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    **OFFICIAL M860TU/ETU Owners Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by steveninspokane, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. theriko

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    Try uninstalling, rebooting and then reinstalling it.
     
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    So i think im finally going to have the m260 in my m860tu original revision, any info i should know?....also i've had some issues with the machine, in some occasions it suffered some constant hanging...it was identified by the sound and mouse stuttering too......but for a while with xp this didnt happened, yesterday happened with windows7, so i upgraded the bios to the 15 version with ec to 12. Seems to be fine now, but usb thing with my external keyboard still happens....
     
  5. theriko

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    You will need BIOS 16 for the GTX260M to work properly.

    Find it here
     
  6. Eivind

    Eivind Notebook Evangelist

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    I thought all you needed was bios 14?
     
  7. Bluemercury

    Bluemercury Notebook Evangelist

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    Well now the main store which is in another city wants my laptop for a week to test if the m260 doesnt overheat in my original m860tu.....while they could just mount it here in the store in my city....i thought that there wasnt any heat issues with the m60tu.
     
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    I've even heard that the GTX 260M runs cooler than the 9800M GT.
     
  9. theriko

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    On further inspection, the .16 BIOS is for the GT 130M, the GTX 260/280M should work fine with .14
     
  10. Illyria_xl

    Illyria_xl Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just bought a Pro-star M860ETU...super excited. Anyone ordered their's from Pro-star? I shouldn't be concerned right?
     
  11. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    ProStar is a good company. You'll be very satisfied with their service.
     
  12. Illyria_xl

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    I've just read some bad Pro-star reviews that's why I am a little worried...should I pay more for a Sager or Clevo?
     
  13. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Where did you read these reviews?
     
  14. Illyria_xl

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    Wow, those reviews are over four years old, haha. ProStar has turned around for better recently. But I understand your point. You can try buying from any of the big three: XoticPC, PowerNotebooks, or PCTorque. All of them are resellers that dropship your notebook from Sager to your front door.

    You can also try RJTech. I have bought three Clevo's and many parts from them over the past six years and they have never failed to satisfy me.
     
  16. Illyria_xl

    Illyria_xl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, I was thinking about XoticPC and RJTech, but they are more expensive and I can't prepaid the tax with them (since I live in Canada and will not be able to receive the package myself)... also Pro-star offer shipping free both way for repair while the others don't...I have a headache.
     
  17. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Oh, okay. It doesn't hurt to go with ProStar. They aren't going to bug out on you like Eurocom or Sager.
     
  18. Illyria_xl

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    I guess I'll be crossing my fingers hoping for the best that I don't get a defective system lol...although now the Asus G51vx-A1 is looking more appealing hehe (being $200 less as well).
     
  19. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    The G51 is a very budget friendly gaming system, but I would suggest avoiding it, Illyria_xl. Go over to the Asus forum and see all the users that are complaining of overheating GPU's with temperatures in the high 80's and 90's. Atleast with the M860TU, you have some leeway to overclock the GPU, while on the G51 you need to keep the stock clocks, which are lower than the M860TU's stock clocks, if you want to stay out of the red zone.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5195573&postcount=5
     
  20. Illyria_xl

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    Yeah, I know about the overheating problem...but I also read that Asus didn't think it was a big deal? (I guess they would say that)...did not know about clocking though...

    I wouldn't be able to relax till I get my system which is in about 2 weeks - the wait is killing me...
     
  21. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Just take a deep breath and relax. There's nothing you can do right now except play the waiting game. Be happy about your purchase. The M860TU is quite an amazing system. If you need a veteran ProStar customer to hold your hand, you can PM Kevin_Jack2.0.
     
  22. Illyria_xl

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    Thanks Soviet, I'll try not to be too paranoid..but it's going to be hard :)
     
  23. Soviet Sunrise

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    I hear you. Waiting for a notebook is always a nerve wrecker for many of us, especially when it's our first time buying from a small company.
     
  24. blaqprophet

    blaqprophet Notebook Guru

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    I have an question what is anybodies exact setting for l4d cause I'm having performance compared to all the people claiming they play it max on 1600x1050
     
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    I just did 2 simple cooling mods on my M860ETU, I applied a thin aluminium frame around the die to allow it to reach the heatsink, and I added a small fin heatsink to the cpu heatsink.

    My idles have not changed much, but my maximum temps have dropped by 10 degrees. :D

    I'll upload a pic, that properly illustrates the 280M mod.
     

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  26. kevindd992002

    kevindd992002 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I want an M860ETU :(

    I have a M860TU which I got from the dreaded PCMW virus and I want to sell it but it seems that selling it would be a hard time.
     
  27. Tarentum

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    What's wrong with your notebook? I think this is somewhat of a silly upgrade :)
     
  28. MarcG

    MarcG Notebook Enthusiast

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    How long did it take you guys to receive your Sager?

    Also soviet, what anime is your avatar from. :p
     
  29. Tarentum

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    Um... Well, I ordered during the release rush and it took me about 28 days to get it from ordering. They were backordered then, so this isn't the best example ;)
     
  30. kevindd992002

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    Well, first off I got a 1920x1200 screen and I hate it, I should've got the 1680x1050. Upgrading to the GTX260M is even better. And I had very bad memories of this laptop with PCMW. I want to have it from XoticPC.
     
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    I don't know if anyone else gave it a go...
    I was just playing around with the Hotkey programs from different laptops. I'm now using (succesfully, it seems) hotkey drivers from the Clevo M980NU (version 2.0527). Appart from the graphical improvements, there does not seem to be any difference!

    In any case, it looks better, so M860TU owners might want to give it a go.
     
