Maybe use a picture of a fish as your avatar?![]()
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Yes, those would work just fine if you already have them on hand. The 30x30 shims are exactly the right size to span all three heat pipes at once, so if you have to order a new pack of shims, I would recommend the 30x30 size because of that. This kind of mod should would work on any system as long as there is enough space so as to not interfere with the chassis or lower cover installation.
There is more than one kind of fish. Some are scarier than others. The question is, what kind of fish do you want to be?
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Maybe we can make a fish thread so @Phoenix can have several choices to get a new Avatar? Yeah
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Overclocking fish too far can make them really smelly. Thermals are very important to avoid that fishy smell. Must use CLU for best results.
Since Phoenix are made of fire, grilling the fish is a lot easier. No need for charcoal, matches or lighting fluid.TomJGX, Prema, Spartan@HIDevolution and 1 other person like this. -
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I found a way to grill fish for free:
Prerequisite: Turn off your AC in the room if you have one
1) Place P870DM-G or any other laptop with a 6700K on a Notebook cooler to give us space underneath the laptop
2) Please cleaned / fresh fish (2 fish max) under the laptop directly where the fans are blowing
3) Go into Prema BIOS and set multipliers to 50x4
4) Set voltage to static 1.37V or a positive offset of +66mV
5) Press F4 to save and exit
6) Run AIDA64 stability test for a minimum of 5:30 seconds
7) Add seasoning and spices, recommended tartar sauce on the side with a squeeze of a lemon on the fish
8) Enjoy freshly grilled fish
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PS: User @Papusan is prohibited from using this method due to the place where he lives (igloo in the North Pole)
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Sounds delicious. I bet I can cook it faster with the 4960X.
Brother @Papusan will bring the ice cream for dessert. I like plain vanilla, cherry pie and strawberry cheesecake flavors the best, but anything without nuts will do fine.TomJGX, Prema, Papusan and 1 other person like this. -
If you are going to grill fish, I would rather recommend that you ask your neighbor to borrow his BGA machine. Start up the Crapbook and run Chrome, post in the forum and then eat a delicate fish dinner with your lovely wife
Ps have you heard about raw fish? Norway have one of the wolds biggest aquaculture of salmon. I don't need a BGA machine for making me a fish dinner
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
I bet you people who have BGA laptops don't even know what BGA is and will look at you with your BGA comments and be like.....
whaaat? I have an Alienware, the fastest laptop in the world
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That's why they choose the wrong laptop over and over again. They should start reading my informative posts + see everything in my profile posts, sig, custom text and Avatar
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Well, depends on what you are measuring. That is partially true... like, go going from room temperature to TJ Max, pretty fast.Papusan and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
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Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative
I go to coffee shops these days and I see guys with their shiny new Alienware laptops and christmas tree lights thinking they are the kings of the world......then I walk in with my Eurocom Sky X9 destroyer and they be like.......what's that? I'm like, don't worry about it, just keep enjoying your Alienware because I know there is no way in heck I can convince them that Clevo, which they don't even know that is, will run circles around their Alienware expensive BGA trash.
PS: But hey, I have on site next day warranty the tech will come to my house to fix it. Really? I don't even need that because I have high end quality hardware that works!Papusan likes this. -
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Look at what Dell has done......it made the biggest supporter and fan Mr. Fox turn against them at full throttle! what a shame.......so sad......
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Yeah. Because you can't do much in a BGA machine. Everything is soldered and you probably need a new motherboard. Aka Dell's tech is nice to have. Change thermal grease on cpu/gpu in this machines is probably 2 days work. A pretty nice technical design
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@Mr. Fox
What is your opinion on the MSI GT80S ? I know it has a BGA CPU but it has dual 980 SLI (non-M) and lots of slots for storage
I hate the trackpad but other than that...... what's your opinion in terms of quality, reliability, support, etc:
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I really wish Clevo would release an 18.4 inch laptop. 17.3" is just too small for me
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I have already mentioned it numerous times. Pathetic trash. It under-performs and it is totally incapable of meeting my expectations. I was interested in having one when the product was first announced. When I found out the CPU was BGA, it was immediately scratched off my list of acceptable products. BGA turd CPUs are only acceptable for $300 (or less) disposable Walmart and Best Buy jokebooks, tablets and smartphones.
