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    **M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by emike09, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. bushmins

    bushmins Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey.
    I just downloaded these
    Realtek

    The middle option - they are dx11 version.

    Also can you take a look at this thread and let me know what you get? You have the same laptop as me (a part from the processor). Also can you let me know what nvidia graphics driver you have?

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/518141-clevo-m570tu-owners-i-ask-your-help.html
     
  2. PredatoR_TR

    PredatoR_TR Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi,

    How is the performance of this audio driver? have you realized any difference?

    I use the latest nvidia driver, no problem for now (I have been using Win7 for 10 days). There is a newer one but beta. I haven't tried that but I will when It will have full release.

    Actually from what I suffer is fan noise. I will kill myself some day because of that noise! Even it has more sound than speakers (for example, I can't hear very well with max sound when I play Assassin's creed II)

    I am very hoping that someone will create a software or something with bios that we can control fan or at least we can continuously keep it work at 25%-30%. Or I want to ask you people. Is it possible to change gtx280m fan with more silent one? Is there any suitable fan for that?
     
  3. bushmins

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    I think any fan will be noisy since its so small and has to work so hard.
    The realtek drivers have some equalizer options, you might get a bit more out of it. Personally i use head phones, it blocks out the sound of the fans and sounds great.
    Have you tried a cooling table? I use one and it keeps my temps down slightly, probably a few degres. I very rarly hear my fan go up to max (i.e. the sound it makes when you press fn 1 - which is 100%)

    Ive just had to send mine back for investigation due to the problems im having in the thread i asked you to have a look at. Would really apreicate it if you could try the 59hz thing, should only take a few seconds. Any problems let me know.
     
  4. PredatoR_TR

    PredatoR_TR Notebook Evangelist

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    cooling table doesn't help when I play a game =) I know that fn 1 is 100% capacity for fans, when I play game, they work at 80%-90% I think and even it disturbs me. If I could sell my computer, I would like to buy w870cu, but unfortunately no one wants to buy. dead investment.

    I have just looked your topic, and I have realized that my computer is running at 59hz. No problem at all.
     
  5. LAZAS

    LAZAS Notebook Guru

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    Did anyone try running this machine with 8 GB DDR3 RAM setup? Does it require some sort of custom BIOS to recognise those 4 GB RAM's or is "Plug'nPlay"?
     
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    Hi there,

    Any owners looking to sell their laptop?

    Thank you
     
  7. anmatheextreme

    anmatheextreme Notebook Consultant

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    Hi there,
    Just bought the game Medal of Honor and, using the task manager saw that my cpu (see sig) is used 100%, causing some stuttering throughout the game. Maybe time to change cpu?
     
  8. kaaos

    kaaos Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone help me. I have a m570ru and its not recognizing my new quadro 2700 card, it had a 8800 gtx before. blank screen with both. if i update my bios would it work with the new card?
     
  9. anmatheextreme

    anmatheextreme Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think there is such a possibility. A GPU can run on any system, if the motherboard and bios support it. In your case, Clevo doen't mention anything about the quattro model, which means that you are not lucky enough.
     
  10. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    So you're thinking your 8800m is dead?
    HEY, I'm also in minnesota. If you want to meet up I'd be willing to help you with this.

    I have several 3700m cards we try to help diagnose your problem. And I'm actually getting a 2700m soon.

    Wrong. 3700m is supported by m570ru, 2700m probably should be. BIOS updates are needed for m860tu models with the newer 260m and 280m cards, so it could be the same.
     
  11. LordSmack

    LordSmack Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been running 8 gigs with no problems on the old BIOS versions.

    BTW anyone had a link to the latest BIOS for the m570tu?
     
  12. anmatheextreme

    anmatheextreme Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry, but I think that the m570ru doesn't support the 2700 quattro gpu. Anyone else that can ensure that 2700 quattro model gpu runs on m570ru?

    @lordsmack
    You can check out the clevo bios thread by Blacky:
    forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/416916-clevo-bios-thread.html
     
  13. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    You're wrong. 3700m and 2700m are supported. http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/533109-clevo-m57ru-u-issue-fx2700m.html
    as you can see it was recognized by his BIOS.

    Unless there is a big difference in the m570ru and m570ru-u which i dont know about.
     
  14. anmatheextreme

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    OK, then the best bet is to update the BIOS. Kaaos try the Clevo bios thread to find the latest...
     
  15. sotoa

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    This is a stupid question, but can I take this laptop to a European country like Greece and not have a problem with the power? I would prob need an adapter for the plug, but would it handle 240v? Or would I need a European power brick?
    Pertains to any laptop.
     
