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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    Do not rely on XTU. Rather use Cpu-z, Hwinfo64 or Aida.
     
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    hwinfo64 shows the timing 16-16-16-39 1200MHz.
    How do I make 1400MHz?
     
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    Go into the BIOS and change memory profile to XMP1.
     
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    Thanks, did so and now works 18-18-18-43 1400MHz.
     
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    Try the other XMP profile,if that doesn't work then you might have to manually set the timing and multiplier in the BIOS.
     
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    Not exactly, i basically use it because when playing DOTA2 sometimes we get matched against or with Penoy's and/or Peruvian players who instead of going - hahaha go JAJAJA or HUEHEUHUE.

    btw. thank you for the reply earlier. I did end up getting a better card this time. This heatsink is kinda messed up right now, so i have a new one coming in next week, lets see if i can improve the score and beat yours.
    Right now im trying to run FireStrike @ 4.9Ghz without the clock dropping to 4.8Ghz grrr.
     
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    It all worked out, made in the BIOS the XMP1 profile, now I have 2800 MHz. Thanks.
     
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    try living in the PH for 3 years. LULZ.
     
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    Oh gawd no.
     
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    oh god, im gonna have to stay out of that one.... LOL
     
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    Just stay away from the thread if you become sick :D. I can write for both. Although my English is not so good. I guess most people understand what I write and mean about this topic :rolleyes:.
     
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    Lol. Ya I read through it and just couldn't help but shake my head. especially for the fact that the system he bought was a clevo and he didn't even realize that.

    Sent from my SM-T230NU using Tapatalk
     
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    LOL. One of the reasons that OEM's can push out Crap Books. Many people have zero clue about what they buy. OEMs and hardware manufacturers rubbing their hands. And can trick them again and again with the same tricks. Why create something new and much better when customers do not realize what they buy?
    If people began to understand what they really buy and ended buying garbage, I think OEM * s understand this and started to create something much better. Aka socket hardware :D
     
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    I absolutely agree with you. It would be awesome to have a socketed 14in. If that had been an option I would have bought it without thinking twice.

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    Wise words.

    Here's what confuses me. I dont mind what people buy, hey if it suits you go for it, if it works just fine and you are on a limited budget or something sometimes a lot of your options get narrowed down to whats available. But if you can afford it, why are you wasting it on a brand that has almost no future? I mean there is a a big chance Alienware will shut down in a few years, what then ? At least with other custom system, you will be able to service almost every part on your own.
    Second thing would be performance to the dollar, it will definitely be good for BGA systems since they have some very good budget offerings and fully custom systems arent everyone's cup of tea. But why do you wan to waste $2000+ on something with no future.
    Dont get me wrong, im no one to tell you what to buy, but at least try to get the best bang for you buck.

    See that is the bracket where you can't blame the consumer, the BGA lines are mainly for and are very useful for those sizes. Heck i myself use a blade for travelling around and passing time.
     
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    Ya your totally right, I just miss the days when they had the mobile sockets. I remember my old school ms-1701 that I was able to drop any proc I wanted.

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    The main problem that people buy BGA, is that OEM's will continue to produce more and more Thrash. Even more people who buying garbage = Make more garbage... Finally, there is nothing but garbage to buy :mad:. People must be encouraged to buy models with socket hardware and not BGABooK's. If not, we will lose this war... Then will the next step be BGAPC's aka desktops with everything soldered.
     
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    Problem is there arent any options in the sub 14 inch category. And if you put a socket in a 11-14 inch notebook, it looses it thinness. And for some people that matters a lot, like while travelling i dont want to lug around a 15 inch notebook, when i can get it done with a small notebook on which i can sketch around and type a **** ton of text out as well. All of this while completely unhooked and sitting on a plane or a train.
    Main problem is the lack of information, and the media that cares more about looks than actually informing the consumer about whats best out there.
     
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    I understand that you can't put in a proper socket i7 in a 14 inch or smaller due to lack of space for ok cooling. But there is no reason to skip socket hardware and instead use BGA in a 15-inch or larger model.
     
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    Very true. But well, thats why the media is a problem. They just keep on gloating about looks and thickness instead of properly research good performance solution.
     
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    :D :D :D ↓↓↓
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    i totally agree, we don't need a dedicated desktop socket but they could always go back to the classic turnkey sockets for mobile platforms like they did with the core 2 series. or a modified desktop style socket that doesn't have the compression fittings and its held in place strictly by the heatsink. (though this could be bad if done incorrectly since it would warp the mainboard.)
     
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    The alternative is BGA for 14 inches or less. But not destroy a 15 inches or larger model with BGA... There is no other option who is acceptable for a desktop replacement. Everyone who buy 15/17/18 models with BGA hardware is helping to destroy for all those who want real hardware!!
     
