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Hey don't worry about it. I was talking about the blue pad thingies under the heat sink that makes contact with important components on the GPU. They are gap fillers.

 

Oh cool. You don't have to take t apart and check. If you haven't changed anything , then that's all I wanted to know.

 

well I haven't touched them and don't know how. I hope you can make us a video. I'll send you a free virtual c00k!3

 

If your temps are normal, then you don't need to bother with changing them. I'll explain what I'm talking about in the video I'll make for you tomorrow.

 

There is always difference in the paste/pad job executed from the vendor. Had the gpu temperature been too hot in bench, I would fixed that right away. But if it ok, I can wait and do it better self for better temp later. The Processor is another matter and need new application regardless of what the vendor have performed(even with ok temperature). I always do it this way.

 

I often do optimise my pads yes, but I worry more about adjusting for a perfect fit.

 

Yeah, my processor heatsink is weird, I'll be picking up a new one today. Gonna apply CLU on that one if it's flat.

 

Got to meet @Ted@HIDevolution today.cool guy. Awesome office xD laptop heaven. Haha

 

so as i am online again i thought i'll leave some update as of what's going on on my side ^^ since i think i got a really crappy oc'er gtx980 (if i go higher that +120mhz on the memory i'll get screen flickers when putting high loads on the card) i was talking to the reseller i had my machine from. the dumbest thing i've ever done (and it was a first timer...) was that i trashed the original boxing. sooo the reseller didn't want to take the machine back (of course, i don't blame them). i replaced thermal pads etc. and nothing helped. now i settled on the situation that i just wasn't too lucky in the solicon lottery draw with my card and suddenly some support dude from the reseller writes to me a mail saying sorry for the misunderstanding, of course i can exchange the machine (the company is a real mess...but i don't care lol). so now as soon as the notebook is available they will send me a new machine and after i transfered all the data (lol) i can send back the old one...
now i think, as i already did quite a bit of work (more ssds, different cpu as it came with a 6700 only, flashed prema bios etc.) i will wait for the machine and when it arrives, test the new card on the new machine. when the new one overclocks better, i will swap it with the one of my old machine (put the new one in the old machine), and send the new notebook back to them lol.
cause i like how my machine works ( no problems etc.) except for the gpu. also, i'd have to do some modding on the boxing of the new one, since i would have to send the old one back with the box of the new one...therefor i'd have to create a new boxing label with the serial number of the old machine pwaha ^^
so, that's my story for the moment lol ^^

 

Seems like a lot of hassle to put the company through for the sake of a few Mhz on your GPU memory.

 

it is. but in the mean time they messed up other stuff so bad (we deal with them company wise as well..or better..we used to), that i have absolutely no problem doing so in this case. also, if it is just a bad overclocker i could live with it, but as i had problems with the first gpu dying on me (the bad one i have now is the second gpu in this notebook), i want to make sure it's really just the card and not a problem on the mobo. otherwise i would probably even save myself from all of this work just for a better card.

 

Yeah. @Meaker@Sager I understand why you say this in your position... But would you accepted maximum 120MHz Overclock on graphics memory? Or even the same on core?

 

I would just flash the old one to stock BIOS and swap CPU'S. That would be much less of a hassle and would take care of both motherboard and GPU issues.

HIDEvolution for example wanted the whole system back as well after my GPU crapped out, but I did a major chunk of troubleshooting my self and made sure it was the GPU that was the problem. And they agreed to just RMA the GPU for me.

 

I'd likely start playing with memory voltage at that point personally. If I got a dud core and really cared I'd buy another card.

 

I'm running stock everything cool wise, haven't removed the heatsink once on the gtx 980.

 

Hey guys, first time poster on this thread. So after deliding & pasting (currently running ICD on IHS-Heatsink), I was able to get some settings for a 4.6 GHz overclock. -25 mV offset, -140 mV cache offset, 4.2 GHz Cache Turbo limit 120 all in TS. Ran stress test for 15 min and highest temp was 85. Tried it for everyday usage playing a mix of games and having certain tasks run and highest was 78.

