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    Clevo Overclocker's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    Fan is fine, and what troubles me is the fact that only crysis 3 ( an old game ) is the only game so far doing so. Killing floor 2, Doom, Call of duty BO3, etc etc dont even cause a hiccup with the temps :/
     
  2. ajc9988

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    It primarily affected LVDS screens and these are all eDP screens. I believe every 120hz display has been eDP...

    I believe there is also an older version that is relatively safe that @Mr. Fox mentioned multiple times on different threads. I haven't tried it yet, but may in the future...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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  3. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, this version is safe for LVDS panels. EVGA_PrecisionX_4.21.zip

    And, here's this...

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Oh look at those nice clean clocks! :)
     
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    Yes, brother Fox and I had a conversation about his current clocks.. ;)
     
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  6. Mr. Fox

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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Fix mine as well, I'm tired of not seeing an even 5.0 number. :D
     
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  9. Mr. Fox

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    Here's a single 980M world record in Aquamark @ 5.0GHz and GPU at 1500/1800

    http://hwbot.org/submission/3309866_
    [​IMG]

    wPrime 32M passed at 50x4
    [​IMG]

    I cannot get Fire Strike to pass at 50x4, but here is a 49x4, second place on HWBOT.org behind single 980M on Brother @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER and his Xeon powered P570WM.

    Looks like 1500 or so on GPU core is my max with a 1.250V limit (driver crashes due to lack of voltage). I think it will take 1.275V or 1.300V to hit 1600 on core.

    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10096081
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I could use that fix, too! :)
    Nice scores. Sometime after I add on VRM and get a firmware for more than 1.2V, I'll give it a go...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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  11. Mr. Fox

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    danke shön - will have to throw it on the AC unit and re-validate 50x4
    [​IMG]
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I definitely need that fix! Only way I've beat that in clock sets is turning on all the aspm crap and knee capping all benchmarks which is why I couldn't do it)...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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  13. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Alright guys, I think it's time I officially uninstalled XTU and moved to ThrottleStop.

    Thing is, with my current XTU set-ups, whenever I seriously stress the CPU/GPU at some point in time during my gaming, the speakers emit a very loud, low-pitched buzzing sound and whatever's on the screen freezes, and the whole notebook quits, and restarts. When I restart XTU, turns out the active profile has been reset.

    What gives? Right now, I want to make my processor run at not more than 3 GHz while drawing as little power as possible when unplugged, while going up to 3.5 GHz (stock) when plugged in. However, in the latter case, I want no throttling whatsoever. Is this use-case possible?
     
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  14. Meaker@Sager

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    It's the spread spectrum doing that to the clocks, it spreads the EMI from the notebook over a wider spectrum making it easier to pass regulations for maximum interference.
     
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    Yes possible.
    With mighty throttlestop you can do that.
    I use 4.5 when pugged in , and 2.0 when battery is used.
     
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  16. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Of course. But what do I do to solve my first problem?
     
  17. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    If you look, it is set at 100.08, more than the spread spectrum which usually will bring it to 100. Although I could be wrong, that is why I assumed it was changing the clock speed and not just the spread spectrum...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
  18. Mr. Fox

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    I set that in the BIOS, which is why it showed 100.08. The default spread on the mod is like something like .1% so 50x still wasn't 5.0GHz, but almost. It will fluctuate a little bit up and down and that's normal. The memory was reading 2400 exactly and 50x4 is like 4998MHz, or there about. This is true pretty much universally. I've never seen 100 actually equal 100. It's always off by a little bit. But, I'd rather have it be a little more than a little less. And, it's nice that the machine is actually bootable after changing BCLK now. It never was before. Any BCLK change on the P750ZM rendered it unbootable and required a NVRAM reset, but that is fixed now. Hail to @Prema, our firmware lord and our deliverer from the filth of retarded OEMs.
     
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    Sorry, that is not active on the P870DM3/2 as of yet.
     