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Just randomly reading a post in their owner's lounge, I see what a big fail it is:
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We can not overclock an non-K CPU at all, unless messing with the BCLK and BIOS.TomJGX, Spartan@HIDevolution, Papusan and 1 other person like this.
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For 6920HQ should be 4GHz 4C and up to 4.4GHz 1C with 100MHz BCLK .
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So the stock MSI GT80S BIOS has 6 open multis for it's 6920HQ?
Wasn't in the papers, didn't know that.
Do you have a complete list of open Skylake chips and their multis?
Doesn't help not owning a Skylake...and every single one of my testers only has K-chips.Last edited: Apr 23, 2016 -
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I don't and never have owned a SKL either Prema so don't have a list. IIRC some of the guys posted that their SKL CPU's had extra bins. HwBot and XTU bench results can be helpful if one googles XTU and the CPU number. For instance "XTU 6820HQ" gives the following first link for me.
Then one can check the "XTU hardware" tab http://hwbot.org/xtu/hardware/380877
which shows extra bins are supported by "Turbo Overclockable True" and the number of extra bins by "Possible Turbo Bins 4"
If the "XTU Settings" tab is available the maximum ratio's can be read directly. Anonymous example for 6920HQ http://hwbot.org/xtu/settings/334486
I've never owned a BGA CPU either but besides the disadvantage of changing out CPU's by having to use a decent SMD rework station I've often wondered if they would actually be better overclockers. The PGA or LGA CPU's require a socket which has a BGA that needs to be soldered to the board anyways which means longer and probably higher impedance paths from the CPU. The BGA usually has more balls too, does that equate to less voltage loss?Last edited: Apr 23, 2016Prema likes this. -
guess new era of unlocking bga is coming
just imagine bga-owners get access to oc, someone gonna loose profit margin
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The tray price for 6820HQ and 6820HK is even identical...
Looks more like some non-K Skylake mobile chips (68xxHQ+?) are already semi-open by default, just like Broadwell, Haswell, Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge before used to have 2-4 open multis on non-XM/MX chips...only this time Intel didn't bother to tell us in the specs.
But I don't think many Clevo models even use any of those chips, unless a larger re-seller placed special orders.
If anyone actually has a Clevo model with a 6820HQ, 6870HQ, 6920HQ or 6970HQ, PM me...Last edited: Apr 23, 2016Zero989 likes this. -
Damn, had no idea the 6970HQ launched. Meh, 100Mhz slower for a better integrated GPU.
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Who could be interested in such hardware? Someone I know? Do not think so
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The short power limit is where dreams are possible. After that it's like any other HQ processor. HahaPapusan likes this.
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All my friends have been trained by me personally to not be tempted to buy junk... They have learned unlike many others as you can easily see.Mr. Fox likes this.
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Thoses are probably only staying on the skull canyon nuc and for a couple models.
The P580 integrated actually performs better than a GTX 580M but wasted on the higher end quad cores.
I believe I saw somewhere that 6820HQ was presumed to have 2 or 4 open multis.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/246907-how-mobile-i7-cpus-work-information-guide/
Second spoiler down. Apparently 6 multis for 6920hq and 4 for 6820hq.Last edited: Apr 23, 2016 -
man, all the BGA hate...... *walks away from forum with his P640RE*
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im voting for cookie monster. because im tired of seeing all the cookies go to waste and no one eating them.bloodhawk likes this.
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too late btw, i voted for ivanka already.
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as long as it was a cute kitten that died im satisfied.