I have CLU, but also have Thermal grizzly Kryonaut and might just experiment with this first in a IHS-hestsink repaste and see the improvement before I jump to the almighty CLU.

Gonna try to hit 4.7 Ghz either today or tomorrow, but I was curious: is there a way to manipulate ring voltage in TS? or is this available in BIOS/XTU? I wanna knock all the extra voltage where I can. (NOTE: running off stock BIOS so not sure if it will be there). Thanks in advance!

 

@Mr. Fox @Phoenix @Ashtrix @bloodhawk @hmscott @Prema @Meaker@Sager @johnksss
Either is the job badly done, or ICD is the only choice for those who prefer a conventional paste/can't use Liquid ultra due to a warped heatsink or bad fit. Maybe a comment on this?

 

Thanks for this warning, I guess I won't waste my time reposting then and will just keep my Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut aside

 

Do not take hasty decisions bro. Need a larger base than just this measurement. But this is not promising... There is a reason why Grizzly Kryonaut is very easy to apply in relation to ICD. Aka longevity. A thicker paste will last longer have always been my conclusion. This has been proven very well with low end thermal paste which is softer than the best one.

 

FWIW, I've had Grizzly Kryonaut in place on my lappy in the sig (x7200) since Mar. 2nd, 2016. No OC'ing, but regular stock on i7-970. Idle temps range in the hi-40s to lo-50s after some light work throughout the day, which is 3 to 4C lower than my original temps at stock- http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ysis-comparison-on-x7200.557833/#post-7196431

 

Just installed the 4k Panel back and there was definitely something wrong with the old card.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8366733/fs/8330278/fs/8246052 (First one is the one with the 4k panel , slightly lower score is expected)
But the temps are way lower than they were with the old card with the 4k Panel.



@Papusan Not sure whats up with those results, but ill keep an eye out. I had re pasted my friends 980M's with Kryonaut in March and his temps are exactly the same since then. It might also be the case that the type of heat sink makes a difference?

 

@Phoenix As promised :




Forgive me for the rambling and the shaky quality, my DSLR was out of charge.

Word of advice, use this only as a reference. I have taken this apart 10's of times and can do it with my eyes closed. But if you are doing it for the first, time watch Mr. Fox's video first and then maybe use this one as a reference.
Also, make sure you wear an anti static wrist strap.

 

Yes, When you say it... The heatsink will most likely make a difference. And the shared heatsink in these modern flimsy AwBooks is not exactly God's best children . Most likely a sinner . + I've never been a fan of shared heatsink. Bigger chance for a bad fitting and uneven pressure. But we need to get more results from others before this can be determined. The application may also have something to say for the miserable result. Although temp is good in the beginning it does not mean that the job is done well enough.

 

A single result really does not say anything, it could be the heatsink, the ambient temperatures, the batch of compound.

 

Been using Kryonaut on my cpu and gpu for a month. Will keep an eye on the temps and report back 3 or 4 months from now.

 

btw. if people are in a hurry and their notebooks are out of warranty you can get a lot of replacements parts from here : (They have multiple shipping options)

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/upgrade(2,348,0)ec

Some of them are kinda overpriced, but then again its difficult to obtain certain things and if your re-seller is uncooperative then this might help.

 

We know how that worked out the last time for you with your Titan X

 

+rep. Thanks

 

I did not need to on the titan-x as it reached 8GHz. Compared to the overclock even I did on my 980M cards the one on that card made then look like child's play with more power going through a single card that 980 desktop class mobile cards running at full 200w pelt each.

