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Yeah the Phobya's will work just fine tbh.

But the 2nd PSU isn't really needed. The bench that i posted on the last page, was on a single PSU. And no one is going to use even those type of crazy clocks for 24/7


Btw. @Phoenix front page bebe.

 

tell me what to fix bro

you have to spoon feed me like a baby as I'm lost

tell me change what, to what

 

FireStrike GTX 980 ones to :

Spoiler: Spoiler

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13065995

 

Beat you long ago! http://www.3dmark.com/sd/3665979

Edit: I've got lower graphics but beat your physics score!

 

That was the first time I have run it on this machine. I'll see if I can fix that. CPU was only running 4.5GHz.

Edit: and throttling like crazy because of the crappy heat sink. It's a brand new, too. Piece of junk, LOL. This thing has the worst cooling system of any high performance notebook I have ever owned.

 

I'm sure you will! Just wanted to throw it out there since I saw it. It's a damn good run....

 

I might. Getting really frustrated with the crappy cooling system. New heat sink fits much better, but the unified design and tiny radiators are very dumb.

 

Does it share a pipe with the GPU ? OR was that in a different system ?
I did something very stupid for the benches last night
Dry ice pouches.

 

Mine was at 4.5ghz also, and a lot of the physics is likely the OS! Sorry to hear about the same BS, new heatsink. I'm on my third (which I'm sure you can believe)! I'm a little pissed at the cooling design, too. The 870 has much more fin depth (don't know about height) and a WAY wider plate it seems. The only thing I can think to fix the unified design (which isn't bad in theory, but likely bad in application) is to start with a solid block and mill it specifically to my equipment (direct contact on all parts with thermal pads) and slightly thicken the heat pipes. The true fix is to 3D Print a new bottom with the same port layout but the heatsink portion coming out like on a classic car. This allows for larger fans to be put in and more fin depth (maybe even more height for the blower fan. So, basically, a new chassis and heatsink would solve the problem (LMAO)!!!

Edit: @bloodhawk - did you freeze the pipes or get crazy scores? Meanwhile, under 10C compromises your CLU to some degree, in case you didn't know...

 

Didnt even noticed i put Vram.... and yes it is the VRM'S... So 1 or 2 inches.. Thanks.. The one that comes stock is quite thick but is so ****ty its painful...
Thanks

 

What no!
Not inches. Millimeter.

 

OK, I fixed that for us Brother @ajc9988

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13087114

 

come on you got what i meant there lol... if i see a 2 inches thermal pad i would know it would be huge rofl

 

Always glad to see it! After I get some more clu, I'll have to bench some. .. just still debating a custom heatsink or back to the sanding block. ..

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Yes, absolutely, Windows 10 sucks where physics performance matters. Even at 4.7GHz Windows 10 loses to Windows 7 at 4.5GHz.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/sd/4173087/sd/3665710

P870DM has a very good cooling system as long as you get good heat sinks. I've been lucky both times. I am not sure I'm interested in continuing to deal with the crappy cooling system on the P750ZM. I like doing mods and stuff, but only when I am starting from a good foundation and taking good results a step further. I don't like fixing somebody else's mistakes and the cooling system on this model is not a good foundation to start with.

Have you thought about a peltier? Maybe solder directly to the AC input jack and take the power directly from that. I think I'm probably going to just reset the BIOS to stock and put the weak 970M back in mine and use it as a basic notebook and playing games. With the P870DM and all of its performance I just cannot get excited about benching this one because of the thermal management issues. This new heat sink fits the CPU pretty well and I was able to use CLU on it, but the heat sink is so small and under-engineered that it cannot get rid of the heat fast enough.

 

Dry ice pouches man. Dry ice pouches.

 

I found that score after I posted, just didn't want to repost.

As for the cooling, I agree. It is better to have a good foundation to start, but in trying to go thinner, they blew it...

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If you start encoding will your temperatures hold at 48x? Note at 4.6 i passed every stress test done.. From A to Z.. as soon as i started encoding, VR thermal started crying.

 

Yes, but not on this little 15-inch machine unless cooling on AC. It cannot handle that kind of load without overheating. But, with the P870DM that's not a problem at all with good fitting heat sink and CLU. As @ajc9988 said, they blew it by trying to go thin with the P750ZM. Thin and high performance cannot co-exist gracefully. Everyone that has tried it has failed. Bulk is required if you want awesome... the price of admission.

 

Im talking about the P870DM.. i Got the P870DM-G and at 46x i passed everything till I started encoding. delided cpu, ICD 24 carats, U3 with the 3 vardar 3k rpm fans, and as soon as i start encoding a movie, i see the tears of the vrm's.. Pissing me off.

 

Yeah, 4.6GHz is a little much for IC Diamond to handle. CLU is the only TIM that's going to be able to manage that to the best of the machine's ability, but only if the heat sink fits nice.

 

Your voltages are too high. Try settling for 4.5Ghz instead of 4.6Ghz. Every processor has a voltage walls after which it needs way more than normal voltage to gain any further clock speed. For some its @ 4.6Ghz , for most @ 4.5Ghz to 4.4Ghz. For your use going down 100Mhz will not really make much of a difference.
Try 4.5Ghz @ -75 or something.

 

So, two new world records for the 4790K paired with single 980M. And, now I think it's time to go night-night.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13087595

 

My question is what does the cpu has to do with the vrm? the cpu doesnt show overheating or nothing, also it looks like this heat sink sucks since i showed how CLU got burnt into the heat sink. waiting on a quote by HIDevolution on a heat sink

 

That's exactly what I did. I can benchmark at 4.5 and play games but as soon as I tried to re-encode one of my move rips it would crash, or get too hot and throttle if I raised the voltage to compensate.

