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Reapply the generic thermal paste. Spread it evenly over each die. Make sure that you don't use too much because if any paste squeezes out into the area between the two dies, your load temps will rise noticably.

 

Hmm ok I will def re-apply it when I have time. Also the GTX 280m after about an hour of crysis, recorded a max temp of 95 Celsius, however that was already installed when I got the system and I didn't mess with it. The air temp in the room is about 80 f, 27 c... Flat surface, no cooler, no o.c., is something wrong?

 

Yes, it is better to just put a drop about the size of a piece of short white rice, or a small BB...then just as you say it will spread itself. By using the razor to spread it you may leave some gaps.

However 70-75 during gaming are ok temperatures.

 

What about the GPU? It gets all the way up to 93 after a good hour of crysis warhead. I figure the GPUs harder to cool but its no even overclocked.

 

93 is ok, but it shouldn't get much higher than about 95-97, although it can go slightly over 100.

 

Ok thanks for the help, I'm going to keep monitoring the cpu and if it ever gets above about 80 again I'll re-apply the thermal paste. I guess I just won't worry about the gpu, I'll just never over clock it.

 

Lets keep this thread alive guys then we wont have too many questions apart from this thread keeping it clean.

Anyways I have been playing around with my 822 as of late and I am a little disappointed in its performance out of game, primarily the 500gb 5400rpm HDD.

 

What really is causing the heat issue in the right hand palm rest of this laptop? That is only the problem I'm experiencing, really. It annoys me to touch the palm rest because it's too hot IMHO.

 

I think it might be the Wifi card... which some people reported.

you can test this by either disabling the wifi card (in Device Manager) or removing it physically (with the notebook off of course)

 

I can back you up with this, as I left my laptop on overnight to download programs from BBC iPlayer (A video distribution service by the BBC), and when I got up in the morning, the right palmrest was significantly warmer.

BTW, the hard drive temperature when I got up was 43C, so I'm sure it wasn't that.

 

I'm a bit new to these forums, but I just placed an order for my Sager np8662 (clevo m860etu). My first choice, albeit a naive and misinformed choice, was the AW m15x...but if you take a look at the owner's forum here http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=228659&page=249 , you'll see my frustrations and reasons for jumping to another OEM.

I placed my order through Xoticpc.com, and their CS/sales reps were very helpful and informative.
Specs below...I hope this purchase wont' be nearly as frustrating...I would have opted for the Zero Dead Pixel warranty, but I'm going to take my chances...due to my budget constraints...

1x Sager NP8662 (Built on Clevo M860TU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- Display: 15.4" WSXGA+ "Glare Type" Super Glossy 1680x1050
- Arctic Silver: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: ~Intel® T9600 45nm "Montevina" Core 2 Duo 2.8ghz
- Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 260M 1,024MB
- External Graphics Card: No External Graphics Card
- External Monitor Video Adapter: No Video Adapter
- Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Chan
- Intel® Robson Turbo Memory: None Standard--
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Optical Drive: ~Combo 8x8x6x4x Dual Layer DVD +
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 320GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 3
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Wireless Network: Built-in Intel® PRO/Wireless 530
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audi
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Incl
- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapter: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler
- Operating System: ~Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit I
- Microsoft Office Software (Media: No Office Software
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warra
Order Total: $1,846.00

One day has passed and I'm on phase 2...woohoo...CS rep said everything in my order is in-stock, so hopefully I'll get this in time for my business trip July 14th.

One thing that really surprised me about making the switch was the price point. Nearly everything was an upgrade from my original m15x build, with the exception of the HDD and OS...and I STILL came out $250 bucks less...AMAZING! Why would anyone stick with anything else??

 

The new asus models have a lot of people very excited as well.
Having owned an asus and now owning a sager, they are worlds apart...
The build quality, look and feel of this machine is more than a total dream... a slightly moist dream...
Sometimes I wish I payed out a wee bit more for more power but in truth, I am more than happy with with my rig... its not the most powerful, in games i like to have power but honestly cant be bothered about 1 or 2 fps...
I like to carry around my computer, so the SLI tops were always out of the question even though i get jealous of the muscles they will get carrying them around. This is my perfect dream machine and totally recommend it to anyone...

 

I agree ive owned dell, asus and now the sager and the sager definately is IMO the best built machine followed by the dell and then the asus...i like its simplistic nature, as ive stated before the only thing i would have liked to have seen different would have been a backlit keyboard....
@ Bensmack welcome to the forums, and congratulations on your new machine, its a beast and i hope you have better luck than with the M15x......enjoy it when it arrives....

