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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

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    Yep
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Yes.

    Edit: Ninja'd.
     
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    Ok, lets wit for the carats to arrive.In the mean time if this goes haywire again with the settings @bloodhawk gave me, ill go back to stock until i get all parts here and ready to mingle.
     
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    Give those a shot, but i doubt they will work for you, since your processor seems to be needing more volts.
     
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  5. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    @Papusan reading the reviews, it does not have a lip or clip or something to prevent it from falling off the cooling pad when you tilt it. I have to tilt it because I mostly use it in bed because I am Disabled. So that one wont work for me
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I was reloading windows. Install was fine, but it had an issue updating windows and paused. I turned it off. Now I have a no boot solution. No bios beep code. It turns on, runs for a little, then restarts. I've tried cmos and ec reset, switching ram, taking out all hard drives. So, what does that sound like? Any recommendations?

    Edit: I'm waiting to pull it apart to try a different cpu until I get more TIM, same with testing a different video card in the machine.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
  7. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Umm, tried the full power drain? This happened to me once when my 980 was failing (your issue might be different), after a complete power drain it booted up.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I did battery out, cmos battery out, ac unplugged, hold power for 30-60 seconds, let it sit for a minute. No go. Other weird thing is it tries to boot the second you plug the ac in.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    This is a NON problem!! Use rubber feet or other similar that are large enough on top of the cooler. Place the laptop feet directly above it!!
    upload_2016-6-18_5-37-2.png

    And use similar as my free filters (from my wife's nylon stockings)!!
    upload_2016-6-18_5-42-40.png
     
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  10. bloodhawk

    bloodhawk Derailer of threads.

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    Im at a loss, maybe re seat everything. At this point i went bananas and disassembled the whole system xD
     
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    Im about to smash this crap. Same thing as yesterday happen. Took CMOS out held power button. Put everything together. Turn on hit yes on all msgs. It boots to where u can go to bios but when you try to go to windows stays a black screen. Won't go to windows.. Wtf
     
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    Were you on raid?

    Also in the BIOS, is UEFi turned on ?
     
  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    With or without OC?
     
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    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    No just turned on to put memory in xmmwhatever 1 since I have the gskill or whatever the freaking name is.. I'm about to go berzerk and get a hammer. Now not even boot option.. Back to CMOS reset

    Back in with stock ****. going to go to bios and just change the memory profile... does the overclock feature need to be enable for that?

    you mean to put something though the holes that can hold the laptop from the back part where the rubber parts of the laptop are?

    And what the heck are those stockings for? :chatterbox:
     
  15. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Yeah..., I use my wife's used nylon stockings as fan filters. For me... Free!! :p You can use different rubber knobs and filter than what I use. The knobs can easily be attached to the holes in the cooler with screws or similar.
     
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    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    I see... ok.. and are those 12v fans?
     
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    Yes. But you can use 5v fans if you find decent quality fans(The org U3 5v fans is useless). The main reason for using the cooler for me... Never dust in my laptop!!
     
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    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    Where did you get them 12v fans? so i can go take a look
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I bought it in a web shop here at home (Norway). You can find some similar good fans in web shop you use. Choose high air flow, High static pressure + the noise level you can accept. More noise = Normally better air flow :D
     
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    Would need a reference.. since not all 12v are the same size.. so if you can guide me there on the size et al
     
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    Or fans with higher performance :D. If noise is not a problem if your better part sleep!!! :p Do not forget that they are 12v.
     
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    Are there any of higher performance that fit that cooling pad? just gimme the link im all gun ho at the moment.. ima try to freeze this cpu however i can.
     
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    Yeah. No problem. Google 120mm Delta fans = High noise, Very high air flow and high static pressure. Delta fans is monsters :eek:
     
  26. Terrablade

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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001

    Thats too BIG for that cooling pad.. it wont hold 3.... or even 1 lol

    Holy Guacanole i saw a video of 1 of them on.. thats 59db.... that would wake up the whole town HAHAHAHA... Ill stick with the 12v ones :D
     
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    That mod is not that easy. There are a lot more thing that go into it.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    can only find 120x25 or 120x32 all others are higher or lower :/.... http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g36/Fans.html

    Dont tell me i need to make the holes bigger to fit them?

    can only find 120x25 or 120x32 all others are higher or lower :/
     
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  30. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    It's enough about fans in this Oc thread now!! :D Buy the best performing 120mm x 25/30/32mm fans you can find... All fits the U3.
     
