Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

Desktop Pascal cards have 2 big 330uF caps directly behind the core. Clevo cards don't have these for some reason, and they put traces where the pads are supposed to be so they can't be added.

I'll be widening the center line of ceramic caps, sliding the existing caps over, and adding the 100uFs.

 

....."So they can't be added"?
Why would Clevo do this?
What do they gain by putting traces?

 

Well, bear in mind that Clevo and MSI were left to fend for themselves with the Green Goblin dumping support for MXM. Laptop manufacturers do not design GPUs and motherboards with the thought in mind that they are going to be hard-modded by end users. Come to think of it, neither do desktop component manufacturers. They build things to the specs they want. There is no such thing as reference design or standards for notebooks. Sometimes that can make mods difficult. People like @Khenglish (that successfully do things as wild as transplanting a GTX 980 desktop GPU core and the memory chips from a desktop GPU on a 980M MXM PCB) are extremely rare.

 

You usually have pads for things that are there just in case and testing shows its not required so is not used.

 

Can someone provide me a link from 3DMark.com where it shows the "Hall Of Fame" of notebooks only please. The site has confusing navigation.

 

You need to search notebook GPUs for that.

 

Hall of fame does not take form factor into account.

 

www.3dmark.com/Hall-Of-Fame

This!!

 

Sorry I didn't explain properly. I meant top ranking notebooks. The only way someone can do this, is by searching the latest notebook GPU in advance search. I have just found out that there is no Hall Of Fame specifically for notebooks. Hall Of Fame is for all hardware in general.

Even in "Hardware" search, there is no notebook Top 10. The only hardware Top 10 devices 3DMark show are Mobile Devices, Graphic Cards/GPU, Processors/CPU, and Motherboards. They should add notebooks there too.

Thank you.
I have found the top ranking Notebooks: Go to "3DMark.com" homepage, click on "Results". Click on the "Advance Search" tab, Then type in "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Notebook)" in the "GPU" search bar and then click on the "Search" button. This will bring up the best laptop scores. If a new GPU card comes out; then you search that new GPU card.

 

By the way...
My 1080 GPU hits 252W at 2202Mhz is this safe?
Does the system have some kind of a safety shutdown/reset if the card is pushed to it's limits?.
Has anyone fried their GPU by just adding extra GHz to their GPU?

 

Don't think so, but... that's one HELL of a GPU. It can't be stock

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It's stock bro. 2202Mhz is not stable and only lasts for a minute though. I see missing images on my screen. It's scary. I'm going to run 2088Mhz on core and 5205Mhz on memory for a few days to see if its stable. If so I will crank it up a bit. It's still giving me 252w on the master 1080 GPU. I never seen this before on my stats. I'm starting to have second thoughts...
The stats below are from a full Time Spy bench;

 

The max power draw allowed on a stock clevo 1080 is 190W. Spikes above that can happen, to 200 or hell even 207w I believe. But to 252W? Something is not stock about that thing. Shunt resistors? Custom vBIOS? Something! But 252W is so far outside the realm of stock it's now funny

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Hey... Now you scaring me
I just knocked my clocks down because of your comment lol.
Is Time Spy 12390 an okay score for:
Core: 2088MHz
Memory: 5205MHz
CPU: 4.9GHz

I might have to buy the full version of 3DMark by the looks of it...
Edit: I got a feeling I have too much processes running in the background.

 

That's not the issue.

The card itself doesn't draw that much.

Especially at that cool temp.

Something cannot be stock/.

 

Can you do a Afterburner Graph that shows the Clock Speeds, Power, Voltage, and the Power Limit etc? WHILE running at 2202Mhz?
Also the temperature, you are running at..

Also whats the load like?

 

The amount of power you're drawing is not an issue. The fact that you're drawing that much is the issue. You should not be.

As for "too many background processes", if that were the case everyone would have spikes if they did something like this:


I also tried using Realbench but it wasn't giving me over 120W on the GPUs.

 

Yeah there is a no way for the Stock Clevo 1080 to go beyond 2150Mhz @ 30+C temperature, specially at stock voltage.

