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Looks nice! After tweaking, your cpu physics should be over 12K. (Edit: forgot to take into account win 10 overhead and comparing it to my 4.5ghz score on win 7.) My condolences on the voltages. Not bad, but not great. You'll have some fun with that little beast!!! as for modding the desktop newest driver, did you have it say no option for the physx driver?

Happy to see it coming along!

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Nice little beast And max cpu/gpu temp in 3Dm11?

 

Thanks. I have some Liquid Ultra on order and an Indigo Extreme XS kit I am going to try on it. I can probably use less voltage, but haven't given much effort yet. I know it's getting too hot with IC Diamond (not good enough for more than 4.5GHz) and higher temps is, as expected, requiring more CPU voltage. I am still trying to figure out the BIOS settings. They are remarkably different than Skylake/P870DM-G in many ways. I also want to try to tweak the memory to 2400 once I figure out the CPU stuff. For some reason if I make any changes to BCLK the machine refuses to POST. I wanted to bump it to like 100.2-100.3 just so my core clocks would be accurate, but it doesn't seem to like that at all. It works if I set it with XTU until I restart, then it refuses to POST. If I try setting it manually in the BIOS it refuses to POST. Not sure if that is normal for 4790K or not, but I doubt it.

I didn't check. I don't have everything set up yet. Had to reinstall Windows 7 because it wasn't working correctly for some reason. Physics score was like 9500 stock in 3DMark 11 and substantially more in W8 and W10, so something was definitely screwed up.

Spoiler: El Cazador

Cazador is Spanish for Hunter and he is also a comic book hero in Latin America.

 

I have the same kit laying around (IS XS), but haven't tried it yet. These machines are easy to get a proper melt, just do not let it cool too quickly or it won't make the alloy and if you run it too long too high, you could melt the plastic encasing it, showing why some split it. I'd say examine the variance in timing to let it run at specific temps for the different cooling configs after the reflow, then stop the run and turn off auto fans. They say turn it off immediately to make sure it sets for 30 minutes, but that is to maintain heat as long as possible without the fans cooling it and ruining the alloy.

As for the clock settings, good luck! if you want the answer, you won't like it (it involves letting the os control certain functions which will hit your performance and make it not worth it)! I've had up to 102 on bclk suicide runs, but able to reboot. Let me eat dinner and I'll give a run down on some bios settings to help performance. But, due to firmware/touchiness of the MB (main culprit), you'll learn to live with it not being 100.

Now, if you don't mind uefi, you can set everything except video in csm to uefi only and Windows 7 will still work. Also, for some hwbot scores, you must use Windows 7 on Haswell for them to count because of the variable reference clock and multiplier on the board/processor. I'll type more at my keyboard in a little!

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I have usually had more luck adjusting the spread spectrum to get a round figure over the base clock.

 

I don't think there is a way to do this in the Prema BIOS only in XTU

 

Even that on the zm will crash it if you put it at zero in the bios, unfortunately... But you can, at times, reduce it from 50 to 30, but I leave it because of instability and caring for other benefits over this.

It is in advanced -> Intel ICC -> bclk

@Mr. Fox while in ICC menu, disable turn off unused pci clocks if not already disabled.
Advanced-> sata config -> aggressive lpm support -> disable (also turn on hot plug for any says connect you may want to use like this now and, if you want, set the sata controller speed, although it should be fine at default).
I turn off Intel rapid start tech and you should too. This goes with disabling hibernation in Windows 7 (this feature allows it to hibernated instead of truly shutting off for faster start times and is bs).

Under platform misc. Make sure aspm is disabled (os control bs), pcie native is enabled, peci is direct i/o, and ptid enabled (I think that is default)

Under pci subsys, make sure aspm is disabled

Now comes the fun!

