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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Prema BIOS 4.5 GHz / 4.1 GHz Cache Ratio Overclock + 3000 MHz memory overclock settings (RAM overclock is only for those with a 2800 MHz. kit and there is a risk that your system will not boot requiring an NVRAM reset so please don't touch the RAM settings if you don't know what you're doing)

     
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    nice work! reputation given~!
     
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    Yup first I stayed in Arlington for 1 month then I studied my junior year of high school in Suwanee,GA

    This was all back in 2000. The USA is the best country in the world y'all don't know what heaven you're in
     
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    LOL come stay in San Francisco. You will not feel the same after paying rent here.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I have used my P870 + my mod U3 for about two months now. Thought it was about time to change the homemade <nylon stocking> fan filter on U3. There is not much dust there so I just put a new one outside the old filter :D. I don't need to worry about cleaning the inside of the machine, as my homemade filter takes all the dust that is on the way into the machine... Although I have 2 children who messes up at home, dog and cat + smoke and dust from the wood stove(my wife will kill me if I don't fire up every day, HaHa), it is very rare that I need to clean the inside of my computer. Thanks to my homemade free filter made of nylon stockings from my dear wife :bigyes:, LOL
    I know this is a OC thread, but my U3 fan mod fit well in this thread, HaHa

    upload_2016-4-8_6-9-13.png upload_2016-4-8_6-10-33.png

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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Sweet, but they will never check the result and validate it unless you do that yourself.
     
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    What do you mean? Sorry my English :D
    Dang. Hwbot.org is down :eek:
     
  12. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    De vil aldri sjekke resultatet. Bedre du gjør en ny en...

    Hwbot is down because John started benching again... :D
     
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    I still do not understand what you mean? Scoring is registered in my acount that I can understand http://valid.x86.fr/rc65at Or something missing?
     
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    But what about the "validated" stamp on CPU-Z? That seems to be missing on your side. Check Mr. Fox' CPU-Z Validation.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    CPU-Z Validation:

    - submit button = valid
    - save validation file & upload = not valid (will always show as "unckecked")

    Here submitted 25th March:

    http://valid.x86.fr/nmakkq

    Still not checked...
     
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    so after a day with the 3000 MHz RAM overclock, it is very stable, played Need For Speed for 40 mins and the FPS didn't dip to 5 FPS as it did previously with my Samsung 2133 MHz to 2400 MHz overclock so this is very stable
     
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    Awesome work! Now that you know you can reach 3000MHz and can maintain stability, I was wondering if you'd be willing to share your timings and all other specifications of the RAM (perhaps with a dump via thaiphoon burner, XMP profile, and/or images). My 2666MHz ram is OC'd to 2800MHz with no issues, but I feel I can (or attempt to atleast) go further since it's only over by about 144MHz. I just don't know which variables to tweak...before it usually ends with me having to do an NVRAM reset but since our RAM is spec'd so similar...y'know. ;)
     
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    tell me how, step by step guide, as I never used Taiphoon burner and I'll be happy to share the settings with you.

    All I did personally was to change from XMP Profile 1 to Custom Profile, then I only changed the memory profile from the default to a 15. Didn't touch anything else

    do you want a screenshot of those timings or something else?
     
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    Screenshots would work as well. :) But I'd also like to load them in thaiphoon burner. To use thaiphoon burner, (assuming you have it downloaded, if not it's easy to find) simply open it, go to file, and pick save dump as... Once you do that ould you be able to provide the dump as the three listed formats please (.thp, .bin, and .txt)? Also, once you have burner open, would you mind taking a screenshot of "editor". It'll show a table of all settings/ timings once clicked. Thanks dude.

    Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
     
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    @Prema @Mr. Fox

    why is VMX showing as available but not enabled in HWiNFO even though I have double checked Virtualization is enabled is enabled in the CPU Configuration and also VT-D is enabled

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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Hmmm
     
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    Taiphoon Burner 3000 MHz Memory Dump

    3000 MHz Memory Settings - 1.jpg


    3000 MHz Memory Settings - 2.jpg
     
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    oh, so if one uses Prema BIOS he cannot run virtual machines? I could've sworn I've seen it enabled before on stock BIOS but I may be wrong......
     
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    Mine is also still "unchecked" for 5.0GHz manual upload. Will have to do it using the CPU-Z automatic submit button when I have more time to tinker with it. I suspect the person that "approves" them probably has a real job, with real priorities, and does this if and when they have enough free time to get bored.

    http://valid.x86.fr/e4eg4z
    5000MHz.JPG

    I had not noticed. I have all that stuff disabled in the BIOS anyway. I have no reason for it to be enabled because I have no use for virtualization. It would be important for those that do.
     
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    I have tried all solutions and several validation but still unchecked. When I use Submit button, cpu- z work and then push you over to their website. But nothing more happen and I can only see my score there.
     
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    I just tried 3000and it did boot to windows but tm5 shows alot of errors.
    have you in any chance tested your ram stick with tm5?
    we have different ram so yours might pass it. mine dont.
     
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    Wha
    What is tm5? How to do this test
     
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    Probably this http://m.blog.daum.net/comdc03/188
    If you can understand this problematic language :eek: Maybe use translation :confused: :D
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    @Papusan you may have to enter your registered name and mail ID into CPU-Z before hitting the submit button.

    I told you it was @johnksss who crashed hwbot's website. :p
     
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    So I've flashed my 970m w/ Prema BIOS and everything is awesome. I used Nvidia Inspector to overclock the 970m, but everytime I close the tool it appears the overclock speeds go away. I saw an article about putting a shortcut of the tool on the desktop and then putting that into the Windows startup folder but that doesn't work either. I'm not looking to max out the OC, just give it a little bump and keep it that way. Any other ideas on how to "set it and forget it" like that old sales guy used to say?
     