 

I mean he apparently has the world's best chips, gaming around 50c without any fan mods in Witcher 3 etc, but even so, there's still no way to suck 252W on a stock card.

 

Weird... I have not touched anything. Everything I know is stock.

I was trying to say; does the background processes effect my Time Spy benchmark score?

No. As I have mentioned on my old post: 2202MHz is not stable. I have missing chunks of graphics on my screen, then its hangs. If I work my self up to 2202MHz then I will do. Do you mean in-game Clock Speeds, Power, Voltage, and the Power Limit etc?
I don't want to fry my board you see. Them flickering images looked nasty. But then again, I might have pumped up the memory clock to high and that's why its doing that. I was just fiddling about, I should have worked my way up from a small clock speed. That's what I'm doing now as it is safer.

I applied 2202MHz on Clevo GPU Overclock dash. The screen was flickering and bits of images were appearing and disappearing. The 2202MHz never got registered on HWiNFO64 only the 252W.
Does this have something to do with my 7680X1440P (Plus 4th screen at 1080P) screen resolution?

Then someone has molested my P870KM1-G lol
I have not touched a thing bro

Please don't forget: This is with a U3+ X3 Vardar FF5 fan mod on full!

 

Software power figures are not always reliable.

 

Can I measure this with another software? Please share.

 

Even then unless you are hitting 2202Mhz while nothing is running, its pretty much impossible. Or its at barely any load.
You can run any GPU demanding game like Witcher 3 / Overwatch etc. or Firestrike / TimeSpy.
Even if its not stable, try getting a screenshot with the power and limits reading for maybe 5-10 seconds. You wont fry anything... specially if i can do this using a modded vBIOS - https://i.imgur.com/ySXecWP.jpg

Spoiler

You are safe on a stock vBIOS, unless you bump your memory clocks way too much, or unless your core is un reasonably hot.

 

No, that's just the nature of the beast.

 

Something really weird just happened. I been playing (23 Min) Witcher 3 with 4.9GHz, 2100MHz Core, 5205MHz memory with full fans, including Vardar mod. My CPU throttled below 4.2GHz, this has never happened before. Is this because of the voltage on the CPU. Also the HWiNFO64 GPU voltage is greyed out. And check the "Performance Limit Reasons" on HWiNFO64, some stats are marked "Yes".
I don't want to bake my P870KM..
Is there something up?

 

Silly question, are you on the Prema mod?

 

You CPU voltage is way too high for 4.9Ghz.
Also your GPU's are power throttling hard... the giveaway is the average.
Try having the Afterburner + RTSS overlay up when you are about 15 mins into the game, that will give you a good idea of what your stabilized clocks are at.

 

Sorry I missed you comment. Like this bro:

 

Nope. I wish
Is it out yet for the P870KM1-G?

Thank you and okay. I put extra voltage on for the CPU because I don't know where to start?
My GPU's never went down past 2000MHz I'm sure. It was just my CPU.

 

Nope. Afterburner + RTSS and the graphs. Running a GPU intensive load. Or just for ****s and giggles, do the GPU-Z render test.

They did. And HARD... look at your average. Which isnt exactly accurate.. but then again reset HWinfo before you start the game and take a screenshot right after..
The only proper way to test this and know the exact clocks would be to get the Afterburner graphs.

 

Then you'll never hold high clocks at full system stress. It's designed to not do that by Clevo. You can't even pull more than 480W out of that at any given time, it's not possible you pulled 252W/207W + running the CPU earlier.

 

There is something fishy with this P870KM1-G. I have had two and now I have sold the lemon one to my brother (I hope he never see's this comment lol). This one has 10c lower temps on the GPU's, 8c lower temps on the CPU (around I cant exactly remember, this is no matter which 7700K CPU is attached to the laptop), and this one can take 64GB of vengeance RAM and boot up, the other can only boot up with 32GB of vengeance RAM (or 64GB Kingston). The master 1080 GPU on this P870KM1 is so cool compared to all of the x6 1080's I have tested. The screen looks ace too
Put now this power draw is making my dick itch

 

My GPU clocks always drop at 1.6GHz while I'm at the desktop. I must have missed the GPU drops while I was swinging that sword on Witcher 3 lol. I did notice my CPU go down bigtime though. I'm going to do that GPU-Z test when I got time. I will keep you informed.

