**M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

well my M570TU just came in

$225 shipped for it

x9100, 280M, 4gigs, 1920x1200 screen, 320gig HD

I'd say I got a really good deal lol

 

The sticker on the first RAM slot states the it is the V3.0B revision motherboard.

Is there a way to find out what the revision is without popping the hood, cause might be looking for some new m570ETU bargains online that do support Quad Cores...

 

For one reason or another most of the Audio Out jacks are maulfunctioning... So I would check that...

 

Anyone knows where I could find a M570ETU motherboard new, used, crashed or refurbishes at cheap prices ??

Thank you

 

Clevo Laptop Parts :: M57xTU :: Motherboard for M57xTU - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

Clevo Germany

Goldenstar Computers Ltd

But nowhere near their prices are affordable...

P.S.
Could anyone quickly reply, which M570TU MB revisions suport Quad Cores?

 

Have you already asked to clevo?
Wich was the price answered?

 

When I emailed Clelvo Germany in 2010 Junr for M570RU convertion to M570TU I got this answer:

"M570TU with WUXGA Display costs 650Euro. For upgrade your M570RU we can get back rest of your M570RU for 280Euro (M570RU without CPU,RAM,HDD,GPU).

It is to say, you just need to pay 370Euro/Net (if you are just private customer, you have to pay 19% VAT). Warranty 2 years (battery 6 months)."

I did not really like the idea of sending my laptop to them as well... it does not seem that secure as I have never done any bussnes with them and etc. So bought a used M570TU from the states, but did not check if is supports Quad Cores and I am a bit stuck... Hopefully going to find some M570ETU bargain at some point...

 

Please some advice on the following:
The GPU in my M570TU died, so I replaced it with a Nvidia GTX 8700M from an old M570RU.
I installed the latest Nvidia driver by chaning the INF file such that the installer doesn't complain to download it from Clevo.

At first it seemed to run ok... but I have some auto-refresh issues.

I use it to develop software in Eclipse, a Java app. When I switch to Chrome for example or minimize Eclipse and come back to Eclipse, some parts of the screen don't get auto-refreshed and show black or grey (see attachment)
Other app's don't seem to give this auto-refresh problems as far as I can tell now.

Clevo mailed my that the 8700M isn't supported in the M570TU. Not a surprising answer, but I am looking for the best way how to solve this.
Any idea's ?
BTW: I have the latest bios installed (19), motherboard: V3.2B-1, 8GB RAM and Quad core C2Q SP9400.

- Ed

 

guys, does anybody knows if these 4870M would work with a M570tu ?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/com...ideo-cards-mxm-3-0-6990s-mxm-2-1-4870s-2.html

Would the card case be the same as the one used on the 280M gtx?

I wouldn't mind having one of those to play around

 

They should work.

At that price I would get one myself, just that the shipping is killing me.

In my view, grab one ASAP, and if it works, I might get one myself.

Performance wise, the 4870 should be on par with the 280M.

 

i will buy one I will let you guys know how it sorts out.

 

Thanx! Keep me posted.

The 4870M is about 2-5% faster than the 280M although it's true that the 4870M doesn't have PhysX.

 

I checked that thread. It is a 4850M MXM 2.1 actually.

 

Then it is of no interest to us but maybe they really are the real deal.

 

i asked table to confirm what type of card they are... lets hope for the best!

 

Type is definitely right, MXM 2.1 Type III. It can be installed in your M570ETU.

But I'm not sure whether you can get that 4850m post on the built-in screen which is the problem you need to concern.

Niffcreature has tested 2 of 3 MXM 2.1 4800M on M570TU.

MSI 4850M, no display on built-in screen, can work with an external monitor.
Asus 4870M, works.

You may complete the 3rd test - AW 4850M on M570TU.

 

I'm sad lol... i wanted the 4870 to be an upgrade to my 280GTX ( in terms of heat release and little extra speed) but then, it seems those cards are 4850 therefore i won't be interested

There was a "black" ASUS 4870 MXM 2.1 for sale but it's a gonner...
well, better luck next time

By the way, can you guys recommend a good mate screen with 1920x1200 (mine is glossy and i am fedd up )?