If you want to play with your c-states, enter cpu-configuration. It also has aes setting, virtualization, cfg lock (if you are considering a hackintosh it is important (speaking for others watching)), etc. Just make sure the acpi t state is off because the os doesn't read temps as well as direct i/o! you can play with the c-states, but not it may effect behavior of sleep is used. Also, if set wrong, after a hard ride, temp wise, it may become locked into a lower state or at 4.0 without turbo until reboot. It's a bug in the cpu, but I've only triggered it once. If you are not letting it go under 4.0 (or in my case 4.5 all the time), not an issue, so no need to mess with the c states (only issue is if balance or power saver in Windows is used for the power profile).

Now the overclocking magic is in performance tuning. The two menus to set the core is cpu overclocking and cpu core voltage. Those are the main ones you need. To set the processor to stable one overclock frequency, just set all core ratio limits to the same. Increase the turbo power time window to 112 (max allowed). Until 4.5ghz and over, stock settings on turbo power is fine, but I set 150 and 160 for those. I haven't played with the core current max much, but it shouldn't be an issue until 4.8 or above, and even then, not a big deal. Personally, in core voltage, I switched to override and set the voltage manually. If you prefer offset, then leave it on adaptive, but it will pull more than needed sometimes on some benchmarks because of the voltage request, shooting up heat needlessly.

For cpu ring voltage, set the ring ratio to 40 to start. It doesn't hit performance much, but reduce heat a lot! Because it is at 40, you can leave the voltage adaptive, unless you want to find it manually, which will take some work and it will need increased on occasion to make the core stable at higher multipliers.

In svid and fivr, turn off fivr efficiency! It will help with multipliers. (Internal pll overvoltage in cpu overclocking needs enabled for better chance at changing the bclk). Your system vid, I believe, controls the top voltage for the cpu. This needs a spread of 300-500, depending on the multiplier, over the vcore, or leave it at zero for auto.

The cpu uncore/cache/ring all relate to each other and should be similar/same values. They control the ratio the other components connecting the icm/dmi connects run at going to the core, and the voltages needed for them to be stable. Some desktop boards only let you set one of them and spans it to the others.

The system agent (not seen here, but in TS and XTU) IOA and IOD all are related to memory controller. They only allow offsets in bios for the latter two and should, at most, be set 200-250 on air. You may need that for ram oc later! Stock on most chips is .8 to.95V. This is also why 1.2V imc in taiphoon burner for xmp should be about right, but above that is pumping it harder than needed with voltage (considering you are upping the other associated voltages to reach about 1.2V anyways).

For memory OC, take note, the trp and trcd are flipped from their normal positions (second and third timings as normally read)!!! Also, the command rate is under chipset-> graphics and memory-> memory config.

While in graphics and memory, make sure the dgpu is set to gen 3 and aspm is disabled.you can turn off the c7 state if you want to here as well.

For dmi link, make sure it is disabled.
Do the same under pcie and audio config. Most of these aspm have to be on for overclocking the bclk, which is why it isn't worth it! Under pcie and audio -> advanced usb config->xhci mode is the other setting needed for hackintosh. The rest is set to your liking!



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I think there is, i remember seeing the option when i unlocked the BIOS on my own. But i have a feeling its left out for a reason, since it can be really sensitive and rather dicey to play with. On desktops its simple, but could something related to laptop motherboards.

 

From:

The GIGABYTE Z87 / Ultimate Haswell Overclocking(OC) Guide



By Sin0822(Steven B.) with contributions from Dinos22 and Hicookie.

at, I believe, overclock.net (one of my resources and some good explanations).

 

I don't have that option on the P870DM Prema BIOS brah.

 

Different chipsets and cpu architecture. You get to set the spread for the vdroop, we do not. This is a P770/750ZM crash course for Mr. Fox. I wish I had a DM to play with! If I did, I would talk about all the ins and outs of it for you! What I would recommend is find a couple good desktop guides and see what bios options map over for Skylake. Then, use that to play. The voltage limits are also very different (and higher) with Skylake. I'll pull some things together in June for you guys, if you can wait. Also, when I get ready for that, I'll need someone to pm me every menu in the Prema bios for the P870DM. I cannot guarantee what I mention in that guide will be 100% because I can't tell what is finicky with the mb components and settings (can't troubleshoot)...