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    your totally right, i would never buy a 15in that was BGA. thats why i considered the P750DM-G for such a long time before finally settling for the little brother due to cost constraints.

    hey guys, you know if any of our sager peeps are online today?
     
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    @pat@XOTICPC is usually on the forums during weekends. Trying shooting him an email.
     
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    Hi all,

    I have a question. I currently have my 6700k @ 4.2Ghz with a -175mV and it holds steady in benchmarks and games.
    I have found out if i overclock my GPU it initiates current thermal throttling on my CPU. Is this due to my only having a 240w power supply and cant get enough juice?
    P.s. I have Torbo Boost Max at 100w & Icc
     
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    A limit is just a limit. Increase those limits to Max and try again. If it's due to thermal throttling then check temperature with Hwinfo when you run benchmarks and use your max OC. Your 240W PSU will turn off if hardware surpasses what your PSU can deliver over time and not decrease the power. You could also buy you a cheap Kill-A-Watt and monitor th maximum power from the wall. But normally will your PSu turn off if you max out the Psu's limit.
     
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    Thanks for the reply mate. I increased the limits and the same happens. temps are good and its showing current limit throttling again. In Firestrike my CPU is about 30w and GPU about 130w

    I ran Prime for 5mins and I had no throttling at all.

    Right another update. Whenever i do a bench of just the CPU my overclock stays fixed.
    I have just put everything back to stock CPU & GPU and it is still happening. @ stock 4.0Ghz and 0 mV I get the worst current throttling. (It dropped to 3.5Ghz @ one point and 81% throttle.) This is while i'm in game, and is doing same as MrFox's video except my cpu clocks clockdown.

    If I drop change the voltage offset to what i usually have -175mV i still get some slight throttling now and again but no where as my at 0mV.

    It doesn't seem to be linked to temp because my bench runs higher than in the game. This seems to be linked to voltage somehow.
     
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    Do you use stock bios? Also remember that Skylake is very sensitive on voltage. Try to find voltage that work best on your processor.
     
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    Yeah I'm on stock Bios. Latest update. You say it is sensitive to voltage changes.
    The problem is how can I find the ideal setting if I can bench my CPU @4.2 and it be all fine and then play a game and it isn't. Im confused why I wouldn't get a throttle in a dedicated CPU bench and then when it's using a third of its processing power it throttles..... Weird!!!!!

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    If you use stock firmware, maybe your Ec isn't up to date. @Prema have fixed this in the mod unlocked Firmware/Bios as the mage.
    upload_2016-5-9_0-36-23.png
    You said the throttling is lower with - offset voltage. Maybe try different offset and test. But the main reason is EC.
     
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    I dont think skylake is more sensitive to voltage than prior cpu. It's just that clevo laptop mobo doens't hold static voltage. Not sure why but I hope it can be fixed in future bios.
     
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    is it possible to raid different brands of hard drive? my friend sold me a 1tb 5400rpm hsgt drive and i have a wdblue 1tb 5400rpm installed in my system.
     
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    Yes, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    thanks for the fast reply. could you point me to a good instructional video/tutorial on how to go about this raid thing?
     
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    Do you have the user manual? It covers RAID setup in section 6-1. Basically, from the bios menu you define your RAID.


    Also worth saying, if you decide to use raid 0 for performance, make sure you are making good backups.


    *edited to say RAID 0 for performance, not RAID 1. Thanks to i_pk_pjers_i for catching it.
     
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    Was it fixed by a newer EC, or a custom EC that Prema made? Like, would the newest BIOS/EC have the issue fixed for anyone who has it or would they have to use Prema's BIOS to fix it?

    I think you mean RAID 0 for performance, RAID 1 is mirror for redundancy which has the same speed writes but faster reads, RAID 0 is faster reads and writes.
     
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    You are right, I had a brain fart.
     
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    raid 0. so its in the manual? alright will check it out asap :)
     
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    The problem is I am on the latest

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    The problem is I am on the latest ec (I have a p771dm-g) I wondering if the update have caused current issues.

    Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
     
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    In principle, I agree with you. But, and this has already been pointed out a couple of times, if you need decent battery runtime (4-5 hours) and reasonable portability (~ 2.5 kg) there's not much choice ATM. Let's hope for really power efficient desktop CPUs in future, but by then Intel might have gotten rid of sockets altogether...

    So, for me, the P75x is out if the question. After a lot of shilly-shallying I recently ordered a P641RE for use on my 2+2 hours daily commute. I'm still a bit worried about the weak battery though, but I'll mostly run it with the dGPU "off" so hopefully it won't be too bad. OTOH, I went for the 6820HK since I'm mostly doing CPU intensive stuff.
     
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