I bet the guru's on here could get more out of it, but honestly for my uses, an extra 100-200mhz won't make any difference anyway.

 

Maybe the thermal pads are not making proper contact?
Take the thermal pads off the heat sink and then place it on the components and then put the heat sink back on.

Skylake is very sensitive to encoding. That is why encoding is actually a better stress test than anything else. I always test my overclocks by rendering something out in After Effects. Any issues immediately lock up the system.

 

I test my overclocks with benchmarks. I don't really need an extreme overclock to be stable with encoding. Encoding is fine around 4.1 to 4.3GHz. Even if it is stable, pushing the overclock too much can degrade the quality of the final product, with audio and/or video artifacts. And, since I don't get any scores or points when encoding, it doesn't really matter much.

Well, might as well make it 3 before bed...

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11400069



http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13088122

 

Having trouble quitting for the night @Mr. Fox? lol

I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that. I may spend a whole evening tweaking and not get anything else done around the house or with my games.

 

LOL, yeah. But, I'm really going to bed now. Keep falling asleep at the keyboard and waking up to find these benchmarks finished, ha ha!

 

Just a very efficient way of getting through each test IMO

 

Neah nothing like freezing. But wrapped some dry ice pouches in paper towels and made sure they made proper contact with the GPU heat sink surface. Dropped the temps at +310/+500 @ 1.3V to 40C from the normal 70C
Broke Mr. Fox's FireStrike high score : http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13065995

 

Nice! Dry ice is cool. (Pun 100% intentional.)

 

bah some games are crashing on stock speeds....no idea why?!

 

So, just out of the blue? The games themselves are crashing or the games are causing Windows to crash? Have you tried to roll back to when it was stable using System Restore? Hopefully, you'll have a good one. When I need one there are usually none available for some reason. If Windows is crashing, are you getting a STOP error error message you can share with us? Depending on what the deal is, Windows 10 might have just taken a crap on you. I've had Windows 10 do that to me several times. That's one of the reasons I don't allow Windows to update itself. Too much drama to put up with on the absurd notion of Micro$oft giving a rat's ass about my security.

 

yup, it's just random. i was in forza and it CTD mid race and i checked the event viewer and it said the display driver crashed and recovered....no idea if the overclock attempts damaged the 980 already or if i need to reinstall windows.

it's happened 3 times in games and the other times were me trying to overclock.

 

Not likely overclocking did anything to harm it. That's is a very robust GPU and you haven't pushed it far enough to hurt it unless there was something already wrong with it. It's probably a GeFarts driver issue. Are you using the latest @j95 mod or one of the stock drivers made for peasants?

Be sure hibernation is disabled in BIOS and GPU Performance Scaling is enabled. If there is a Windows glitch and your system hibernates it will save it and hang on to the glitch forever. Best to just turn that stupid functionality off completely at the BIOS level.

 

the reseller did test it and if there was a problem it would have already been remedied.

the stock ones. if you can point to j95's mod then i'll give those a try.

OS reinstall is a last resort.

there's no driver crashing in normal desktop mode....just games and i am using 368.22.

 

Tech|Inferno is down for maintenance, so I can tell you what to do. If I give you the link it won't work at the moment. I will PM you the INF files and instructions if I need to. About to jump in the shower and run a quick errand, so give me a bit to do that and I'll be back in touch within an hour or so, bro. If T|I is still down I will provide what you need.

Edit: Here's the link in case it comes back up while you are waiting for me.

https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...er-support-modded-inf/&page=50#comment-143321

 

I'm heading to bed. Work beckons.

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With your not so maxed Overclock in bench, I can't see the graphics is destroyed. You need harder pushing than what you did.

 

OK, PM sent. When you get up it will be there for you.

Another thought for something you can check, if you have the GPU set on Adaptive power management mode, try High performance, or vice versa.

My brain said yes, but my body said no, LOL. Kind of like, "the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak."

 

Use DDU to clean the drivers and reinstall them again to the ones @Mr. Fox sent you. Also you will need to disable driver signing to install them.

 

If you turn all that crap off in Windows 8.X and 10 you don't even need to do that.

I run these commands as part of my initial OS setup routine and with the last three in the list I don't have to. It's permanently disabled, unless I run sfc /scannow and then I have to run them again just once, then reboot, and DSE is dead again.

Code:

bcdedit.exe /set useplatformclock true

bcdedit.exe /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy

bcdedit.exe /set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS

bcdedit.exe /set TESTSIGNING ON

bcdedit.exe /set nointegritychecks on

 

Ah !

Unfortunately I need driver signing enabled for some if my work applicatiins.
But I'll use this for my bench marking install of W10 ! Thanks for the tip!

 

You're welcome.

Look at the power draw of this severely overclocking 980M. Over 200W, LOL. That was with Sky Diver benchmark.

 

@thegh0sts - did you get it figured out, bro? It;s up again, so the link above works fine now.

 

I think you saw the AW gone backwards thread. Oc'd 980m in Aw15 didn't go over 200w. Under the power draw in your bench only for the graphics

 

That's probably a good thing. As poor as quality control seems to be with 980M it would suck having the GPU die in a BGA turdbook.

 

But it's thin Even with screen brightness and all colors on keyboard turned down/off can our P870 push +415w in bench. Even with single 330w psu. The 330w is a very high quality psu. Much better than the flimsy 240w. I blow 2 of my 240w in bench with my AW17... Not a quality product. Flextronixs if I remember correctly!! Dell prefer that brand for their 180/240w psu now. Why?? Probably because shaving of +- $ 3 in costs