For those that want OK low hanging fruit on the OC guides for skylake, read these:


http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/748...-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index5.html

DarkWizzie is a good start...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics

Microcode exploit for locked skylake being closed:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016...e-skylake-overclocking-with-microcode-update/

http://overclocking.guide/category/intel-oc-guides/skylake-non-k-oc/

These should get you started while waiting...

Edit 2: BTW, these are desktops, so use common sense on increasing or changing voltages, multipliers, etc. Laptops require fine tuning from the start, something you don't do until the end on desktop rigs, if at all for many people! Don't just throw voltages around, learn your hardware and it's requirements/limits! If you aren't willing to learn everything about every voltage, just stick to easy OC. Otherwise, learn it all and what it all means and does, including how the components on the CPU die interact and are designed... What voltages effect other components and voltages....

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FYI, we've reviewed the situation reported to us earlier today regarding plagiarized/stolen content from @Prema being posted by another member. After interviewing parties on both sides, and considering all the evidence available to us, we've banned the member, and erased all the content in question off this forum. NBR doesn't support these kind of actions or activities.

Charles

 

This is sad as i know you are putting your heart in this thing you do that said I believe everything is a gamble my friend . hose who approach you and ask you to make a custom bios for their machine can easily resell it or spread it but none of them do except for this dude here anyway I am lucky as you got to trust me with your work and for that i will be always thankful and i hope that the community can make you believe and trust in people again! Thank you for that!

 

There is, but it is hidden because it causes instability on the Skylake P870DM. We tried over and over for a very long time to get it to function correctly and finally gave up. What would happen is that if you tried to change it in the BIOS it would become locked at a goofed up value and could not be fixed except by clearing NVRAM. Leaving it hidden in the BIOS was better so those that want to use XTU to tweak BCLK can do so. We didn't want people to have to have problems by leaving the menu exposed when using it would cause them some issues.

No, it is hidden in the P870DM @Prema BIOS mod for reasons explained above.

I was referring to my P750ZM with the 4790K. I can tweak the BCLK with XTU on the P870DM, but with 0% spread set as default by @Prema, there is not much reason to. Setting BCLK with XTU on the P750ZM causes the same problems as setting it in the BIOS.

I am triple-booting the P870 and P750 with Windows 7/8.1/10 with all UEFI settings disabled and MBR drives as a matter of choice. Windows 7 is my primary OS and I only use 8.1 and 10 for the benchmarks where those return better scores because I think both of the newer OSes suck massively. I plan to use Windows 7 until the Redmond Mafia figures out how to release something better. I know some people are making the switch to Windoze OS X because they have concerns that Windows 7 support is ending, but I don't care about that. I don't care if MicroShat for support for it, don't care if they stop supporting it, and plan to continue using Windows 7 indefinitely.

Thank you for the detailed info. Awesome. Most of the settings you mention in the first part of your post I have already implemented, but most everything after the "Now comes the fun" comment is different than Skylake and will be helpful to my exploration. My BIOS default on cache ratio is 44, so I will try dropping it to 40 and see if that helps temps with the stupid FIVR crap Intel did with Haswell. This will be fun. Skylake seems to be a lot easier to overclock than Haswell. I always disable c-states and ASPM and ACPI when there is an option to do so. If there is a BIOS option to disable hibernation and sleep, I use it. I also run powercfg -h off from a command prompt and disable everything available in Windows as part of my normal OS setup routine. I do not want any form of power management on my computers. I hate sleep and hibernation features. I prefer my computers to have two modes: (1) turned on and (2) turned off. Turning it off when I am not using it is the only form of power management I want to exist, LOL.

Thank you, Charles.

 

Oh my god!
What a thief and a liar.
I really feel sorry for this.
Cheer up! You know most people love you and are thankful to you!

 

Wow. I'm so late. Why do I always find these things after everything has blown over?

I want to head a mob once. Just once. We'll all rush in yelling BANZAI using our oversized power bricks as "hammer"-class weaponry.