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    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    Understood. Thanks

    Lol i got a better cinebench score with 43x than with 43x... from 10.24 to 9.56 thats awfull

    @Phoenix making fun off me :no:
     
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    nope, it's not always about the highest overclock, it's about the best overall experience that makes you happy with your machine :)
     
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    Doesnt make me happy that its slower.. im trying to achieve a higher mark not a lower one.. :wideeyed: but i wont push it past 43x if it even holds till i get the ic diamond and the cooler
     
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    :rolleyes: :eek: :D As long you haven't *** ;)
     
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    I just downclocked to 4.4 GHz from my 4.6 GHz after getting random disk errors. Sometimes AIDA64 stability tests and wPRIME are not all you need to verify the system is 100% stable.

    I'll take a stable 4.4 GHz (Devil's canyon clock speed) any day over a 4.6 GHz. OC that is only stable in stress tests but not real world usage.
     
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    if they could just have water cooling for laptops.. or some freezing agent stuff :D
     
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    ASUS GX700 and GX800 has water cooling but I had very bad experiences with every ASUS gaming laptop I've owned so...
     
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    Sadly Asus does not have the rigs Clevo/Sager has... cant get SLI and a bunch different stuff... And just the way MSI is configured with no palsm rest amd a huge dead space on top its a turn off, also cant upgrade to next generations like you can with these rigs.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I already know the answer: switch out cpu and video card. If same behavior, motherboard is dead. If it boots, switch in either the cpu or gpu currently in the machine to see which of those failed. If mb failed, see if a local computer shop can test the cpu for me for failure. If it failed too, then I'm going to make sure port holes match and turn my ZM into a DM (which is mb, cpu, eDP screen and cable and ram), unless I can find a better deal on used machine or do a desktop build. So now it is getting TIM and testing. .. I just wanted to see if someone thought of something I didn't.

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Overclocking place in Amsterdam airport (my traveling few days ago):

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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Johnny blue, although good, isn't my style. Give me a McCallan over 25 years and I'm loving it. I also love bourbon, too!


    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Now this and @Terrablade 's SL CPU's really make me doubt the use of these binned CPU's in laptops. Its still a hit or miss if they will even be stable at light OC's.
     
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    I have a feeling that if you're born unlucky, you'll always be unlucky even if a Silicon Angel himself got you the CPU. I have never been lucky
     
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    Trust me man im neither lucky nor unlucky. Basically the poster child for "work hard/will power/reap what you sow etc etc etc blah blah" (at least according to my dad haha).
    But looking at SL CPU's being used in laptops i haven't seen a single good example, but however from the google sheet i posted earlier, a bunch of those were using SL binned chips and got amazing results on desktops.
     
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    well let's put it this way, at least the SL CPU enables me to even run 4.6 GHz at max temps of 85C, the non SL CPU could not even do 4.4 GHz on all cores without going nuts. Now @ 4.4 GHz. with the SL CPU, it is super stable. I can run 4.5 GHz easily with 100% stability but I don't like odd numbers so I stick to 4.4 Ghz. Devil's Canyon territory :p
     
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    Hmm, have you tried the OC's on the SL CPU without the RAID setup ?

    From experience, RAID - 0 has always caused issues for my friends when used in their laptops.
     
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    100% stable with no RAID 0 brah.
     
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    @Terrablade

    Even @ 4.4 GHz with all power limits and turbo power maxed out, I noticed that sometimes in HWiNFO the CPU speed dips to 800 MHz then goes back up to 4.4 GHz.

    Fixes this by disabling C-States

    Please disable C-States on your machine
     
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    Ok this is weird, you guys are definitely doing something wrong.

    Hit me up with your exact settings. It should not be doing that.

    And C-States is a very good thing to save power and reduce thermals.
     
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    -30 mV offset for Core/Ring
    PSYS Max Current Limit = 8191
    VR Current limits for Core, ring, etc all set to 8191
    Power Limit 1, 2, 3, 4 = 300000 with 1s time limit window
    Turbo Power Max / Short Turbo Power Max = 220000
     
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