 

All I can recommend you is the screen I am currently using. It's semi-glossy but very well made. I've used it outside a few times and it's very good.

Samsung LTN170CT05 .

 

Pretty sure my GFX card is fried..boots to white screen upon pressing the power button with beeps every few seconds. Looking to purchase a new GFX any suggestions besides ebay to find one?

ASUS G50V G50 VIDEO CARD 9800M GT NSZVG1000-A03 512MB would that work in my laptop?

Thanks

 

I got a 5796 in July 08, then in Oct 2011 the screen died, just a few months after my EXTENDED warranty (yes, I paid close to $400 for an extra few years) expired! I was playing a game, there some artifacts, and then it went black. No response at all, external monitor doesn't work either.

I know it still boots up fine because I can log in and activate the spoken feature of windows to know that it is OK in that respect, just no screen. And no video card fans either.

I called Sager today, $45 for an evaluation, the guy estimates $500 if the video card is bad, $400 if the MB is bad, and $80 labor, and then also shipping back to my location. I was set to send it out today, but then realized that for that money what's the point?

Do any of you guys know of a way to diagnose without sending to Sager? And is it better to try and find a 280m and switch it in? My current card is an 9800m GTX w/ 512 ram. I loved the machine for 3 years and am now on a Macbook Air (complete opposite!) but don't know if sinking more money into it is the answer since I probably won't be using a gaming laptop ever again. If I did fix it I wouldn't be lugging it around anymore since I have my MBA, I would just leave it some place to play games really.

What do people typically get if they want to scrap it?

 

If the video card is bad, I wonder if Sager can switch it to a 280m? If so, how much? Might be nice to know if that is an option before sending your system.

 

If so is it worth it to spend 500-800 to fix a laptop that is almost 4 years old?

 

It depends on what it's worth to you. You can buy a brand new W150 laptop with the 555m (which is only ~10% slower than the 280m) for $900, give or take. For just over $1000 you can get the P151HM1 with a 560m which will be faster than the old 280m by 60%.

 

Exactly, I think I'd be better off to scrap it, makes no sense to sink more money into something like that.

 

Why don't you spend 80$ on a FX2700M from Niffcreature and have yourself a nice working laptop? Cheap fix, easy install, zero problems...

That would give you time to save some money to buy a better one in a near future. At least you dont end up with a brick


Just my 2 cents


Luis

 

I couldn't just throw away my laptop just like that. I got myself too attached to it to do that. Even if it cost a few hundred bucks, I would still try to get it to work properly.

 

Same feelings here and you don't even need to spend a few hundred buck on it... as i mentioned, a FX2700 fits well, without hassle and prolongs the life of the laptop for some more years

If the problem was the motherboard... that's a different situation for me but i got the 2+1 extended warranty voucher when i bought it so i'm safe

 

Hello,
Yet another demanding noob on your forum.
I'm fixing an old laptop for my boss and it turns out its a rebranded
Sagan/Clevo 570u laptop. (Evesham Computers in the UK now bust)

Great machine bearing in mind how old it is.

The main problem is the track pad. Its going loopy. I have looked in a lot of places for a replacement and I can't find one.
I've repaired loopy trackpads before in toshiba latops and it was quite scary how much I had to dismantle the laptop to get at it but I managed it.

I got the service manual (that was an effort) to find how to replace the trackpad and its not listed!!!!
I also see the CPU is upgradable!. Can I just drop the best CPU the socket can handle in?

So the questions are I guess,
where can I get a trackpad from?
is it built into the chassis!?!?!?
Is it risky upgrading the CPU? (baring in mind I'm ok with computer hardware repairs in general)


Your help will be greatly appreciated.

peas

 

Replacing a touchpad is rarely easy; not to mention, I doubt you can find one on a 5 -6 year old machine.