Anyway, @Prema it may not mean much coming from me because I'm essentially perpetually broke and can't help you out in any way whatsoever even as a tester, but I and many others here are more than thankful for what you've done. One of these days I'll be in a position to pay you back for your work, and I will.

I hope you continue to work with the community and help us out. I really don't want to think about what a laptop market without Prema mods for Clevos would be like.

*shudder* people might have to buy ASUS *shudder*

 

For me it would be no more high performance notebooks. Would have to go with a Walmart Chromebook + monster desktop and abandon expensive notebooks completely. Without @Prema the endeavor would be pointless, same as if the only left would be BGA. Do not pass go, and do not collect $200. Game over. No Yahtzee... No ASUS, no MSI, no Alienware... nada, no mas... hasta la vista, adios.

 

I said people, not us xD. Honestly though, I'm heavily considering not touching any new notebooks and getting a desktop as soon as I am able (whenever that is). Probably won't be for another year or two, but still.

Spoiler

Truthfully, I want to see Clevo's base software reach more acceptable levels before I consider a new notebook again. I thought my keyboard was broken because one of the light sectors wouldn't work; turns out it was my hotkey. Somehow, some way, the installed version got corrupted, and just wouldn't allow me to light one sector. And it's not the first time I've had it freeze backlights in an undesirable way (but have the notebook in the BIOS or after cold boot etc work properly, until hotkey loads). I've also never had my machine able to install the THX Tru Studio audio drivers if I ever use my laptop speakers. It simply fails to find a proper audio device. I've even had a motherboard replacement and it STILL would not work. My sisters each have a N155RF machine. One of their machines keeps breaking when scrolling with the trackpad, leaving the scrolling icon stuck on the desktop, requiring a reboot. The other works fine. They both used the same driver disc, same windows 7 install disc, and I personally set up each machine the same from scratch. But one machine just has that issue using the trackpad. Then there's the people with P6xxSx machines who get random BSODs caused by the trackpad driver being linked to the hotkey software as well. Clevo apparently took a whole year to update the driver to fix the issue, and then their website doesn't have the correct download on the machines (they list the new driver version but the older version downloads); at least as of a couple months ago. Octiceps told me he had to get the correct updated driver from another obscure model for a fix.

Prema is magical phoenix of helpfulness and all, but he can't fix everything, and he shouldn't have to in the first place. Laptops need more good stuff, especially if all our parts cost vastly more. 4930MX was a $1000 4770K, please.

 

@ajc9988 , thanks for your guide. Iirc, I've already set my bios as you described but I'll double check that later, maybe I'll be able to get better results.

After deliding I did another whole bunch of stress tests with Occt, wPrime, PoV-Ray , and Cinebench R15, at various multipliers. Ended up settling for [email protected] and cache@44x (helps image editing, and from 40x with -150mv offset and 44x no offset there's only a 2c difference) for 24/7 settings.

Of course I wanted to see how far I could go. While on Occt my limit is 46x, and on PoV and wPrime it is 47x, on Cinebench R15 I'm able to reach [email protected] and still have some thermal headroom to push for 49x but even at 1.4v and cache at 35x I'm not able to finish a single run. I could try a higher vcore but that would certainly result in thermal throttling. Any tips? I´ve tried messing with vccin but to no avail.

Regarding the spread spectrum, sometimes i notice on HwInfo64 that my 24/7 clocks (4.5ghz) have some spikes up to 4.6ghz - the bclk is bumped to 102mhz. Didn´t notice this when i was with XMG´s stock bios.

Here´s a table with my most recent tests/results:




Oh, btw, a month or so ago, over the P750Zm thread, i told you i was having decreased scores on Cinebench, even after reinstalling Win10. For instance, before i could do 10 Cinebench runs at 40x and get around 812cb, and now out of ten only one or two runs reach that score....most of the time i get 805, sometimes even below 800. You said that you had some ideas but you would sit on them for a while. Could you share them?