  16. LAZAS

    LAZAS Notebook Guru

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    I bought my M570RU in US and the charger works flawlessly in Europe. On the backside it is clearly written that it can handle 100-240 V 50-60 Hz 2.0A AC.
     
  17. Blacky

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    Yes you can. :)
    You just need a European plug/ cord. You will be able to find it in any electronics shop in Europe.
     
  18. Norup58

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    Have a M571TU with GTX9800M.
    Run into following problem yesterday. Shortly after turning on the laptop various lines on screen will start to flicker left to right. Over a few minutes this will spread to the whole screen leaving it in various shades of black, grey, white. When the whole screen is flickering it looks as black/white horizontal lines are running down the screen on a continuous loop.
    This happens regardless of the laptop starts up in normal Win7 mode, safemode or Bios/setup mode.
    Is my GPU done and gone?
     
  19. Blacky

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    Looks like the video memory is almost dead.

    You may still use your laptop for a few days but no gaming or it will permanently fubar.

    I can't say for certain it's the video card, but you have 3 possible scenarios: motherboard, video card, LCD screen. The LCD screen is the easiest to eliminate, just try your laptop on an external screen. If it does the same then it's the motherboard or the video card. In which case your only option is a new video card.

    Bare in mind that you can also use a 260M or a 280M now, or even a cheaper 9600M will work.

    You may also try to bake your video card, that might work.
     
  20. Norup58

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    OK many thanks for your suggestions.
    You mentioned if it also happens on an external monitor it is either the motherboard or the GPU. Is there any way to determine which one it could be? I mean, wouldnt want to spend money on a 260 or 280 to find it its the motherboard.
     
  21. Blacky

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    Unfortunately no, unless you take your laptop to a repair shop. However, buying a new video card is not that bad, they can be easily sold back. And I doubt it's the motherboard.
     
  22. LordSmack

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    Tried. Links were bad for the BIOS. I got the EC but no the BIOS. does anyone have the BIOS?
     
  23. Blacky

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    Which BIOS ? 0.19 ? All links should be working fine.

    EDIt: apparently the link for the 0.19 BIOS was dead. I've updated the Clevo BIOS thread with a new link.
     
  24. LordSmack

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    Thanks a bunch! Now a qucik question. I run the EC then the BIOS Correct?
    What is the ph1697.exe file for?
     
  25. theriko

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    Yes, run the ec then the bios, the ph1697.exe is the flashing tool, it is referenced from the other files, just leave it in the same directory and you'll be fine.
     
  26. rarden30mm

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    hi guys ever since my wife has had this laptop we could never conect the laptop to our tv via hdmi,is this a driver issue,i have used many drivers and many cables.
    spec wise t6600
    8800m gtx 512
    2gb ddr3
    160gb hdd
    win 7 32 bit
    thax and merry xmass
     
  27. Blacky

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    it might be a vBIOS issue, or simple BIOS issue. Try updating your BIOS, if that doesn't work, then the only other option is a different vBIOS...
     
  28. sotoa

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    That reminds me. This weekend was the first time I've ever hooked up my HDMI to a TV and I'm happy to say, it worked great. Just have to switch the audio on to the digital output.
     
  29. worseelite

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    I had just the same problem the HDMI isnt supported in the 8800m gtx Vbios. I had to flash my Vbios to 9800M GT and it works now.

    Links to earlier threads.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/541456-hdmi-no-signal-hdtv.html

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/543866-vbios-update-8800m-gtx-9800m-gt.html

    Guide on how to flash Vbios.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/460368-9800m-gt-bios-8800m-gtx-card.html

    When you come to this step in the guide. Instead of just typing nvflash NEWBIOS.rom you have to type nvflash -4 -5 -6 NEWBIOS.rom.

    10) After the restart, just wait until you are at the DOS command prompt. Type "nvflash NEWBIOS.rom" and enter to begin flashing. Type "y" to confirm it.


    Your doing this on your own risk it worked for me just fine.

    Attached Vbios for 9800M GT that works for M570RU/TU.
     

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  30. anmatheextreme

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    This happens because possibly you have vey old drivers. Dont see anything else to be the issue. But my question is, is the 8800m working fine with 9800m bios after stress tests with FurMark or ATITool on high temps?

    And something else to all of you. I have the P8600 2.4GHz processor, but on any online game (crysis, cod Black Ops, NFS Shift) and also GTA EFLC single, the computer sutters a lot and in the task manager the cpu usage is 99-100%. I unfortunately have one of those first model, where they don't get any quad processor. Should I buy a new core 2 extreme or just wait a little bit and then buy a new laptop (dont have enough money right now)?
     
