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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    I use my mod U3(with proper Vardar fans). As, @dspboys say, I don't live in A desert. But I'm sure I could have better temp with a proper A/C bench :)
    HeHe, Not all would love 14-20c as the normal summer temp here up, or 20-25 days a year with temp over 21-22 :p I'm sure you would hate it... In the same way as my wife :D
     
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  2. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    My ambient temperature (33°C) is higher than your idle temps... :( My 4710MQ refuses to go below 40°C in idle, even with air-conditioning.
     
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    And Liquid metal didn't workout for you? Hotwell is a damn hot chips. I couldn't use 4930Mx without Liquid metal.

    Proper and correct info as always :D Don't forgot post it in the proper thread as well :) Not all coming in this thread.
     
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    No, doesn't make one hoot of a difference. I even have copper shims, nope, no effect. Lousy load temps (85°C on OC GTX 860M), very average idle temps. This laptop I am going to sell soon, after I get my university posting results.

    I am just holding off for an upgrade until next year. I hope Zen 2 comes next year, as well as Volta, so I can build a desktop with the latest and greatest. I want to move to the Lakes or Ryzen ASAP because I do a lot of multithreaded workloads like video rendering.

    I still have a mini-ITX C236 server mobo with a Pentium G4500 inside, just a basic interim CPU until I get a better one. I want to upgrade it to a 4C/8T Xeon E3 (maybe 1245v5) with Intel iGPU and a basic Pascal GPU (1050 maybe?) for video acceleration.
     
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    I'm actually curious about this, wouldn't be bad to use an AC bench? I mean, AC tends to cool the components quite a bit, which would produce condense, which can short circuit electronics, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    Air conditioning has been used in server rooms for years. Most have a dehumidifier, as do the portable AC units. We're only talking about cold air. Keeping your house chilly or using your computer outside during the winter also helps like using AC cooling. If you live in a humid area, it's not a bad idea to periodically spot check for peace of mind if you're benching on AC. I live in dry desert areas, so I have never had an issue with condensation.

    You definitely would not want to use a swamp cooler though. That would be bad.

    Actually, I would love that. I hate hot sunny weather and always avoid going outside when it is hot and sunny. I do not like rain or snow, or wind, but overcast skies are fine with me. Dry, still frozen tundra is perfect for me. I would be very happy to live in a place where the warmest days of summer were never greater than 15°C (59°F). If I can see my breath when I exhale outdoors, and that cloud just hangs there without getting blown away, to me that is like living in paradise. I do not really enjoy being outdoors if temperatures go very far above 20°C (68°F) and 25°C (77°F) is too hot by my standards. I try to keep my house between 21-22°C because my wife gets cold if I set the thermostat where I want it, so we compromise. I would set it as cold as it would go and leave it there if it were up to me. I hate having the furnace turned on in winter, so I keep my office window open and spend time on the patio on the weekends. As long as the water pipes do not freeze, I'm good.
     
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    My main problem with the Norwegian weather is the rain, wind and high humidity the whole year. Even in the winter is rainy and stormy. When I was in good health (before My lungs went wacko) I hadn't the big problems with the weather here. I usually never sit out right under the sun, home or during my vacation to hotter places, but it would be very nice sitting home outside under a big umbrella/a roof rack with 24/26c ambient with the correct humidity due my broken lungs(need fresh air). We normally have 20C inside home the whole year (if not my wife going wacko with the fireplace). As She prefer +25c. Cold or Hot weather with high humidity is terrible for my health. 19/20c inside and 22-25 outside would be perfect :)
     
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    Still; its a good overclock with great results. I got to make a modded laptop fan. This £10 Ares fan from Ebay blows like a hamster breathing air on me...
     
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    Bucharest's summer weather is very humid sometimes, so I am afraid of using the AC directly with P775

    I hope you'll be getting better soon!

    I'm under a bad cold at the moment and I feel what you're saying, been coughing although the air is kinda okay, seems that colds get roughter with age...
     
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    An Air Conditioner dehumidifies as well :\
    Obviously you need to be vary of condensation.
     