And here´s another table regarding voltages, taken from one of der8auer´s guides ( http://overclocking.guide/haswell-and-devils-canyon-socket-1150/)

 

Uncle Vernon said it best:


Thanks for keepin the forums straight boss!

 

damn just got back on nbr after a few days being offline. what a dumb f***... i know it's the interwebs - but - when i wrote to @Prema stating that the mod he so kindly provided to me will stay with me and with me only - to me it's still like shaking his hands looking in his face and telling to his face. i say so so i do so. but those principles don't apply to everyone, sadly. internet anonymousity is the worst..

thanks once again to all the great peeps on here helping and doing so much awesome work!!!

btw: @Meaker@Sager after rethinking your statement twice i stopped the exchange of my machine as it works fine. i don't oc the gpu memory anymore as it doens't seem to like it, so i just oc the core a bit in the end, even if the shop i was dealing with sucks ass, i'm not the one *****ing about their behaviour but then go down the same road ;-)
sooo, if i ever feel rich, i'll buy a second card and see what that one can do haha

cheers to all of you

 

Nice! that dude deserved it!

 

No problem. That gets rid of the majority of all power saving settings, although windows itself has to be tweaked as well, but I'm pretty sure you have those. Also, Windows 7 is supported until 2020, but this fall they are ending support for new processors (kaby lake moving forward). It is being ended on Win 8.1 also, so...

Part of your problem may be OS optimization on scores. Meanwhile, you don't have your SVID (VCCIN/RIN on our machines) up. I don't know what spread you are using there. Also, cache, by 4.9GHZ, on some machines, should no longer be negative on the voltage offset as that can cause instability! So, from what I've gathered, you've got some more playing with the cache and SVID (not to be confused with the system agent, which is for the ram) in your future. So, for example, if your VCore is 1.30, you would need between 1.6 to 1.8 (maybe 1.85V). It depends on your chip! When you start pushing above 1.9, be warry. We are not on liquid cooling or better!!!

NOTE TO SKYLAKE USERS - YOUR SVID IS 1.2, NOT HIGHER LIKE ON HASWELL! DON'T USE THESE AS VOLTAGE GUIDELINES FOR A DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE!!! HAVING THE FIVR ON THE CPU CHANGES THINGS, AND SKYLAKE DOES NOT HAVE FIVR! USE THE VOLTAGES FOR SKYLAKE. INTEL RELEASES THESE GUIDELINES FOR EACH PROCESSOR!

I do appreciate der8auer's guide, but here are others that I relied on while tuning mine and learning:
Showing effect of cache (except for some editing and other things) is minimal. This is DarkWizzie again (posted his for skylake above):
http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics
It is nice seeing how little the ring bus does for the OC score.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1401976/the-gigabyte-z87-haswell-overclocking-oc-guide
This is one of my favorites for Haswell!!! It is were my tables above came from.

This is to give you an idea of settings that are, or are not, on some MBs and what shared names are used:
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4855/5/workshop-how-to-overclock-haswell-processors-basic-settings

This, in conjunction with the one you mentioned @Samot ( http://overclocking.guide/haswell-and-devils-canyon-socket-1150/) should have everyone covered for the basics (and advanced) techniques for this platform....

 

Enjoy the machine, as it should still provide an excellent experience

 

To build on that @Samot - if the svid/vccin/vrin is on auto at 4.9 or above, it can actually, with some processors, shoot over 1.9 (some have even reported over 2.0). If your cooling is good, use auto until it can no longer be on auto, because who cares! But, it generates extra heat and can damage the cpu on air. Figuring it out also helps to dial it in. If on override instead of allowing adaptive, it may idle higher, causing slightly higher temps under prolonged loads, but you know it isn't kicking it into the danger zone and you know your hardware limits! Tighten that voltage can lower temps, too. It is really getting to know your hardware. It's like my cpu, for cache voltage at 4.4ghz, is fine matched with the cpu at 1.13V (cpu core I use 1.13V for round the clock stable @4.5), but crashes at 1.11V. The gigabyte guide says up to 1.1V for cache between 4.0-4.5. So my cpu core voltage rocks, but the cache is outside the range for it to be stable (this could also be that the voltages related to the ram need tweaked with the cache at that multiplier, which may allow slightly lower voltage, but I haven't played with that and the new ram to tease out the truth of that assumption, and the error is a general one that can point to multiple issues, including ram). So please explore what it is for your system that knocks it unstable!