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  20. temp00876

    temp00876 Notebook Evangelist

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    Here's some OC benchmarks of the P870DM2...I was running at max fans, room temps between 18-20C.

    TimeSpy http://www.3dmark.com/spy/426117
    FireStrike http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10119007
    FireStrike Extreme http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10119197
    FireStrike Ultra http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10119288
    Skydiver http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4296097
    Cloudgate http://www.3dmark.com/cg/3782971
    IceStorm http://www.3dmark.com/is/3936954
    IceStorm Extreme http://www.3dmark.com/is/3936981
    IceStorm Unlimited http://www.3dmark.com/is/3936962
    3dmark11 Entry http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11568507
    3dmark11 Performance http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11567233
    3dmark11 Extreme http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11567554
     
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  21. Mr. Fox

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    Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

    Here are some new single 980M records for the 15-inch baby beast. Beaten only by P570WM with more hexacore or more cores.

    Can't quite make it to 1550 on core, but the additional voltage did help.

    Straight up tie in 3DMark 11 against P570WM with 4960X. http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/9208097/3dm11/11568175

    [​IMG]

    3DMark 11: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11568175

    [​IMG]

    Fire Strike: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10122415

    [​IMG]

    Sky Diver: http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4296564

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. temp00876

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    Very nice 980m scores, it is like a stock 980.
     
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  23. Meaker@Sager

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    [​IMG]

    More tweaks to the cooling system. Heaven looping on both, removal of the foil over the 2nd fan on the left.
     
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  24. Mr. Fox

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    Thank you for the good example of why removing that silly foil is the right thing to do. Some folks did not think so. It was helpful on the P870DMG, but appears to be even more so on the P870DM3. Being able to breathe is always a good thing. Clevo really should just eliminate that. It provides no benefit that I have ever been able to see.
     
  25. HarounKobeissi

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    Are these done in Prema mod? I am getting my first CLEVO P751DM2-G, is this overclockable without Prema mod since there is none for this model? Putting a i7 6700k in it, has 1060 GTX, 2133 MHZ kingston impact ram 16gb.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

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    All stock firmware so far :)

    I will have to switch to single 1080 and do a comparison, it could be interesting.
     
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    EDIT: Wrong thread.
     
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    @Mr. Fox, why can you clock your 980m so high is it modded ;)? Cause mine seems to went apesh*t +100core clock is the max i can get out now without blackscreening, upping the voltage seemed to fix it at first but after some rounds of Overwatch some days ago it did the same, so right now 1225/2900 it is then. 1240/2500 e.g. black screens, i quadrochecked my thermal pads already and they look very fine, probably the ASIC makes some problems 75% with too high stock voltage (?) 1.062v. Wanted to do some Firstrike but right now i'm getting 9700 maximum :mad: wanted to get at least to 10996 i did with my P751DM i had only some days before selling, could do about 1400/2900.
     
  29. CaerCadarn

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    Just out of curiosity: did you try raising the voltage bar far to the right and raising clocks in small increments then? If yes, then you probably got a lemon card, right? :oops:
     
  30. Scerate

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    seem
    tbh i first thought raising the voltage like i described helped for a merely OC of 1250 but even increasing the voltage further it just accelerated the black screen crashing. I know that on the 980m black screens are related to the VRMs and my GPU is pretty hotheaded too, stock at about 70°C application is almost perfect but even that 70 °C shouldn't be an issue. When building my own custom bios for my 980TI Lightning i noticed i got blackscreens too when there was too little voltage, normally it would crash with DTR messages, but i just noticed it so i thought, hmmm maybe it works for my 980m too, but isn't a game breaker for me right now, i just wanted some benching to break my old record and get to 11k FS. Looks like i just have to wait for some proper 120hz displays then when opting for a P775DM2/3 with 1070/1080 dunno yet. Built a P650RP6-G for a customer yesterday and wow that 1060 really isn't that bad, OCing doesn't boost the card too much i noticed but for the average gamer it's a very very nice device.
     
