Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

i dont use cooling pads and fan is automatic...

 

when I had 980M SLI there was no overclocking fan profile unless I installed XTU (which you never wanna do) but when I got the 2nd system with a 980 GTX, I always have the overclocking fan profile. I can never figure out this mystery. That makes the fan start spinning faster

 

yes but how u go to sleep while leaving a batch of movies encoding and that turbine on the whole night... its hard.. Also im disable and i use a kind of an easel to put my laptop and prop it up so i can type, if i put a pad under it itll fall off :/

 

The Snowman Bench with his BGA PUSSY-CRUSHING KILLER again. Wprime 1024M and Cinebench R11.5 But not the best results

 

this is whats pissing me off. look how the core drops to 8x out of nowhere... I dont understand why.

 

share that config :/

 

Cool bruh! The lower cache might have a hit on the bench points though.
I mainly use my setup for rendering and effects works, so it doesn't matter to me. But since your environments are hot, it might help to hold high core clocks.

 

Said it before, gonna say it again. That is normal with Speedstep and C-States turned on. Turn off those and it will stay at 4.6, but will considerably increase the temperatures. No point in wasting power and having increased temperatures when the CPU isn't under load.
And make sure your power profile Max and Min in your power profile is set properly and that should stop it from dropping.

 

why am I the only one experiencing that? @Phoenix has speedstep enabled and he doesnt have that issue for example

 

Look at this now.... down to 41 all of them..

 

Just setup your processor states in the power profile to 100 % as in the image i posted.

 

always been like such

 

Is it setup as such for every profile, for the plugged in state?
Other than this, i really, cant see whats wrong, unless you are able to post your BIOS images as i asked before. It will be easier that way than to take guesses.

 

A new improved Wprime 32M - 4.232 sec score by BGA PUSSY-CRUSHING KILLER for the first page @Phoenix
http://hwbot.org/submission/3195813_papusan_wprime___32m_core_i7_6700k_4sec_232ms?recalculate=true

 

Mr. For = Chief Overclocking Doctor
Papusan = Overclocking Dr. 1
bloodhawk = Overclocking Dr. 2

 

oh I get that as well. Enable the AVERAGE column and you will see that your average is around 4597 or so MHz. Which means that dip to 4000 MHz happened only for a fraction of a second, nothing to worry about

 

added

 

I fixed this for you
@Mr. Fox @johnksss @USMC578 = Chief Overclocking Doctor's
Papusan - bloodhawk = Overclocking noob's + all other benchers.

Where are all Bench results on the first page? Not fun when they're gone. Why?

 

not fair @Papusan wont share his config

 

LOL. Glad to be of help, but there are so many lurkers here better than me haha.

 

Well he has put a lot of hard work and time into it.

 

guess ill have to stay at 45 until someone can find something stable i could use :

 

I want to learn but the net only has OC tuts for pc's with watercooling systems and ****... not 1 relating to laptops and how voltages work and this and that.. Im clueless to what I am actually doing.

 

Stop fiddling with the BIOS, start reading up on Throttle stop.
No one else will be able to find settings for your system, you will have to fiddle around and find the settings that work best for your processor. But yeah, start reading this thread from the beginning and the Phoenix owners thread. Thats how i learned what i know about his laptop, and same for a lot of others. If you haven't overclocked a desktop before, the BIOS wont make sense.

 

Also, overclocking 6700k on desktop vs laptop with p bios is not that different. Except you have more temp to worry about. Its the same CPU.

 

I do the best I can, As I can not afford a very expencive silicone lottery chips as others have To expencive for my wallet here in Norway

 

To be clear he is talking about @Phoenix

 

HaHa, not necessarily. But @Phoenix has has the brains to purchase quality .

 

^^^This^^^

@Terrablade - fair only applies to skin and weather. Life is unfair. The silicon lottery is a gamble and the best overclocking talent in the world can't fix a weak or defective chip.

@johnksss is our resident OC Guru. About 95% of what I know we can thank him for.