 

Run the afterburner graphs then. Let Bloodhawk and I look at things. Do it during a long and demanding test. Either running around in Novigrad for 15 minutes in Witcher 3 or I'm not sure what a solid full system stress benchmark could be that lasts more than 2-3 minutes.

 

Thats why, reset HWInfo before running the game/GPU load.
OR
The Afterburner Graphs as D2 suggested earlier.

 

@bloodhawk In one of your screenshots you're putting 1.375v into a 7700k @ 4.5 ghz?

Uh nvm wait that's @Stress Tech
Yo man lower your CPU voltage! No 7700k in existance needs 1.375v for 4.5 ghz.
Even my turdbook 7820HK only needs 1.169-1.19v for non AVX (can't do 8 thread AVX).

 

Yeah thats default, without any offset, or static voltage.

 

You haven’t a Kill-a-Watt lying? Then You could measure the max power pulled from the wall when testing.

He haven’t tuned voltage for the testing. For the records... 4.9GHz

 

lol. That's when I was at 4.9GHz I forgot to reset HWiNFO64 when I switched back to 4.5GHz I put 1.375v for 4.9GHz because that was the default voltage. I thought it'd be best to start there.

Sorry bro, I don't understand. Can you explain it differently please.

I only can play Witcher 3 for 4 minutes before it crashes at 2202Mhz, The screen goes funny. I reset the HWiNFO64 and then played the game. With GPU-Z render test, it crashed as soon as that blob came on the full screen.


Are these the graphs you are on about. I only collected a bit of data if that's the point. Or am I missing something? I'm a novice on overclocking by the way...

I think I missed the data??
I will try again.
And why is my GPU wattage greyed out again on HWiNFO64???

 

Yeah the afterburner graphs. And dont need the Clevo app showing, it has no useful info so get rid of it next time. The graphs should be showing these - Core Clocks, Power limit, voltage, temperature.

 

A KILL-A-Watt can be used for monitoring the maximum power your computer pulls from the wall. They ain’t expensive. Or you could just use a UPS if you have.

 

Right got you. So them AfterBurner graphs?
I will try again.

Nice one. I never knew. I will check on the net later on. I need one them for defo.

 

I have one of those, because @Papusan told me to buy one. Very useful item.

 

BTW did you say 258W? Didn't @Coolane say that @Khenglish tested that the absolute max power the Clevo can draw DIRECTLY through the MXM port is 258W?

*Edit* 266W through DM3 directly through the MXM port

 

These are 1080s so they have an extra power connector. 300W is not a problem.

 

2202Mhz is not happening. GPU wattage is greyed out again. Game is unplayable with GPU speed dropping. 10 minute off and on gameplay. I have not seen that 252w power draw yet. I have seen it a couple of times earlier yesterday and today, but it seems to not to pop up now especially with the GPU wattage is greyed out on HWiNFO64. When the graph goes down at the end, it means I have quit the game. The middle down graph is when I was on a load screen I think. I think I will start at a low GPU speed and work myself up. But that 252W power draw is weird. I will keep an eye on it and post it here with graphs hopefully.

 

Exactly what me and D2 are trying to say. 2202Mhz is impossible. Let alone run a game at those clocks.
Also any sort of 210W+ power draw using the stock vBIOS AND stock system BIOS.

Also that grayed power draw is because of a driver crash.

 

Looks like you found a very very strange vbios or system (EC) firmware? bug.

 

Doubt it.

 

I've seen some very strange bugs with Pascal, bloodhawk. I woudn't be surprised.
You remember the 8a Vbios that locks the maximum GPU voltage to 0.881v? It's possible to actually exceed that by messing with the curve, only at high temperatures, by locking strange points, but the system winds up being horribly unstable at *IDLE*. Like...so unstable you can crash and not be able to reboot successfully and get into windows!