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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    This looks alright. Let Hwinfo start up simultaneously with Widoze and stay tuned if anything will be registered. Also use Hwmonitor in the background if you have it installed. To compare the results.
     
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    thats how i find out that it goes down to 8x for a few then goes back to normal. but why is that
     
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    Speedster or speed shift or min Processor state in power profile
     
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    those are enabled in bios... shouldnt they be? look i just ran firestrike and now two went to 40x [​IMG]
     
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    What are your Max tubo power settings at in the BIOS?
    And this :
    [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]

    turbo power max is at 160000
     
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    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Does it maintain those speeds when the CPU is at 100% load? If yes, then there is no problem. If it doesn't then there is insufficient power being set.
    If you want 100% all the time, then under Processor overclocking - Set the min and max processor multipliers to 45-45.
     
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    Switch to stock voltage. And test again. Skylake are sensitive to small changes in voltage settings. Not that you should use stock voltage, but only for testing.
     
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    Under processor overcloacking? you lost me there pal :/
     
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    Yes I will shortly still in bed brah
     
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    @Phoenix remember you have to barney style it for me bro... this lingo is martian for me

    4.6 GHz for CPU on all cores with a -30 mV undervolt / 4.1 GHz Cache with a -30mV undervolt

    4.6 on all cores check... -30mv where? 4.1ghz where? -30mv where?

    sorry for being a noob
     
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    Just for the record, in any Core i processor, at any moment in time, every active core is locked to the exact same multiplier and every active core is running at the exact same speed. It is physically impossible for 1 core to be running at 800 MHz while the one beside it is running at 4500 MHz.

    You can have individual cores becoming inactive and entering various low power C States. In the deeper C States, the inactive core is actually running at 0 MHz. Software cannot report the true speed of an inactive core because it would have to bump the core out of this C State first. If you want to see what C States your CPU is using, give ThrottleStop a try. If you do not want any C States then disable them. It will make your laptop run hotter but if you are using your laptop mostly as a desktop, this might be OK.

    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\intelppm
    Go into the above registry location, find the value Start and change this from 3 to 4, exit regedit, reboot and this should disable C2 / C3 / C6 / C7. A non K CPU will not be able to use the highest turbo multiplier after you do this but your CPU speed will be more consistent. After testing, it is easy enough to go back into the registry and change this back.

    @zacwhite15 - ThrottleStop should be able to help with the 1.6 GHz blues while on battery power. Download the latest version from my sig. If you cook your battery, remember to go look at the guy in the mirror that didn't listen to the good advice in this thread not to run ThrottleStop while on battery power. When lightly loaded you will probably be OK but no guarantees.
     
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    thanks for the tip but I encode movies. If i do that my laptop will burn on fire :D
    Throttlestop says cpu not supported :D

    Downloaded thata beta 2 and it works.. what options should I use?
     
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    Dude this is sick.
    This proves one thing or my GPU, it ran way too hot. at those clocks my GPU would start hitting 90C+.
    Can you do a wPrime 1024 run and post the temps?
     
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    This is pissing me off... it keep droping to 8x and back to normal right away. why is it doing thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
     
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    Here is the first thing, the answer to any of this wont be simple. No one will be able to give you an easy to understand answer. If you are trying to hit 4.2 to 4.3 that easy enough, most clock speeds over that require a fair bit of tweaking and reading to do.
    The easiest way to learn would be reset BIOS, set up whatever settings you had setup before (other than overclocks) and then learn to use THROTTLESTOP. It is an amazing tool which will help you understand what does what without making things too technical.
    @unclewebb has amazing descriptions and explanations in his thread.

    But yeah, the most probable reason why its doing that, is C-States and/or speedstep. Turn that off and it shouldn't do it anymore. But that will cause thermals and power consumption to be slightly higher.
    Speedstep drops the frequencies to lower states when there is not enough load.
    Also ARE THE SPEEDS STILL DROPPING WHEN IT IS UNDER 100% LOAD?
    I not then, there is no issues.
    to effectively test this, download wPrime and do a 1024m run and keep an eye on the clock speeds.
     