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    For P870KM1-G users reference:
    {3rd Liquid Metal prep on CPU & GPU}

    All results on 7860x1440p with fans set to "Full" when gaming or testing, and then fans set to "Overclock" while using idle desktop. Also 4th 1080P accessories screen is enabled.

    Prime95 small FFT 1+ hour test Prep#3
    BIOS: Stock Clevo Bios
    Ambient Room Temperature: 24c
    CPU Max Temp (4.7Ghz 7700K): 79c
    Max CPU Power Package: 91.3 Watts
    CPU Under-Volt: -50mv
    GPU (1080 Stock) Master Max Temp: 44C
    GPU (1080 Stock) Slave Max Temp: 45C
    Samsung 960 M.2 SSD Max Temp: 55c
    NVidia Driver: 384.76

    The KM1 really needs a Prema BIOS...
    1hr+ Prime95 Small FFT Temps At 4.7Ghz.jpg
     
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    Thanks for this.
    Unfortunately the lungs are broken forever. Not reversible. One day better, next day can be opposite. Only new lungs will help.
     
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    Server rooms have humidity traps and water sensors watching out for that kind of thing :) The one I used to look for had it's own little sensor control system which would be inspected every few months along with the fire suppressant gas canisters. It was only a small one too.
     
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    Good to know!

    I don't have any humidity sensors and I know that Bucharest can get pretty wet, so I won't blow cold air in P775.

    I know that humidity can be a problem because I kept my Mi Max in front of the AC unit, and small droplets of water appeared on it...
     
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    If you can cool down the entire room then it's less of an issue. It can depend on the exact conditions of the surrounding air of course.
     
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    Couldn't resist the price($200 with expedite shipping) of the Quadro M3000M(1024 Maxwell cores; 256-bit), decided to get one as a CAD card on the DM1:
    M3000M.jpg
    Overclocking it to its stable limit is a must. Since it has the same power design of the M5000M(980M), I am able to clock it stably at [email protected] with 5600MHz memory, tops at 160W.
    Performance on par with default P3000 or M5000M, excellent value for just 200 bucks:
    M3000M@FSN.jpg M3000M@3DMK11.jpg CINR15.jpg
    This type of Quadro chip-set makes it almost impossible to do inline flashing. I got black screen on boot 3 times because of messing up the vbios, luckily I was able to blind-flash it through Windows' CMD.
    Chipset.jpg
     
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    Is that a WSON chip ? O_O
     
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    50x
    [​IMG]

    51x
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    51x Maybe a bit hot :D
    [​IMG]
     
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    Right, WSON-8 chip, not sure why they didn't just use the normal SOP-8 chip to make things easier, :p.
     
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    The chip validates it as a quadro to stop people hacking it.
     
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    Its not that complicated.
    The WSON8 and SOP8 chips arent all that different. WSON's only have a smaller footprint, and just a bit more inconvenient to dump firmwares out of.
     
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    Hey @Mr. Fox and the others who tested using HPET on and off, was there any benefit or downsides? I seem to remember something about Firestrike not Validating benchmarks if it's off, or something to that effect.
     
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    I have on and always do, and my Fire Strike validates with it fine.

    +5 Rep for the excellent scores, Brother @Papusan
     
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    Yeah i know it validates with it on, I was simply wondering if it worked with it off. Apparently it REALLY helps to turn it off on threadripper and many other people say it gives them less stutter in games and whatever but who knows, most people set up PCs badly.
     
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    Thanks bro Fox. Seen this? :rolleyes: Why change on the subject? Anyway... Filth loses as always :D
     
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    Maybe I will check both ways. I have no stuttering issues that I a-a-am aw-wa-ware of.

    I think the Windows HPET may be slightly different than theHPET in the BIOS.
     
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    Can you even disable HPET in the Clevo system?
     
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    Not if you are On stock BIOS.
     
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    It is in the Prema BIOS. Did you see it?
     
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    @Papusan nice numbers there! :)

    @Coolane you don't need a hardware flasher for those Maxwell Quadros, my modded NVFLASH will work just fine even for flashing a bricked card in the slave slot.