  31. theriko

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    The HDMI is a vbios problem: the 8800M GTX came out before HDMI and so doesn't support it, the card was then rebranded as the 9800M GT with a new vbios and in a new chassis with HDMI (M570TU).

    To reiterate - on a hardware level the 8800M GTX is the 9800M GT, so the vbios should be 100% stable (as demonstrated by several people).

    The drivers have nothing to do with supporting HDMI (in this case), but I would always recommend updating your drivers.
     
  32. anmatheextreme

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    That's what I knew first, but surfing the web, i saw many laptops having 8800M GTX card with HDMI video and sound. Maybe they were later released?
     
  33. pyun

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    Hey fellas,

    I've got a Sager NP5797 (says M571TU on the bottom of my laptop) with a Intel C2D P9500 CPU and a GeForce 9800M GTX. Are there only specific NP5797 models that can upgrade to the Q9200 CPU? Is the 280M a better graphics card than the 9800M GTX? It's been a long time since I've tinkered with my laptop :)
     
  34. anmatheextreme

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    Only first releases can't get a Quad core cpu, like mine. If you bought before 2009, you probably don't have quad core support. GTX 280M is a 10% faster than 9800M GTX, but I think it's not worth the upgrade, as you can OC the 9800M and get reeeaaalllllyyy close to the 280M stock. I used to have a P6000 score on 3DMark Vantage when I only had the 9800M GTX OC'ed to limit (600/1425/880), but now it has started to have driver stopped issues and suttering. It has started to get rusty after a year and a half of overclocking. If you plan to buy a new laptop on a year or so, go with OC'ing.

    EDIT: I achieved at least 3 fps more on FarCry2 and Crysis with GPU overclock. Worth it I think....
     
  35. pyun

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    Is there a way to identify if mine is a 1st release by looking at the hardware or reading off any serial numbers? I purchased my Sager off ebay so I don't know how long or when the seller had it/bought it.

    Sounds like I'll stick with the 9800M GTX GPU until it burns out :p
     
  36. Blacky

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    Ask him when he bought the laptop. The quad-core enabled motherboards started shipping in November 2008.
     
  37. theriko

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    On one of the ram slots (inside the main component b\y) there should be a motherboard revision number - post that here and we should be able to tell you if it supports quads
     
  38. Tirenz

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    Thanks guys, I got word last night from the previous owner that the laptop was purchased in mid to late October 2008... so I'm hoping that it STILL might have made the cut. I will read the thread that Tirenz posted and get the MoBo revision number later today.

    Thanks again everyone. Stay posted!
     
  40. anmatheextreme

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    I bought mine on Octomber 2008, bad luck not to wait for the quads :(
     
  41. Xoured

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    Whenever I plug in my laptop the temperature goes from a steady 50 cesius gaming to 100+. What is causing this and how could it be fixed. Any ideas? Maybe a BIOS update or something?
     
  42. Blacky

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    When you are unplugged the GPU is only used at half it's potential so that's why it is so low.

    100+ is waaaay to hot! You need to clean the vents and if that doesn't help. Reapply the thermal paste.
     
  43. Xoured

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    Yea I figured out that I have a bad charger and it is causing this issue. The charger is making all sorts of horrible noises and instantly gets searing hot after 3 mins of plugging it in. Unplugged I don't crash, and all temps stay at a nice 50-60.
     
  44. anmatheextreme

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    Even if you have a bad charger, I don't think it can cause the gpu to reach so high temps.
    According to an experiment I did some months ago, when the thermal paste isn't spread correctly, it cause fast jump on temps and it also causes the temps to drop to low 60c from 90c in some seconds. Also you may have a fan issue. Many of us, including me blame the paste on the gpu, when the real problem ie the fan. That's my opinion...
     
  45. Xoured

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    If it was a fan issue, it would be overheating when charging or on battery.
     
  46. anmatheextreme

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    This is not 100% sure, because when on battery, the Gpu is used to only 50% so that the battery can handle the power the computer needs. Am writing about the fan because I once had an overheating gpu, changed 3 times, still the same. Once the Barebone and MOBO was changed, overheating was gone forever. Blacky knows all the story...
     
  47. jupapri

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    and i also suffered overheating problems with my sager. thank god i sold it and bought a kicka** desktop lol
     
  48. anmatheextreme

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    Jupapri, did you sell it? Did you still have some overheating?
     
  49. emish89

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    hi guys!
    I have a problem.
    I tryed to update the bios of my m570etu but I failed and now it is always with black screen.
    I don't know what I can do to repair it.
    some ideas?
    thanks a lot,
    bye from italy :)
     
  50. emish89

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    up ten char
     
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