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@Papusan You favourite Alienware overclocker finally settled at 3.8Ghz for gaming.

 

Some amazing prices for a few P870DM-G parts : http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=239

Specially for the GTX 980 Desktop Heatsink - $80 (Eurocom selling this for $150+)

They have parts for other Clevo machines as well.

 

Yes..., incredible 3.8GHz. I hope 3.8GHz are on all 4 cores and not 1

 

That's not far off my thin and light machine

 

Yeah...., thin and light machine

 

This one for now is, we will have to se what I get later

 

Would love to see some technical threads from you. There a very few people with actual technical knowledge and some time on the forums. If possible do write us a know how thread based on your endeavours.

 

I'm actually deciding on what to do next system wise and what makes sense for me. However I am saving for a house at the moment so my wife won't want me going too crazy....

 

Ayyy same thing one of my friends said right before he became a dad. Nevertheless, happy wife, happy life.

 

Oh, i already read those guides, except for the 3rd, thanks!

Sorry, what do you mean by not having the SVID up? Higher voltage? For [email protected] i already have tried from 1.7v to 2.0v VCCIN... I haven´t touched the spread settings, i´m using the Prema Bios default settings on that. If you notice, on the table i posted, my 49x Cinebench R15 run attempt was with the cache at 35x and no offset. It would be great to know what the default voltages are for the VCCIN/SVID and Ring/Cache on our machines, it would make it easier to follow the tables you and i posted. Will give it another go, maybe tomorrow, but i suspect i´ll have to go higher than 1.4v for 49x and thus hit thermal throttling on Cinebench. Thanks for the tips!

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11199450

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8291254

http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5404030

 

Finally removed all Cinebench scores lower than 11.69 pts in the ranking window to Cinebench 11.5 Next goal is all scores over 11.70



BTW. @Mr. Fox I can see You have fun!!

 

Jesus! Nice, how did you get your hands 2 x 183W cards ?
And whats the total power draw like?
Also are the extra phases on the motherboard going be fine without extra cooking?

 

Your 3DMark11 score is on a single 980 GTX?? Those are scary numbers bro for a single 980 GTX!! You have jumped back on the Leader's board!

 

LOL, thats 2 x 980's you oaf.

 

What I meant by the spread is the difference between Vcore and Vrin, which is often 300-500mV. What I meant about cache voltage is that there may not be enough on auto voltage for it to be stable. If there isn't enough, it will crash. Look for superKyle in the p770zm thread and his tables for cache and core voltage. He was at +80mV in cache or so near 4.9ghz on core to get it stable. It sounds counter intuitive, but sometimes the cache needs more voltage to stabilize the core!

As to why they don't, it varies by chip. More than three standard voltages for the core have been identified as default. Instead, I recommend finding stable at each multiplier for the core first. Then, find your stable cache voltage at each multiplier. This isn't just searching for when it crashes, but the optimal voltage for benchmark scores at a set cache multiplier per core multiplier. After you find these two and fully test for stability, then you can find the svid/vrin. Map it out and look for your ledge, the multiplier after which it jumps significantly to hold it compared to lower multipliers. Then loosen up the svid enough to play with the system agent and the other memory voltages to nail down your overclock. Get to know your hardware and love it! If you care about optimizing, treat it with respect and an art, as well as a science. You can fine tune this puppy! Also, on cache voltage, a sweet spot can be as narrow as 5-15mV (xtu is surprisingly good at helping to optimize cache voltage sense voltage efficiency is part of the benchmark)!!! So decide how deep you want to test, but after you get it down, so long as heat degradation doesn't happen, you'll be set (and have a table to reference for full stability at any multiplier you can pull out for benchmarking).