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    i had it like this yesterday the whole day at 4.5 with no issue... tinkered to try to go to 4.7 got a few BSOD and went back to the same settings for 4.5 and now im seeing this. not its not 100% load when it drops... it does it whenever the heck it wants to
     
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    I you can, take pictures of the following pages in the BIOS :
    Overclocking features - Main page and Processor/Ring Sub pages.
    CPU Page (top and bottom parts, and then the Power state pages towards the bottom).
    and post them here.
     
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    Just ran wprime with 8 threads and it didnt even blink. it stayed solid at 45
     
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    Then there is no issue. I use After Effects and Nuke a lot, and there are a lot of projects where After Effects doesnt use all the cores or pushes them to 100%.
    wPrime pushes it to the max and if its not dropping, then there is no issue. Means there is a no throttling or power issues taking place.
     
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    I can tell you that ring are both at 0 with offset of -60
    processor at 45 offset -60

    turbo mas is at 160000

    the power states are ALL at 300000 with 1 time window
     
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    Well seems to be fine then. Specially since wPrime makes it stick.
     
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    at 4.6 should u just set the ofsets to -70 and uncore to 30?
     
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    I was told the core voltage and cache voltage must match on Skyline CPU so I set both to -30mV
     
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    Im using -75 on core and -160 on Cache. No issues so far.
     
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    Did you notice it actually makes a difference? Because when using XTU they are always tied. What do you think @Mr. Fox
     
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    Nope, no issues and i have done **** tons of video rendering, effects work etc.
     
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    no no you didn't get me bro. I mean, does it make a difference temp wise if you set the Cache to -150mV or lower? If you do, then it means it may not be force tied as we thought. If you didn't, then it means that even setting it at a different voltage offset, it's not taking effect.
     
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    Yeap, pretty decent drop.
     
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    @Phoenix need ur detailed 4.6 config pretty please
     
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    thanks for reminding me bro. Give me 10 mins please. Doing it now
     
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    I uploaded the settings in post 1 of this thread. Please let me know how it goes. My system and yours are very similar so I have a feeling that this should work.
     
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    @Terrablade @bloodhawk

    Settings the Cache voltage lower than the CPU made a huge difference. I can't thank you enough for your tips always man!!

    4.6 GHz.png
     
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    BSOD with message ( a clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within a time interval ) :/ while running wprime
     
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    lemme try running wPrime
     
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    @Terrablade

    wPRIME crashed in stability test around 70%

    Adjusted settings now, testing again...please stand by
     
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    Standing by...
     
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    @Terrablade

    test passed with -20mV for Core / -120mV for Ring

    2016-04-23_063933.png
     
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    now I will try -140mV for ring to try to bring the temps a bit lower
     
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    @Terrablade

    nope, failed with -140mV for Ring.

    So final settings = -20mV for Core / -100mV for Ring

    4.6GHz Temps.png
     
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    @Terrablade

    Is your Silicon Lottery CPU delidded like mine?

    BTW, after I changed CLU to IC Diamond for my CPU I got a 10C decrease in temps
     
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    yes its CLU and ic diamond outside

    @Phoenix the -20V core. that goes in uncore or processor?
     
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    the settings are in the first post, I updated them again

    Core = -20mV
    Ring = -100mV
    Uncore = -10mV
     
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    @Terrablade

    Great, so we have the same thermal paste setup as well.

    Is your CPU delidded?
     
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    perfect, lemme know your results with my settings
     
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    @Phoenix didnt crash but those temps are a bit sketchy :( tweak more :) :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    try -24mV on the core, leave the ring alone.

    Mind you, I am in a cafe so no cooling pad or anything, fan profile set to Overclock in Control Center
     
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