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    With NVInspector I have had to apply it twice before it sticks. Apply it wait a minute you'll see it revert to default then apply it again. both regular and shortcuts I have to do this with.
     
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    I've already tried this. Have a bunch of results that have already been posted on the CPU-Z web page after hitting the submit button(with and without registered name and mail ID). But I see only the results be recorded on the side in my acount, but no more than that. That should rather be automatic registered the actual result.

    @johnksss must stop the damn benching.... He must stop overloading the server, LOL. Other overclockers can't enter HWBOT to post their results if he continues like this :p
     
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    So quick question to @Prema @Papusan @Mr. Fox

    I recently upgraded to the 4k Panel, since i need it for work. Does the load on the GPU literally go 4x because of the 4x the resolution and having to process 4x the pixels? Im assuming my increased temps are because of this? Also does it have more of a increased load effect on the MOSFETS as well?

    I can stably run an OC of +153Mhz / +100Mhz without any need for extra voltage but the temps reach almost 88C during FireStrike/Division (Maxed out @ 1920x1080).

    This is what i settled at for daily use on the 4k Panel and the temps stay at around 72-76C during heavy loads - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11568565
    If i transfer the display to an extra 1080p monitor and not use the laptop display for bench-marking will that reduce the load on the GPU and let me push it further?

    The best i was able to achieve with the FHD panel hooked up was +325Mhz / +400Mhz (@1.275 v) (along with the 4.8Ghz Processor OC). But this was when i didn't quite realize i would need to dial down the clocks as mentioned by you guys earlier.

    Would really appreciate you guys' input on this.
     
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    Hard to say, but I can agree with your observation that behavior and stability are adversely affected by 4K. The change in scaling that can take place between benchmark tests, or loading/unloading/alt+tabbing in games seems to affect stability to an extent. It varies based on what I am doing. For example, it seems to affect stability worse in 3DMark 11 than it does in Fire Strike. They handle the change in scaling in very different manners. That might be due to the difference being too huge for it to be handled gracefully on the fly. If I set my 4K screen to 1080p it always seems more stable to me. I am not speaking to the hit on performance. (which is only natural with a 400% increase in resolution,) only stability.
     
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    So i changed the resolution to 1920x1080, and wow the load on my GPU dropped from about to 5-6% when working on a rather heavy 3D Scene in one of my 3D applications. Lets see if if can live with the slight blurriness xD
     
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    Here I found a former Firestrike score and compared with yours. My GPU core clock is 1327 vs 1381 your. It is obvious that your graphics scores are too low in relation to that you have a 4% higher OC on gpu core in comparison. Both run the same Oc on memory. I do not think my processor who run +300MHz higher shall amounts such a difference in Fire Strike
    http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8138154/fs/7893785#

    Edit: If I were you I would use a Kill-A-Watt to see if you have the same power consumption in bench test.
     
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    Have tried your settings, but the machine wont boot.... tried the 4.4 Ghz, and will try the 4.2 ...

    Loading on the BIOS the optimized setting will load the default for the current page you are on or for the whole BIOS?
     
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    loading setup default will change a lot of settings to default not only the page you are one but it will leave UEFI or CSM option as to what you set it last. also, I noticed that while it set the voltage stuff back to default, it won't change the CPU multipliers in CPU configuration to default so you must go there to CPU Configuration and change them back to 0 (default)

    As for why you couldn't boot with my settings, probably not enough voltage.

    Try setting the voltage to -60mV for CPU/Ring and leave the ring at 0 min / 0 max

    I need to update the settings but I am busy now I just formatted my system.

    Will post updated settings tomorrow for more stability
     
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    You do not need to put back multi although you loading setup default. Cpu running stock speed anyway.
     
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    OK.... will give it a try, but I checked after loading the optimized values it seems that all went back to normal, multipliers too.
     
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    Yeah its as you say, the resolution is making a difference. (More like the extra amount of pixels being pushed)
    I was able to push the card to +225/+105 OC running the display @ 1920x1080. Anything more black screens out or causes driver crashes. This is stable with 30 mins of Unigen Valley. But the temps reach high 80's (85-90C) which is rather hot.
    I should mention i do need to re-paste my card, since its been rather hot since i got it. Just waiting for the replacement screws to come in on Monday. Gonna change the pads to Fujipoly ones and make the core to heatsink gap as little a possible.
    Also dont think the power delivery is the issue. But let me see if i can get a power draw measuring device form somewhere.
    btw. @Mr. Fox :
    A step up in cooling xD
    [​IMG]
     
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    Have you considered using Throttlestop for finding appropriate voltage settings? Use stock voltage in bios and lower the voltage rather with Throttlestop. Once you have found the right combination dof clock speed vs voltage, put them in bios afterwards.
     
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    @Prema @Mr. Fox

    I knew I wasn't blind, I just formatted my machine and now it shows VMX in green

    VMX.png
     
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    something I noticed on my system is that it says to set power limit 3 and 4 to 250,000 and on my system I cant get that number, is like 250,049 or less than 250,000 but cant get that round number
     
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    What if you set up 255000 or 260000? Or something in between?
     
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    But I still have to change the CPU speed on the BIOS??? That's what I do not understand very well where is located, I see multipiers and stuff like that but not sure what they mean, and after doing all this modification, on the CPU information on the BIOS still said it was a 4 GHz CPU, should that changed to reflect the overclocking???
     
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    Sure... I jus thought that things had to be copied exactly to the same for some reason, and I'm curious why on the same system I can't get the same numbers..
     
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