 

Yes the are comparable spec wise sort of............
While ASUS laptops are mostly great the G51 ( I'm guessing you are referring to the G51 since it's the only comparable model.....anyways) uses a downclocked GPU compared to the CLEVO and build quality Yes is worlds apart
The new ASUS G51 is nice and has some cool features ( backlit keyboard and factory OC option) but the WHITE lid Is totally not for me...bleh
The M860TU looks much nicer and people will be able to show it in public without
drawing any attention .
Gonna order me one really soon!
With a QUAD of course

 

The G51 and to some extent the m15x kinda remind me of the tackie looking street-racing cars. Sure they have the hardware to make your average car owner envious but the plastic-flashiness of it all borders on causing nausea.

 

Ordered my Sager NP8662 last week
at the moment its on route the the skinning facility

The wait is agonizing..

I've heard amazing things, and this will be my first laptop. =]

 

Be sure to get plenty of sleep the night before UPS delivers it, chenDawg. I can guarantee you that you won't be getting any sleep that night.

 

Almost been a year, still love my 8660!

Going to have a T shirt printed with

I <3 8660

 

I second this

 

:O just got the email earlier today my 8662 has left from Xotic. ETA? 6/13. It feels sooooo far away...

 

I sure hope you mean 7/13...

 

Gack indeed summer vacation has left me with a bad sense of date and time.

Wow it really is July already.

 

I got my M860ETU back from Eurocom, installed he GTX 280M, installed the QX9300; and then I realized Eurocom didn't send my PSU back .

So now I'm using my G1S's 90W PSU.

Needless to say, benchmarks are on hold.

 

/ETU with the 260M won't need those crazy underside cover mods right?

 

^^From what I've heard, the 260M runs fine in the M860ETU; no mods are needed.

 

You have to let us know how this turns out!
Borrow a powerbrick from someone!

 

I'm betting as soon as that GPU goes into overdrive the power will black out.

Nice to see it up and running. So resellers are willing to do the 280M mod for you? My money would have been against it happening.

 

I started the ATITool "fuzzy box", and watched the laptop switch to and from battery power.


Eurocom upgraded the motherboard from the M860TU one to the M860ETU. I installed the 280M and the QX9300 myself.

 

Top stuff. How did the 'surgery' go in your experience?

 

Installing the QX9300 was uneventful, however, removing the backplate from my 9800M GTS was just as enjoyable as I had heard it would be. After that, I simply adjusted the thermal pads, and applied some Arctic cooling MX-2.

 

That doesn't sound too good. The poor M860TU can't feed the power hungry QX9300 and GTX 280M, haha.

 

It's probably because I'm using the 90W PSU, although it may be a preview of what I'll see with the normal 120W one.

 

Ah, I see. I didn't read the posts you made above. Godspeed with getting your 120W power supply back.

 

Yeah hopefully the beast can go back to his regular servings rather quickly after being on such a light-weight diet.

Be sure to pass-on/post some number-crunching statistics when it is.

 

Instead of waiting, I'm getting tempted to order a 130W power adapter from ebay.

 

For the people that sent their 860TU's back for a new mobo.

Did your reseller replace the mobo with a new gen one free of charge? if not how much extra did it cost?

I'm thinking about turning mine into a ETU version so I can use a Quad.

 

Anybody have a M860ETU with a P9700 and know if it can be overclocked?

 

Hi

I need some help with my M860ETU (Sager 8662) purchase. What company is the best to buy from in Europe, to get the best setup for the money?

Allso look at my thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5063487#post5063487

Thanks for the help!

 

Hi Eul
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highly recommended by me and many on here.

 

Zachari, no processor can be overclocked in the m860, except with setfsb you can get around 200mhz with the correct pll, but it is a little buggy, atleast for me. Remember this overclocks the entire laptop.

 

That is most unfortunate. In that case; do you think that 2.8GHz is enough to run high end games on high settings without any lag/choppiness?

 

2.8GHz is plenty of power to run high end games. The only games that would question the P9700's power is GTA IV, Supreme Commander, and Left 4 Dead.

 

My QX9300 is currently overclocked to 2.73GHz, it scored 10,327 in Cinebench R10, with a max temp of 74 degrees.

 

Ok, good to know, when you say that those games question it, do you just mean at the highest setting, or at normal settings. I'm actually interested in all three of those games

Since you're cpu is o'ced by 200MHz does that mean you o'ced the fsb like Eivid said? And I'd think if you could o'c the quad extreme in this laptop it would be safe to o'c a duo. Is that assumption correct? How much heat/power consumption do I have to worry about by doing so?

 

I was able to overclock my P9500 by the same amount, if it's a non-extreme dual core, temperatures should be perfectly fine with the overclock. You'll also be well within the maximum power consumption.

 

Left 4 Dead? You must be kidding. I play that thing with a Pentium 4 3.0ghz processor. You DEFINITELY do not need a high-end processor to max that game out, especially not compared to RTS games and GTA4.

 

Those temps look good 5482741. Are you undervolting or using a cooler?

 

Neither, just using it on a flat surface.

 

what's the ambient temperature?

 

80°F or 27°C.