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    Hm, that's unfortunate then! Dunno if @Mr. Fox is sporting the supermodded 980m (980 Core + vRAM's) frankensteined card right now?
     
  32. Mr. Fox

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    Mine still has a 980M core, but it has been hard-modded. An ordinary 980M doesn't overclock like this. The retards at NVIDIA artificially cripple everything they touch. @Prema firmware helps immensely, but magic firmware will not grow missing testacles.
     
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  33. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, it is modded. There is a huge amount of variance between 980M cards and they are very inconsistent. High ASIC doesn't guarantee anything in terms of overclock capacity. Driver versions also matter. Use a @j95 mod.
     
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  34. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Building on that, my card, without VRM, gets good clocks but has a 69.6 ASIC (early card)...

    BTW, where is a good place to find the VRM to add to this card? Is a custom firmware needed after adding the VRM?

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    Do you know by accident, if this mod from @j95 would work for 970m's as well? Or is this a specific designed one for the 980m?
     
  36. Mr. Fox

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    Assuming you are talking about the 3 missing MOSFET chips. I got them from Digi-Key. Adding them increases the need for higher voltage.
    It should.
     
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  37. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    You may need to do a little tweaking of the files yourself, but it can work for a 970m

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    That's what I am talking about. Thanks! I would be talking to Prema after the mod to get the voltage limit raised or removed (currently capped at 1.2V)...

    Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
     
  39. Scerate

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    yeah ASIC is nothing sadly noticed it too on my desktop card, and will try the other driver boss.

    Let's mod our 980m and we make a 1070 ourselfs :vbthumbsup:
     
  40. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Have you tried better thermal pads? MOSFET or VRM temps may be part of the problem(You can't see what temp they have). Although the quality of 980m can be discussed.
     
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  41. Ionising_Radiation

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    My W230SS, under Prime95 small FFTs load, thermally throttles like hell.

    It cannot hold the CPU's rated 47 W TDP, and neither can it go up to the rated 3.5 GHz Turbo Boost. Hell, under maximum load it can't even hold the non-boost 2.5 GHz frequency. Under such conditions, the CPU draws 38 W, and runs at 2.3 GHz. This is crappy.

    I don't know what to do.
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    yeah sadly, but thermal pads are so freaking expensive for that little amount you get at least in europe, checked caseking.de and they have some put only some stripes and that for about 22€. What i still don't unterstand tho is what happens on my GPU Hardware wise, +110Mhz is fine so far +120Mhz and blackscreen, with so minor increase in clock rates, are the VRMs really heat up so much more to cause it tripping? If it were the core itself which goes unstable i would at least hope to see some sort of DTR.

    Try downloading Throttlestop, which Papusan just posted and HWInfo64. Throttlestop is the best tool available to Control your CPU without BIOS controls and much much better than XTU. Then use HWInfo64, check the Option for "Sensors only" dunno the Name right now and stress test again, there you should see the actual reason why it throttles. If it's e.g. current Limit you can try and use Throttlestop to increase that Limit.
     
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    Thing is, the reason why my CPU throttles is crappy cooling, not current limit or power limit throttling. I can't fix thermal throttling unless I do a hardware modification, which will be quite complicated. But I certainly do intend to get myself a new heatsink and mod it - add a couple of heatpipes to both the CPU and GPU.
     
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    How is the two 1080 temps while real gaming in p870dm3?
    Many people in Korean forum complains alot about gpu temps.
     
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    Been playing gta 5 for a few hours and the most the temps get up to is about 67C
    But can loop heaven benchmark and get to 85C
     
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  48. Scerate

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    So i guess Undervolting didn't do the trick either?

    Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk
     
  49. Ionising_Radiation

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    Nope. Hell, the CPU even manages to throttle at 3 GHz with a -50 mV undervolt. This is clearly a hardware issue now.
     
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    On what? Prime95 small fft? Thats not a realistic load at all imo.
     
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