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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    In that case if the BIOS isn't making much sense, i would suggest reading up on ThrottleStop and then going from there. Its pretty easy to understand and @unclewebb 's thread has good detailed explanations.
     
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    Also sometimes after changing OC settings in the BIOS it takes longer than usual to POST. You might even need to force power cycle it.
     
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    I actually set mine to 300000 for all power limits, this way when overclocking, I only have to worry about voltage / multipliers.

    You will see these changes in tomorrow's new settings

    or if you want them now, check the video I posted for the 4.5 GHz settings, keep everything the same but the multipliers set them to 44 for all cores rather than 45 for a start

     
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    Use 4.4GHz settings to @Phoenix but with stock voltage. Then use Throttlestop for finding correct volts for your processor. Throttlestop can make the most. Increase or decrease clockspeed and voltage +++.

    Edit: @bloodhawk I forgot to say that the new cooling you use looked really nice :D
     
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    I was able to take it to 4.2 GHz but not more with that software, and was able to set it to work with -125 mv and it never goes over 80C... should I be able to take it to a higher speed with this software???
     
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    Will check the video, thanks!
     
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    Everything is trial and error. If you do not get higher than 42 ... Increase Core max Oc Ratio to 45 or higher if you want max out your OC. Do not forget to run some bench tests with your new OC. Wprime 1024M and Cinebench R11.5 and R15 is good. Monitor temp under bench.
     
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    Thanks bae <3

    Im actually going to move this setup close to the window at night, once the temps drop. FREE AC BEBE!
     
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    You need it, when you chose 4K :D As well cooling down your wallet, LOL
     
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    Ok. I followed the instructions on this video. And also changed the memory speed as the video indicates. No the machine won't even let me get into the BIOS by pressing F2.... Am I screwed?
     
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    No. But you need to pull out the cmos battery for resetting the bios.
    A nice guide from @Mr. Fox https://biosmods.wordpress.com/2015/10/21/sky-x9/4/
     
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    Congrats on your first no POST scenario. :p
    Emailed you some info one how to reset the CMOS. From what i gather, you dont need to take out the main battery. I had to do this once so far, but i had everything taken apart as it is, so mine was already out. @Mr. Fox mentioned somewhere that the main battery does not need to be taken out.
    Also dont know if RAID settings will get reset after CMOS clear or not. Someone else might be able to shed some light on it.
    And next time just try to follow mine or @Phoenix 's settings to the letter (making sure your voltage offset is not more than -50mV, specially for 4.5Ghz just to be on the safer side.)
     
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    Oh and please make sure you are well grounded.
     
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    @victorwol Always Oc one part of the hardware. Start to get your processor stable, then tweak your memory settings.

    You should consider yourself very lucky that you did not have an AW 17 with No post. Reset bios on my Aw17 is a small nightmare LOL
     
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    That's how I first started with my M15x, same lasko brand as well lol.

    BTW is the "soundblaster" part a sticker or engraved?
     
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    Bro I said the memory settings shown is for my 2800 MHz RAM you should've ignored the memory part unless you have the same RAM
     
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    I'm back in... But I'm never touching the RAM settings again :))))

    Somethin really strange is that all this screwed my login by PIN and fingerprints. Password still works, but PIN and finger not... Would it be some sort of anti tampering protection?

    Isn't that the stock memory that comes with the machine? All good... Peace :))))
     
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    Was not me. I was over there cursing up a storm trying to post scores. :D
     
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    RAID setting were retained.
     
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    The one on top is painted or something.
    The bottom one is sticker.
     
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    My dos centavos (2¢)... If you have the @Prema BIOS, I would uninstall that XTU piece of junk and just use the BIOS and Throttlestop. Some of what you are seeing with that may not even be accurate. With XTU uninstalled do some testing and if your clock speeds hold under load then your machine is working as it should.

    Seems like I remember something about that security stuff being stored in NVRAM somewhere. If you reset the NVRAM and that is true, that might explain why it is gone. If that is accurate, then I wonder what the point is if NVRAM reset deletes it.
     
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    @Mr. Fox
    Uninstalled XTU and installed throttle stop. But I am seeing EDP flashing yellow and red in Limit Reasons.
     
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    @Catman879 - Do you have the @Prema BIOS? If so, what version? I think you will need that if you don't already have it. If your voltage (or offset) is too high it will cause that behavior. Skylake is extraordinarily voltage sensitive. Just a couple of mV too much is all it takes to cause it. You cannot always go by what other people recommend because it may not be ideal for every CPU. Some need more, some less. Maybe post some screen shots of your ThrottleStop settings so others can have a look.
     
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    I have the Mythlogic 1.05.03 Bios V1.5, I dont know how that relates to the Prema Bios. I know that Myth uses his bios but I dont know if this version is updated or not.
     
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    I really want to uninstall xtu but I am still using it just because it activates "overclocked" fan table which I think is very useful.

    If someone knows how to activate "overclocked" fan table without actually installing xtu, please let me know.
     
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    This! Would really like to know. Most people don't even that it enables that.
     
