**OFFICIAL Sager NP5125/Sager NP5135/Clevo B5130M Owner's Lounge**

I got the 260.99 drivers from nvidia:
1. extracted the .exe with winrar
2. open the folder > Display.Driver
3. overwrite nv_disp with the one downloaded from v260.99 Windows 7/Vista 64bit | Desktop - Mobile OEM - LaptopVideo2Go Forums (click modified ini)

Just installed today and seems to be working fine. I've never paid attention to the LED, what causes it to switch? mines always orange.

 

When everything is installed correctly the light closest to the "VGA" button will be green when running on the integrated GPU and then when you switch to the nVidia GPU the light will switch to the next one over, which is orange.

Also, when I ran the Windows Experience Index test thing, my Graphics score was SIGNIFICANTLY less with the 260.99 drivers, as opposed to the Sager drivers.

Normally I get 6.6 for the Gaming Graphics one but with 260.99 I got something like 5.4.

 

well, it's not really a gaming benchmark

 

Probably using the Intel graphics.

 

ok i don't know if it because i didn't use driver remover before installing nvidia's 260.99 but it installed correctly and works great, the VGA bottom works and the led lights change from green to orange when in use.

i didn't notice a drop in performance, what i did notice is that youtube now works perfect on the dgpu! now wierd flashing bar anymore, i suggest installing the sager driver and then install nvidias and choose clean install while installing the new driver.

no problems what so ever.

BTW windows experiance bla bla gave me a score of 6.4 for games, so no change either, do what i did, don't remove sager driver, it works fine, i didn't have any problems, no drivers crash, and i played straight for 3 hours few different games.

 

Where did you get that inf file? I tried forever to get the 260.99 drivers to install with the inf file provided here, but it would never work. But as soon as I used the one you posted they installed. Thanks. (I installed over the drivers from the Sager CD without uninstalling.)

The 260.99 worked great for video playback. They fixed the tearing issues in mpc when using a non-Aero theme, and worked correctly with youtube flash videos (hardware acceleration enabled). The GPU lights didn't work as you said.

Unfortunately, the updated drivers caused some display issues with my mouse pointer, so I had to uninstall them. Now I'm back to using the iGPU for everything; I disabled the dGPU in BIOS because I'm not playing games atm. At least I think I disabled it: the BIOS field read "Nvidia Optimus".

 

I made it myself.

For some reason, for them to install on Sager laptops they require a different INF to be modified than any other laptop.

I read somewhere that that was the INF that needed changed for the NP5125 so I assumed it would work on the 5135, and lo and behold, it did.

Also, why would you want to disable the dedicated GPU?

You know you can set which programs use it in the nVidia control panel? I didn't like that the dedicated GPU would kick in for simple things like flash videos or avi files in Windows Media Player so I set it so that Firefox and Windows Media Player would only use the integrated card. But for games and stuff like AutoCAD and Photoshop the dedicated GPU will kick in.

 

hmmm, i'm assuming by installing over the Sager drivers it left the necessary DLLs for the lights and button to work.

Good to know.

Any performance improvements in games?

 

Came across this new laptop from an Engadget post the other day. Same price range as the 5135 and very comparable features... What do you guys think?

Maingear PC | The ALT 15 Laptop

 

That is a 5135... same exact laptop just rebadged as a Maingear.

Just get the 5135 from xoticpc. Its cheaper and you get the exact same thing.

 

Thats the same computer as the Sager NP5135, just rebranded. XOTIC PC has it for cheaper.

-edit-
I take that back, according to the maingear website, thats a 17.3 inch laptop. Personally that's way too big of a laptop for me.

 

Ha, I should have known. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

Hi 5125/5135 owners, I'm wondering if any of you have/had this problem:
After you are not using LAN connector for a while (since you turned on your machine), does it become undetectable? (i.e. You don't see the device is available in network connection settings)
This is become annoying for me because after using wireless network and if I want to change it to LAN connection, I need to restart my machine.

I've already uncheck the "Allow the computer tu turn off this device to safe power" on Power management tab of device configuration.

FYI, my network card is the default Realtek one.

 

Did you install the drivers for ethernet?

 

Wait, the lan is by Realtek? I thought it was by JMicron. I'm having problems with the LAN too. Its not loading certain sites correctly (ex. youtube wont load videos) and for Teamfortress 2, I'm getting a message in console that I'm getting a lot of corrupt packets. I have none of these problems on wireless though...

I am not using the stock drivers, I'm using the most recent ones from the JMicron site. But both the stock and the updated ones gave me problems so...

I'm not sure what to do.

 

Have you tried uninstalling any drivers alltogether and running Windows Update to try and find its own drivers?

 

If I remember correctly the laptop will disable the lan if no active connection is
detected its for power saving feature.

My new NP8760 does the same. ounce the cable is plugged under network
connections the lan adapter will appear.