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BGA PLATFORM DIED. Now intel swore to produce only superior LGA processors.Papusan likes this.
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actually, im sorry to tell you this but it looks like LGA is dead. intel is axing 10k of their employees and transitioning R&D to mobile platforms.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/19/intel_q1_fy2016_job_cuts/Last edited: Apr 23, 2016 -
hey guys, IC Diamond 7 or Liquid Ultra? can't decide.
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CLU any day. But make sure the Heatsink is making even contact with the IHS and there are no components around the die.Papusan and zacwhite15 like this.
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hey guys, i found the culprit to my forced throttling to 1.6Ghz on battery. its P States. i went into the bios and noticed that it was disabled by default, so i enabled it, rebooted and now im able to hit not only my default but also turbo even on battery. one little freaking setting caused a royal pain in my a$$.
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Just remember the cap on battery is by design to easen the load on the battery.
The BIOS just allows you to overcome that by disabling EIST/speedstep and/or overriding the SSDT by enabling 'enhanced P-states' (depending on model).
You could in addition also disable Turbo in BIOS or just manually set each multi lower in order to set it higher than the stock battery 1.6ghz but still lower than the CPUs max Turbo of 3.5Ghz...
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As long as you don't take it personal like some of the Alienware kids we can all get along just fine... understand it has nothing to do with hate for our peers and everything to do with loathing the flawed design and bitter contempt for Intel's asinine approach.
If and when BGA is all that is left in notebook space, my days of buying better notebooks will be over. My money is earned and I don't waste it on disposable trash. We have to look no further than this thread to see the inconsistent performance among CPUs. If you draw a short straw on the CPU binning with BGA, you are literally screwed on having a decent option for rectifying the problem. Homey don't play dat.
OK, this is against forum rules, so let's not venture into politics. Many (including me) view Trump, no matter how horrible his candidacy as an option might be, as infinitely better than the completely diabolical alternatives from across the aisle. Beside the fact that it is unrelated to technology, this sort of controversial discussion could make the AMD versus NVIDIA hate threads from the good old days seem very docile in comparison.
Awesome. I'm excited to hear you got that figured out. I can only imagine how much happier you must be now.
Back on topic, and with no political element... the internet is working well today.
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haha no worries fox, it takes a WHOLE lot more than a crack about BGA to offend me
. i've played COD and GTAIV online.
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So, what you are saying is we need to become more belligerent to be effective.
- Just kidding - It's all about creating enough hate and discontent to cause sufficient harm to Intel to effect change. BGA must die... then everyone will have good options... cheapskates, noobs, hardcore enthusiasts, and everyone in the middle. Nobody will have to settle for crippled garbage if they stop producing filth. Should be a win for everyone except the panty-waists that are hell bent on having turdbooks that are too thin and light to function correctly. The example of MSI being dumb enough to go BGA on a big machine like the GT80S Titan when they had an option to do it right with a 6700K is a great example of the dim future ahead of us if this foolishness continues.
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i absolutely agree with you. i miss the days of the socketed notebooks when i could buy a bare chassis and deck it out the way i wanted. i miss my MS-1719. back in the day that was a beast. i remember dropping one of the first mobile quad's in that sucker with 4GB ddr2 ram.....
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Damn, it was that simple. But why was it disabled in the first place.
As far as i can understand Cstates are needed for SpeedStep to work properly.
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C-states and P-states are totally different. Disabling C-states is awesome. I do that on all of my systems whenever possible because I want my clock speeds to remain static at all times, even when the system is idle. P-states being disabled causes performance problems.
No worries. We're all good.
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@zacwhite15 Nice that you can use your machine the way you want now. + rep for your hard work.
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Don't know about those tray prices. 6700HQ can be bought for USD260 a piece while 6920HQ is about USD360Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
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ya know, if they had the option i probably would have ordered my P641RE with the 6820HK. but such is life. next rig i get will be a replacement for my desktop.
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