Upgrading a CPU is straight forward enough, but buying an upgrade of a processor that old might set you back $300. Tell your boss it might be time for a new laptop. Not to mention a new OS.

 

thanks for the reply.

He's got windows 7 running on there, it has 4GB ram.
Its running a t2400 and ATi x1600 gfx.

so i guess i could put a socket M T7600 in there (voltage and FSB match) as they're on ebay for £50'ish

But this track pad thing is a nightmare. I've found second hand chassis but the amount of work - its like a whole body transplant.

one more thing from this demanding n00b.

THe clock kept resetting(CMOS battery) and i sorted a new battery for him. It turns out it never kept time again. I took the new battery to a shop to make sure it had power at the right voltage etc. IT did.

Is there a known thing with the CMOS battery connector?

 

Thanks Luisqcosta and Blacky for the suggestions, it's tempting and I hate to brick it... but I just looked at some suggestions be Malibal#2 - it just makes no sense to invest more time and money into an almost 4 year old laptop when by just adding a few hundred I can get a new one that is better. The P151HM1 is just so tempting for under $1000. I was leaning towards an ultrabook, but for about the same price you get a full 15" HD matte screen.... plus a 560m.... just double the weight! I'm also getting a bit old to have gaming decide my computer buying, I may just get some $300 cheapo at Best Buy.

 

We're here to help

In my opinion, just not to brick it, and have a fully functional laptop which can still play some games and serve you for a few more years, you can't go wrong with a 80$ fx2700, thats peanuts . For sure it will outperform any 300$ cheap laptop at best buy

Of course, if you add 80 buck to the p151hm1 you'll get two nice laptops

Pretty straightforward to me

 

I'm also not 100% sure it is the vid card, do you know if there is a way to check without sending it to Sager and paying the shipping and diagnostic charge (about $80 plus shipping)? I hate to brick it.

 

It sure looks like a vcard malfunction it normally starts with artifacts and then... puff... there she goes
To be honest, it would be much cheaper to fix if it was a bad ram stick or something similar
I'm pretty sure you can buy a card with the condition that if it still does not work you can give it back and have a refund. People are sensitive to this "bringing back" thing

best of luck and keep us posted.

 

Yeah, makes sense. I'll try it, it really makes no sense to brick it. I already ordered this

Newegg.com - SONY VAIO SE Series VPCSE13FX/B Notebook Intel Core i5 2430M(2.40GHz) 15.5" 4GB Memory DDR3 1333 640GB HDD 5400rpm DVD±R/RW AMD Radeon HD 6470M

As I need something very portable but also with high resolution, this was the best fit (1920x1080 on a 15" laptop that weighs only 4.1 lb, pretty remarkable), I don't need any other bells and whistles. For that price I also considered another Sager or gaming computer, but at 2 hours battery and 7+ pounds of computer, I decided against it. I'll either get an Xbox or get a proper gaming desktop, it's just not practical for me to get a gaming laptop, as much as I love them! I was so tempted to add a few hundred for the P150HM with an ATI 6990M as it's not that expensive, well under $2000, maybe in a year I'll spring for another gaming rig, these gaming laptops are so tempting.

 

My girlfriend bought precisely that sony its a very nice machine. I just bought a seagate momentus xt because the hd was crappy

We hope to see you back with your clevo

 

Ooh, good to hear. The sony looks great on paper for my needs, I just can't go back to low resolution after having that Sager. I'm on a MBA, but for 13.3" screen the 1400x900 resolution is still great. Can't wait to get back to 1920 though.

If I do get another sager/gaming lappy in the future it will either be a smaller form factor like 15" or a huge huge 12-15 lb behemoth like the new P270WM. Maybe next year.

 

BTW, was it easy to switch in the momentus? DId you see a big increase in performance?

 

It is clearly noticable. Everything flows much better. Things can be even better if you buy a momentus XT (mine is just the 500gb 7200rpm with gforce protection).