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    I don't really know why it is needed. I never use that. I use FN+1 when having the fans run full blast is important. When running them full blast is not necessary, stock fan tables seem to do totally fine for me. Temps are good.
     
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    By the way, what is Sound Blaster on this machine?...
     
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    Creative Audio software that is offered as a compliment to the Realtek audio chipset.
     
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    Bad audio implementation xD
    It is what silicon is to boobs and botox to butts. :p
     
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    Sometimes it's best to not fix something that already works really well.
    [parsehtml]<iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ykwxq3MOQs8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/parsehtml]
     
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    I would still preferred that it was possible to put in overclocked fan tables as standard in the Control Center. I have talked about this in an another post (can not remember in what thread). If somebody can find a way overwriting this so tell... When my wife fires up the wood stove can the temp quickly reach +30 degrees right beside my pc place. I do not like such a temp(Thank goodness you can use FN+1), but what should I tell my wife? Stop her? :no: :biggrin: Yeah I know I can do that, but only if I can do it before she starts, LOL.
    And I will never put the Xtu Bloat in any of my machines even if you get the better fan profile. Maybe some with the current skills can tweak the CC if they have the time ? I know have said this before, but it's still valid in some circumstances :bigyes: Because I don't like the CC and the Oc fan table should be default fan speed.
     
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    @godfafa_kr

    Never ever installed XTU on my system....

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    I think Control Center detects that I am running the system on overclocked settings that's why it's offering the Overclock Fan Profile.
     
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    I am fully aware of the fan control in CC, but I want Oc fan speed as default in startup. I almost never use this Controll Center. Nothing that of interest for me in this software. I wish I could switch between maximum speed and Oc fan speed without having to start up the bloatware :) Why should I crippling the power with Entertainment or power saving. If I wanted crippled performance, I could rather purchased a BGA machine :D A lot of brand and models to choose from if I wanted junk...
    HaHa... This isn't a Dell machine with zero fan control in ACC :p
     
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    Well.. how come mine doesn't.
    The old haswell models (p7x0zm) also provided OC fan table only after XTU installation.
    Yours dont. Strange..
     
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    If I set to the overclock profile mine stay there after reboot. Does yours not? The only thing I have noticed is if you use "Sleep" be aware after wake up it may have the OC profile checked but it doesn't use it so to correct you have to flip away and then back to OC profile.

    I have looked at the code in this application and something overwrites the defaults from the best I can tell so I believe to set OC as aways/default something in the EC will have to be changed.

    The other thing I never understand was the custom option? Does it work for anyone or did I completely misunderstand. If I use it the fans don't work at all.
     
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    I think my old 980M in SLI P870DM system did the same. Maybe the fact that I have a desktop class 980 GTX has anything to do with this? The reason I say this is because with the 980M SLI system, I didn't see the built-in GPU OC utility I had to find it and launch it manually from the folder with the Control Center was installed. With my current system which is the same exact system except for the GPU where I ditched SLI for a single 980 GTX, the GPU OC utility now appears as soon as Control Center is installed and the GPU OC utility stays in the taskbar, now you mention this automatic fan profile as well. I don't know it may be due to that or due to the fact that I overclocked my system using the Prema BIOS
     
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    Im guessing you are running the CCC insider build?

    Mine also doesnt work with it. There is a good chance Phoenix is using a CCC version that isnt out yet. Because on my system that profile never did anything.
     
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    yes but I've seen the overclocking profile even on the previous official build 5.00000.32
     
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    You can see it in every version, but it just doesnt work.
     
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    Hmmm I just selected overclock and restarted the computer. The setting stuck fine.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The problem isn't that it sticks or not. It mostly doesn't work. Change to Maximum and then to Overclock . to Maximum then to automatic and then to Overclock. Sometimes it works, mostly it doesn't.
    And it never stuck for me though. CCC did more harm than it did good on my system. Messed some serious permissions and ****.
    DO you have XTU installed by any chance?
     
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    Well the fans are spinning up anytime there is a lot of activity like a game, or opening many tabs in my browser, so IMO it's working.
     
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    Yes, the fan overclock profile stayt here after reboot, but if I want run maximum fan performance (press FN+1 and back to normal fan speed so choose the CC only Automatic). Pretty stupid...
    The same idiotic plan that I have to press the system program to access the fan profiles after start up of CC. Incredibly clumsy...
    Off topic: Seeing that Hwinfo64 Beta 5.23-2830 show fan speed. The fans could have gone a lot faster than what they do (around 3200rpm is weak) Had the fans been able to run +4000rpm would the actual cooling on this beast been a lot better... Here is a large improvement potential for Clevo. Is it possible to do a tweak in the bios/Ec or even use fans with better speed and air flow?

    Can I let the EC Support stand as default on this laptop(like the image)? On the AW laptops I had this ticked away. Any recommendation on settings in Hwinfo? @Mr. Fox + all with the same laptop model can come with advice. Also the Hwinfo startup is to long with all setings ticked


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    Nope
     
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