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@Mr. Fox not fair, Answer the other 2 questions at least, pretty please. This is some exciting ****.

 

Another round of 11.71 pts in Cinebench 11.5 Maybe a better score tomorrow Soon No score under 11.70

 

Go away, this thread is about @Mr. Fox now.













HAHA jk, you are awesome.

 

I've had them for many months and testing firmware mods with @Prema. I don't own them... they belong to Eurocom. The chassis and heat sinks had to be modded to fit in the Sky X9E Über-beast, but the challenge is cooling. My heat sink mods were pretty extensive, but still not enough for normal use. This configuration, should it ever be released, will require a completely redesigned heat sink to cool them adequately for normal use. Even with AC cooling they reach normal gaming temperatures for a typical laptop.

The phases are fine. Power draw varies based on driver. The newer the driver is, the less power they draw and worse performance they produce. My speculation about that is that NVIDIA is tinkering with the drivers to reduce power draw to help the MSI Titan be more functional since it has a crippled power delivery system and cooling challenges, so reducing the power draw should help it work better. It is the only 'official' release with these GPUs in SLI. We also have to consider 1080M is soon to be released and we all know how the NVIDIOTS like to falsify records using cancer drivers to make their new stuff look better, and this could make 1080M look less attractive.

Using 362.00 drivers we saw total power draw north of 800W and I was using a quad 330W AC adapter setup for those benchmarks. Triple would have been enough, but I wanted to keep everything balanced with two dual AC adapters connected together, and both of those connected to a third AC-100 converter. The phases had no problem with temps. It runs like an absolutely insane bat out of hell, literally.

They are some pretty nice numbers, but 980 SLI. Eurocom asked me to send everything back to them. The testing is over now, so I went ahead and posted these secret benchmarks since I won't have access to the Sky X9E or those GPUs any more. I have no insider information about whether or not they will be releasing this to the public. I felt the least I could do is get the glory of being the first to post the results if they do release it. I'm sad to have to send them back, but that's life in the fast lane.

They have been trying to develop a heat sink good enough to keep them nice and chilly, and I don't know if they are still working on that or not. It's top secret and I am not on a need to know basis. I'd absolutely love to have this configuration if it could ever be cooled well enough to use it as a daily driver. With my backyard heat sink mods it was only useful as a AC cooled top fuel dragster laptop, LOL. I'd love to see @johnksss figure out how to get a pair of these shoehorned into the P570WM, but based on the space requirements, need for auxillary power and extreme cooling needs it would be a massive frankenbook project.

 

@Mr. Fox You kill that flimsy BGABook in 3Dm11 http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11199450/3dm11/11135145


@bloodhawk Be happy that I have a good color vision and could see the text low in your post. Could become angry with you if not!!

 

Yup, rapes it, tears its gut wide open and leaves it to bleed out in a ditch. Devastating abuse dealt to the crippled MSI Titan. It reminds me of the first cut-scene in the new DOOM game where he grabs the demon's head and slams its face against the side of the operating table and smashes his skull, LOL. Such a shame, too. That machine had huge potential to be awesome, but they botched it up, big time.

Like this video at 1:45 (what @johnksss does to the rest of us, too)

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Almost there, still a little low on GPU Scores

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/11199450/3dm11/11241548#



Which is easier to transport? The GX800VG with it's cooler in it's roll around carrying case? Or, the P870DM with it's portable air-conditioner pedastal?

 

LOL... as I mentioned in the previous post, cooling has to be addressed with new heat sinks. Stock 980M heat sinks cannot be modded enough to handle it properly. I'm lucky that my mods and AC cooling allowed me to bench it overclocked like that. The 200W 980 has 6 heat pipes, two radiators and two fans. That's with only 3 heat pipes and LOTS of extra copper added to have a place to send heat away from the GPU. It needs a thicker heat plate and at leat 5 or 6 heat pipes for each GPU. It may never even be released to the public... I have no idea. Only time will tell. But, it sure was fun to play with.

 

It's totally awesome that you could make it happen.

Thanks for sharing it with us all too