 

Hi guys, maybe it sounds weird but it's so nice to meet other people with problems like mine
I have Sager 5796 and after almost exactly 3 years my graphic card have died. Black screen, external monitor didn't work. I decided to take a chance and have had it repaired (reballing). Yesterday it broke down for the third time and I lost my patience. I really love my computer and I don't want to leave it broken but I don't see any options...
Do you have any advice about some cheap graphic card I can buy for replacement? I've only found some GeForce 9300 or other crap like that...

 

You can use a 9600M or any 9000M or 200M series MXM 2.1 card.

 

you also have the quadro series from nvidia. I got a fx3600m for my m570tu two weeks ago and it is perfect.

Another cheap solution is the fx2700m from niffcreature (80 bucks or something like that). It should put the laptop working and still running some games

 

Was anyone able to resolve the manual Bluetooth turning on issue? I was trying to do so with W7 Task Scheduler, but it kinda did not work...

 

I believe there was never a bios workaround for this issue. As i never needed it badly (no bt mouse\keyboard here) i never really spent much time trying to solve the problem. Maybe a simple keystroke macro can solve the issue?

 

Hello everybody!

It seems the M570TU world is having a hard time... After almost 4 years of great service, my dear Clevo fried yesterday... Exactly same symptoms as Madd_Matt: screen froze, I turned off the computer, and nothing is displayed since (no bios, really nothing). I believe the computer is still alive, because fans and hard drive turn and keyboard shortcuts are responding for example.

The graphic card was a 9800mGTX with 1Gb of memory.
I would like to find a cheap replacement, because it tears my heart apart to just throw away my laptop... Luisqcosta, how does the quatro do in game? And where did you find a 80 dollars card?

Mad_matt, did you find a replacement?

Sorry for my english, I'm french and do my best

Thank you all for your time,
H.

 

Hi there

Any owners with GTX 280M looking to sell their laptop?

http://forum.notebookreview.com/wan...5187-wtb-clevo-laptops-gtx-260m-gtx-280m.html

Thank you

 

Hi Hoedus,


With the games i play, Guild Wars, COD MW3, EVE Online, World of Tanks and Team Fortress 2, i found almost no differences from the 280GTX to the Quadro fx3600. The normal laptop temperature also dropped a little bit due to the 280gtx's higher "output".

niffcreature here in the forums was selling a bunch of cards compatible with our laptops. You would need to contact him for further details as i am not involved on any trades.

BTW, i just sent my card (the 280m gtx) to Greece to computer-systems.gr to have it reballed. They have the correct equipment and they do this kind of repairs. Very handy for European owners indeed. The price was dead cheap check their ebay store at Laptop Parts, Data recovery services items in computer-systems gr store on eBay! they have a special ebay price, different from their website (cheaper of course ). dont forget to check their youtube videos at ComputerSystemsGR - YouTube .

I am by no means affiliated to them. I just found their service and after exchanging a few emails, i bought it.

Lets see how it ends up

 

Yutsmail,

how much is it worth for you a M570TU with the following stuf:

qx9300
8gb Corsair CL7
gtx 280m
momentus XT 500GB
blu-ray reader
USB 3.0 x2 express card adaptor (express card adapter with nec chipset)
Glare type 1980x1200
new chassis
battery holds up 76%


I am not particularly interested on selling but for the right money, i can find a smaller replacement for this "little" beast.



Luis

 

I have pretty much the same configuration ... so...

Let's say, a new laptop with the same performance will be around what? 900 USD or about 825 euro (considering VAT), we are most likely talking about something with nvidia GT 640M and Intel Core i5 3320M from the future generation. Since your laptop has been used for 3 and a half years, you should take down 20% of the above price for the first year and than 10% for each subsequent years.

Doing the math means the value of your laptop is 525 USD or 480 euro.

My only problem is that I don't have any solid evidence in terms of price for a new laptop.

 

Blacky, it would mean that if i would like to sell the parts individually, i would get more €uros back

For example, cpu, gpu, ram, bluray and momentus xt should put it really next to the 480€. What about the rest?