  33. Anarch

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    Hello,
    Could anyone advise me some good laptop cooling pads i can use with M860TU - quite important it would have to be suitable for using it on my laps - so the best if the air intake would be on the sides or rear, not the bottom ) I often use the laptop in bed etc.
    I cannot find a right one on my own,

    I have bought recently M860TU from a German reseller - notebookguru,
    I have some problems with the heat in the right palm rest area...
    downloaded intel chipset and matrix drivers but it doesnt seem to improve the situation a lot...any suggestions ?

    Thanks,
    Thomas
     
  34. Soviet Sunrise

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    You can always swap out the screen and the GPU if you want. It will be cheaper than selling your notebook, which I'm sure has lost a lot of it's value, and buying a new M860TU.
     
  35. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Where would I be able to grab a new back plate and bluetooth in europe (ship to Germany), I would rather avoid emailing a dozen shops :p
     
  36. kaltmond

    kaltmond Clepple

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    Ask Schenker or Notebookguru, maybe NEXOC also.
     
  37. Anarch

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    Soviet Sunrise, maybe you could give me some advice on the cooler for using on my laps for M860TU ?
    THanks,
    Thomas
     
  38. Soviet Sunrise

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    I'm surprised you missed X2P's notebook cooler buying guide in his sig. But I'll help you out. Are you looking for something portable that you can partner with your M860TU wherever you go?
     
  39. X2P

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    Unfortunately those types of coolers have been very minimal. The majority generally put something like a book underneath the cooler to use it on soft surfaces.

    The closest one to somtehing you are describing is the Coolermaster X2 which intakes air from the bottom, front and back. You would have to keep it cleaner though (dust).

    The X2 also works quite well with the 8662, my review (use search top right corner) uses the 8662 and it actually worked wonders if you ignore build and noise
     
  40. Anarch

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    Thanks for help,
    Ive read the guide now, but still dont know which one to choose,
    I wouldnt travel with it or anything it would be simply lying under my bed, or i would take it to other soom so doesnt have to be extra light or anything, it has to be quite comfy and work on my laps, and cool the notebook well.
    X2P - the Notepal X2 looks really interesting, I try to find some place where I could purchase it online in Europe ( Poland / Germany or UK ) but no success so far. Any help ?
    The one that is available to buy here is the notepal infinite.
    THanks,
    THomas
     
  41. Prophex

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    Hi,


    I'm planning on buying an M860TU from notebookguru.de, but have 2 more questions concerning what hardware I will be putting in:

    1. I have the option to choose between "15,4 Inch WSXGA+ 1680x1050 Pix NonGlare" & "15,4 Inch WSXGA+ 1680x1050 Pix Glare" ... What's the difference ? And what is pix(el) glare ?
    2. I will be placing a 500gig HD in this bad boy, but I'm not sure if I should go with 5400rpm or 7200rpm. What are the differences in performance and does the 7200rpm version have heat problems ? (note: the 5400rpm version is a WD scorpio and the 7200rpm version is a Seagate momentus)


    /Prophex
     
  42. Oiad

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    1. At a guess it's their way of saying Glossy and Matte, though the matte screens are normally WUGA+.

    2. The difference in speed isn't as big as most people were expecting and not that noticable in realtime. My WD-B 500GB 5400 is a cool customer in this notebook and I don't have any problems. Temps rarely go above 40, idling mid 30's.

    To a degree (hah, no pun intended), I believe locale is a big part in this. I would guess that many people with this heat problem live in warmer climates than I do.
     
  43. Anarch

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    Hi ppl,
    I've got WD 500 GB as well, but while playing it nearly reaches 60 degrees ( around 59) any good advice on lowering it ( tried new drivers etc )? so far it is my biggest and only big concern about this laptop.

    P.S.
    I'm using the laptop in Germany at the moment, so it is normal European summer.
     
  44. Zachari9690

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    How cold is it where you live!? My HDD idles in the low 50s and I keep a cold dorm room...

    I agree, I really don't like seeing my hdd get so hot...
     
  45. Oiad

    Oiad Notebook Evangelist

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    It ranges from 20 to 28 C here in London at the moment. Room temperatures are standard levels i.e. 21.C

    I do have an NC-2000 but it rarely gets used. In fact it's in its box and is looking to be sold.
     
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    Could you post the link to this driver. I downloaded the one from Clevo's website and the keys work but I dont get any graphic.
     
  47. milcs

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    Did you restart?
    I just downloaded directly from Clevo website, from the Download section of the M980NU.

    ps: You can remove the lightshow from the startup, as these is (I assume) reserved for controling the lights of the keyboard in the M980NU.
     
  48. danr22

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    Yeah I got it to work now. I downloaded it from Clevo's website where its labeled as v 1.5 but when I installed it it says v2.0527 so I guess its just mislabeled there. But my main problem was that I simply tried to modify the existing driver as opposed to uninstalling and starting fresh. When I did that I got it to work and I do like the graphics much better
     
  49. Pinoy24Sniper

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    I FINALLY got my NP8662!! :) But I have a couple of problems...
    Played counter-strike source at all high AA:16x AF: 16x
    I got 160fps approximately. My problem is... isn't a GTX 260M more superior to the 9800M GS? If so, then how come he gets just about the same FPS?
    My specs: Q9000 2.0GHz
    GTX 260M Stock clocks
    4GB 1066 DDR3 RAM (using only 3 because of 32-bit windows XP).

    It's kind of a downer because I was expecting SOOO much from this laptop.
     
  50. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    What the hell is wrong with you, boy? You're getting around triple the fps that your screen can display at native resolution and all maxed settings and you're saying that it's a downer?
     
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