When you get to that point you are truly stressing the silicon itself

 

A baby girl bench with 3Dmark11 - 18390P. Unfortunately with Windows Crap that continue to undermine the overall score.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11223208


Edit: Yet another 3Dmark11 bench, this time 18558P. Still crippled by the modern garbage pastel tile Crap from the Redmond Morons
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11223236


Stock graphics 3Dmark11 16487P
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11223159

 

New 3Dmark11-18695P for first page @Phoenix Dang. Lost a new 100 number
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11223309


Edit: Highest ranked BGABOOK in 3Dmark11 - ASUSBooK GX700VO (WATER DOCK) slaughtered by BGA PUSSY-CRUSHING KILLER http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11223309/3dm11/11155083# Nice with BGA Crap?

 

Thought I'd run a quick 3DM11 run before going to bed

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11223533

+200/+300 on GPU
4.6Ghz CPU

 

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11223309/3dm11/11223533#
2 identical system
+200 mhz on cpu gives +5% on physics
+100 mhz on gpu gives +5% on graphics

Unfair))
Ssj92, what are your load temps and ambient?

 

You gotta take in to account the fact that, @ssj92 is using a 4k Panel, that results in a pretty significant drop in points as compared to benches done using a FHD panel.

 

A 4K screen running at 1080p should score the same.

 

So, running benches with desktop at 1080p rather than native will score the same?
I really haven't tried this before. Will give it a shot today.

 

The processing for scaling the image should not impact the frame rate.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8366733/fs/8330278/fs/824605
The first one is with the 4k panel, the others are FHD.

 

I see two similar results and an amd t1090 result.

 

Weird , try this one :

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8366733/fs/8330278/fs/8246052

 

Can you try one more time with 175/400.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11908694 <- Desktop at 4k Native
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11908767 <- Desktop at FHD

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8383961/fs/8384016

This is weird :

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8383961/fs/8384016/fs/8330278#

The last one is with FHD.

 

Looks like normal result variation to me.

 

The points drop when the desktop is at 4k native.
Its like a 250 point drop.
And for some reason, the result is better than my FHD panel with the AUO 4k Panel @ 1080p.

 

Ummmm ambient was probbaly around 23C.

Max GPU temp was around 68C?
Max CPU temp was in the high 80s?

It was just a random bench I did , didn't really try. Also my RAM is @ 2400Mhz. Normally when I bench I do at least 2666Mhz (I'll try 2800 next) which increases physics score further.

This is interesting, I will have to test this out later.

 

Give it a shot @ +175/+400 with 4.5Ghz on the CPU if you can.

 

Had a rather productive night, so to speak

http://valid.x86.fr/fkm9j3
http://valid.x86.fr/p02720

@Papusan Im coming for your spot bebe.
@Prema Possible to get these on the benchmarks page?

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/11911760


I really wanted to try benching at 5Ghz, but some idiot tripped the fire alarm in the building and we had to go downstairs. Maybe next week

Question for @Mr. Fox and @Papusan sometimes when i try to bench at 4.9ghz the clock speeds drop to 4Ghz and do no stick at 4.9Ghz when doing a FireStrike Physics run or Cinebench.
However if i use TS bench or stress the CPU in any other way, it holds steady at 4.9Ghz. Which indicates im providing enough voltage, could be that its too much voltage?

 

A very nice bench scores . Great that you got replaced your old gpu with a new and beter and that your laptop work so well. As I wrote in earlier posts, Skylake is picky on the Voltage. A flick up or down can make a difference. Wprime 1024M and Cinebench R11.5 and R15 great tests of processor, but it is so that different tests make different load on the processor. You need to use several types of load to determine whether the clock speed is right vs voltage and that your cpu can hold the clockspeed.

 

My wildest bench EVER . FireStrike with stock GPU 11969P
A bench score all BGA machines have as target to beat. But unfortunately they have to overclock the graphics card to reach the goal

Spoiler: If You prefer a BGABook aka TurdBooK, Please click on the spoiler

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8390165

 

Phoenix, I have RAM G. Skill DDR4 2800MHz, checked XTU it operates at a frequency of 2400MHz, why? Tell me what do I do? You have such RAM.
Thanks.