Even if Papusan shared his settings publicly (and I understand why he would not) that doesn't mean every CPU can use the same settings. My best settings work for him, but his results improve if he tweaks them. His best setting make my system an unstable mess with my CPU. My CPU cannot even boot to the Windows desktop using his settings. The 4930MX CPU I have in the Alienware 18 is an ES sample that runs better than probably 95% of the 4930MX and better than any 4940MX I know of. My best OC settings have bricked some systems and others have BSOD using the same settings.

Refer to the bolded text above, because that's critical. Having a Silicon Lottery CPU might be helpful, but it's not a guarantee of owning the best as much as a possibility of avoiding the worst. Where the art and science come in is putting in the blood sweat and tears to find out what your system thinks is yummy. If you're lucky it will have a high overclock limit and run great. If not, you'll want to start saving up for a replacement CPU. (Gee, here is another reason BGA sucks... go figure.)

I try to avoid using voltage offsets as much as possible. I don't like them, especially negative offsets. Better to invest the time in finding the right voltage and only resort to a very small offset to extract a few extra points in benchmark scores, or none at all if you don't need it. The higher you go with the OC, the less likely you are to be stable using adaptive voltage or an offset.

 

UHEUHUE, im a poor sad student working on the side. I got a decent clocker though.
I can stabilize mine at 4.8Ghz EZPZ. But beyond that i need your love and hugs. Lots of hugs, with a nice pair of breasts.

 

Off topic here.
Does any of the following, Clevo control center, throttlestop, nvidia inspector or MSI afterburner cause difficult to undo changes to the system, the way I have read intel XTU does(eg. messed up fan tables).
2)why is Intel XTU still used(by some) even with said issues
3)are certain OC software slighty preferred over others for warranty and RMA?

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And, mine can run 4.9GHz or 4.8GHz, even boot 5.0GHz, but cannot hold those clocks under load. Going past 4.7GHz it won't hold full clock speeds under load using any setting I have tried most of the time, even when the CPU is freezing cold on AC cooling. Skylake is insanely sensitive to voltage and the smallest change in voltage settings that is possible can mean the difference between success and failure. It's even more sensitive than Haswell, but thankfully, runs MUCH cooler than Haswell. Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge were far more forgiving with voltage.

 

I never understand why you want someone else's setting. I would always config it myself for my own chip.

Btw @Terrablade, I would mainly worry about temp over voltage on laptop. You arent likely to hit the 1.4v cap before your CPU meltdown.

Find the highest sustainable safe voltage, then find a stable OC.(EZ way of doing it). I personally sont do it this way, but its a quick and dirty way to find your max OC.

 

Gotcha! I did boot mine at 4.9Ghz once, but had to leave for work so couldn't validate. Ill give it a shot again next week.
The main thing that irks me is the voltage wall on my processor to take it from 4.5Ghz to 4.6Ghz.

 

1) Throttlestop, Nvidia inspector and CC are safe bets.
2) Because they have not understood that this is bloatware and that there are other and better choice.
3) Bios/throttlestop. + Perhaps extended warranty can help you if you get problems. But it's Unlikely you get big problems.

 

Using only the BIOS and ThrottleStop is ideal. XTU used to be excellent, but like so many things it has gotten to the point of being worthless feces and unreliable bloatware. I find HWiNFO64 and ThrottleStop are indispensable products. Kudos to @Mumak and @unclewebb for producing such amazing software.

I think the "Average" column in HWiNFO64 is totally worthless detail in terms of overclocking and if you don't understand it can also be misleading. I uncheck the box and get rid of it because it doesn't tell me anything important. If you only launch HWiNFO64 during an overclocking spurt, then shut it off it might be a little bit useful. If you leave it running all the time like I do, the data in that column is not useful. For example, if your CPU idles at 4.5GHz for an hour and you run a 5 second benchmark that throttles to 800MHz and has a sucky score the average is going to make it seem like things aren't "that bad" even though they are horrible. If you have c-states enabled and allow the CPU to enter a low power mode the "Average" column is equally worthless. What you want is a system that holds its max turbo clock under load forever. The average value doesn't tell you squat. Average temps are meaningless as well.

