Try maxed cashe with 32M. Highest possible cashe will scale well with good ram speed.
     
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    I think it sits about 3 multipliers below the higher you go...speculation of course because not everything needs a high cache
    Mine will go as high as 49X with cpu sitting at 5.2Ghz. And give me a worse score.
     
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    Try it with maxed clock speed. Run Wprime 32 a few times. Lock Wprime and open up and run again. You can sometimes get Higher score :)
     
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    Almost Kaby Lake time...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yep. I spoke on this in the 940xm days and all through the different cpus. :) No one seems to remember these things.

    Edit checked cache again, but it seems that you need a serious amount of voltage once you try to run it at 50X
     
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    Yeah different times now. Not so many bench now. The damn BGA flowing all over the web. And people forget :)
     
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    OK, cache does literally nothing here to the result. Doesn't matter if 42, 45 or 50 just adds more heat...


    EDIT:

    Here is 5.1G (W10):

    [​IMG]
     
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    Damn I haven't 7700K :(
     
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    Exactly! That's why I quit trying to explain this stuff.... I just ran 5ghz Cache and it made my score lower. It's good for somethings yes, but not all.
     
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    My cache with 7700K never runs at the speed I set it to for some reason. It is always around 200-300MHz less than core, whereas with 6700K if I set it to 80 it always was identical to core ratio. I have tried using 80 or same as core ratio and it is always the same. At 5.0GHz it never exceeds 47x and at 5.1GHz it moves to 48x.
     
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    Here's this...
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    The range between minimum and maximum cache multi can not be greater than 39. So if you want to set 'Cache Ratio' higher than 47 you have to set 'Ring Min OC Ratio' value to 11 (or if you want higher) in order to reach 50 on the upper end.
     
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