    @Mobius 1 it's in your beta Mod under "PCIe, SATA & Audio Configuration" section.
     
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    Completely missed it, thanks!
     
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    P650HS-G with a 7820HK running at 4Ghz (-120mv)...

    [​IMG]

    I seem to get the exact same score when running at 3.9 so it's throttling due PL, which is a measly 56W on the P650HS.

    It's so bizarre to see how an "unlocked" processor is so damn locked down on this machine, I don't know if there's a specific reason on why the PL is so low on the P650HS, other laptops can go way higher than that, hope Prema releases a mod for it so I can see how far it'll go, it's an unlocked CPU after all.

    Decided to post this so we can easily see the gap between @Papusan real unlocked laptop and a upper end BGA one (albeit crippled by the Clevo's ridiculously low default PL).
     
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    It's sad seeing how the OEMs crippling the firmware. BGA or not... It doesn't matter.
    But at least your Cinbench score is on level or a bit higher than Azor's awful AW Trashbooks +rep
     
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    Intel puts that limit on the mobile CPUs.
     
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    And some OEMs fail to open access with writing proper firmware so yoo can increase the power limits. Damn its an unlocked BGA!! It's a TURD but anyway
     
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    P870DM-G / 7700K (1080 upgrade pending)
    [​IMG]
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    Such a turd that you can drive 1440p 144hz gaming off of it.....
     
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    how did you get 7700k onto 870DM?
    Prema's BIOS added kabylake MC?
     
  40. Papusan

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    Read this post + the few before and after.
     
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    Thanks! I was curious because the original BIOS didnt support KBL.
    Some people tried flashing DM3 BIOS, it worked but the sound card was not able to function, it was ALC0892 in DM, ALC0899 in DM3.
    Also, some people reported that old kepler ( 7XXM, 8XXM) will result in black screen after installing graphic drivers.
     
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    And, if that's all the kiddos care about, it's OK that it ends there and they ultimatly have a disposable, inferior piece of dog excrement for a computer. Ignorance is bliss, for them and for Intel. There would be no way for Intel to dump its garbage on the public if everyone knew and cared because nobody would put up with their filth.
     
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    @Mr. Fox @Papusan

    Just received a 20 gram tube of Arctic MX-4

    1) Will his be enough to paste the CPU and GPU? how many pasts would 20 grams give me?

    2) Is this safe to apply on GPUs or is it conductive?

    Edit: regarding question 2, here is what I found on their site so it should be fine for the GPU I guess heh?

     
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    Yeah, for all Q. But why would you use Mx-4 ? :rolleyes: Rather try Phobya NanoGrease Extreme as you hate Kryonaut(if you want trying a new paste).
     
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    you were the one who recommended it to me a few days ago and showed us a link how low the temps are with it :rolleyes:
     
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    Artic MX-4 is definitely not electrically conductive. Its safe as houses. A 3.5g of thermal paste that I used was enough for both my GPU dies x4 applications, so that's 8 GPU dies using a mixture of dots, crosses, excessive blobs or line methods. 20g is enough for many applications. Its good that you bought it in bulk. I always do.
     
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    Yoo should know me, bruh :D I can be pretty ironic and harsh!! Ask me next time. Maybe I have to make a notice in the bottom of my post :p Edit. Already edited with a appropriate comment in the bottom of the post!! It's trash/low end paste and shouldn't be used if you want lowest possible hardware temp for your laptops!! Even for use on desktop hardware I would say this thermal paste is a no go. But it's very popular due it is so easy to use!! The paste is creamy and spread very easy with all types of application methods. Very useful if you want see how good the fit/pressure is between HS and die/IHS due its thin creamy consistency. Not a good choice for ordinary use!!
     
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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    you just drilled a 20 USD hole in my pocket and now that I see the reviews, it's not actually better than LCU

    but then........this is the image you posted back then.......

    [​IMG]
     
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    See my editing in previous post. Sorry for the extra bucks spent :oops: You can use it as described in bottom of my previous post!!
     
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