What matters with overclocking is max load temps and thermal throttling. Anything safe for average temps is fine, and anything below the thermal throttling point for load temps is fine. Burning a bunch of calories on load temps that are in the safe zone is a waste of energy. The lower your starting point is, the longer it will take to reach the throttling trip point, and this is where excellent thermal paste like Liquid Ultra and benching with AC (or outdoors in winter weather) can be most helpful.

 

Totally agree. I have tried to recommend my Hwinfo64 setup many times, but a lot of pc users have no interest in this They don't need to put it up my way... But...

Spoiler: Hwinfo64 settings

 

What's really weird is some days it will hold 4.8GHz and validate at 4.9GHz with absolutely NO CHANGE in setting. I have a ThrottleStop profile (and BIOS settings) for 4.8GHz that works on good days and doesn't on most days. Mine almost never crashes, but holding turbo clocks 100% of the time above 4.7GHz is rare. Up to 4.7GHz it is 100% 24/7 reliable with no throttling at any time. I don't understand this aspect of Skylake. It may just be inherent to the CPU.

Anyone that has a 6700K that can run higher than 4.5GHz 24/7 should consider themself to be blessed because that's better than average in the silicon lottery. Seems like binning with Skylake is that almost all of them do a great job up to 4.5GHz, but beyond that point the excellent samples are not very common. Compared to Haswell, that's a wonderful improvement. With Haswell, the golden samples are rare and the sucky samples are status quo.

 

XTU isn't that bad software at all.
It just doens't work with our 6700k. It used to work great with sandy, ivy and haswell.
And even works great with mobile skylake.
Dont know why it fails with 6700k on clevo laptop.

 

I think i had this with 4.9Ghz settings, it held well for about 15 mins and then never booted back on those settings unless i changed the voltage.
Im still trying to learn how Throttlestop works, but i was able to stabilize 4.7Ghz with great temps for 24/7 use. Gonna make it my daily driver once i get the new heat sink.
btw. Thank you for the shimming advice, that helped a lot. I ended up lapping the processor IHS as well. I just hope the new heatsink is flat and i can use CLU with it. Because after i move to LA, its gonna be impossible for me to bench at 4.8Ghz + during the summers

 

To borrow language from Mr. T, " I pity the fool" that is forever shackled with a crappy sample on a BGA platform.
The future is utterly hopeless and there is zero opportunity for recovery for such an unfortunate soul.

Awesome. Glad to hear that helped. I use copper shims for all kinds of things. I glued these on the heat pipes above the slave GPU heat sink radiator with thermal epoxy and it lowered my overclocked load temps. Going to do the same on the other radiator. Be sure to sand off the black paint first so you get good contact.




5x 30mm*30mm*1.2mm Heatsink Copper Shim

5x 30mm*30mm*0.5mm Heatsink Copper Shim

Arctic Silver 7g Premium Silver Thermal Cooling Adhesive Set (ASTA-7G)

 

OC over 45 is all up to you. Not many can be helpful at that level because we all have different cpus.

 

@Phoenix if you need to hide the benchmark results list inside the <Intel Skylake 6700K 46x4 OC Settings spoiler> in first page... Then you should change the spoiler text or put the 6700K 46x4 OC Settings in an other spoiler. Nobody will find the bench results if they are hidden, like now.

 

True, I am referring to those who helped me.

I cannot remember the username of kpaxxx but he was a great help as well sharing his 4.7 GHz settings

 

oooooops, ok boss

 

kpaxxx = @USMC578

Thanks

 

you don't need any silicon ****, you live in an igloo, nuff said

 

I will never remember it with my fish memory

 

Do you think, these will work :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400562132776?_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
These are half the dimension, but stacking them side by side should help ?