I believe in the bios there's an option to disable the power lan savings feature.

 

Yeah I have. I'm 99% sure theres either something wrong with the default settings for the LAN card or the card itself is defective because through the same connection but through the wifi card, everything is spot on perfect. But through the LAN connection things don't work correctly. I've tried with several laptops and my desktop already and the NP5135 is the only laptop with this problem.

I've even tried going through the 5 latest driver revisions to test if they would work.

I'll be contacting xotic about warranty info on monday.

 

ooops, yeah, sorry about that.
It's JMicron.

But that's not the problem I'm having

rdtmk: I think I'm using the driver installed from Sager.
I'll have to double check again.

For now, I think I should check BIOS per Mark121's suggestion.
UPDATE:
I got it working It doesn't shutdown by itself again. Thanks, Mark.

 

Sager won't cover the scratch on my screen, caused by the touchpad. I'm really careful with my laptop, but at some point it being in the bag (with one book) applied too much pressure to the lid. Not surprising, though. The lid is still thin and flimsy. Joseph said it could happen with any laptop, and it could. But, it's much more likely to happen with this laptop because of the flimsy lid. Most laptops have thicker plastic on the lid, and you can be pretty wreckless with them and never have to worry about such a problem. I was really careful, but it happened within a week of having it.

Anyone have first-hand experience on buffering out or filling in a scratch on a laptop glossy display?

 

Actually on the customize page, it says it is 15.6, so it is the 5135.

 

Dunno man. Maybe they changed the lid on the 5135 but if I close my laptop and push down on the lid with pretty excessive force (probably more than a couple of books worth) there is no way I can make the screen touch my touchpad.

I've heard buffing a scratch with a microfiber cloth and some toothpaste can help but I dunno. You risk doing more damage than is already there.

 

No problem happy to have helped.

 

Anyone have a program that can control the fanspeed on the 5135?

 

Did you replace the inf? or use the stock drivers from nvidia's site?

Are others updating the intel video drivers to the latest also?

For some reason, when I installed the video drivers from the cd it will connect with my samsung dlp through HDMI perfectly, but after upgrading the drivers it no longer connects. I just get a static screen. Anyone else have this problem? or know of a solution?

*Oh and I've personally never seen the LED switch colors. Mine is also on orange, which manual says is optimus mode and will switch gpu's accordingling. With 260.99 I enabled the optimus monitor and it does seem to work. When I run apps that I assign for dgpu, it will show up on the monitor but nothing else will...

 

The button that literally says "VGA" on the top left doesn't change colors unless you press it and put it in integrated only mode.

The two small LEDs to the right of the "VGA" button, however do change.

The one closest to the "VGA" button is green when it is running on the integrated GPU.

When the nVidia card kicks in, that light turns off the LED directly next to that one turns on. It is green.

 

Its an awesome way of showing which GPU the system is using.

 

I think Sager may be using cheapo RAM in their systems.

In mine personally, I had 4GB and in the Windows Experience thing the RAM got a score of 5.4.

I swapped out my RAM for the 6GB of RAM that came in my girlfriend's new HP DV7. She'll never know the difference

Anyways, my RAM score jumped to 7.0 after changing nothing but the RAM.

 

U may be right cuz i had never heard of the manufacturer that made the RAM in my system, i posted about it a long time ago in this thread but i cant really say for sure if the brand i got is good or not. However another explanation could also be the fact that u swapped the 4gb for 6gb so that extra 2gb might have made the diff

 

I assume its measuring the bandwidth of the RAM and not the amount.

 

Well i honestly have no idea how windows measures those stats but im sure it does count amount as well so i bet it did make at least some difference, i mean it wuldnt give someone running 1gb of RAM a very good rating i imagine

 

I use BatteryBar on almost every laptop I work on. It does a better job of monitoring and reporting battery performance and time (both charge and discharge) than any OEM program/driver I've seen. Osiris Development - BatteryBar, the most accurate battery meter for Windows

 

no i didn't mod anything, said i twice already, i don't know why you're all so keen on modding the stupid inf...

just install the plain driver from nvidia and everything works, the leds switch the score on windows is fine, game performance is good. and youtube is perfect...

BTW thanks for that battery program, i'll see how it works.

 

who was the manufacturer when you took it out?

cpu-z says mine is samsung and i get a rating of 6.9.

 

I forget but the RAM from my gf's HP that I switched to is Samsung.

How much RAM do you have?

 

I'm ordering mine at the end of the week with the i5-580m, full HD, 8 GB of RAM, and the 600 5400RPM hard drive. I love the HD display but I worry about battery life. If I change the resolution when I am traveling will this extend battery life? I would have gone for the i7 and the 7200 RPM hard drive but battery life was an issue for me. Thanks. Any other specs worth changing? I would really like 4-5 hours but I don't know if this is possible (I don't need internet when I travel so the card will be off).

 

You have a completely different GPU than those of us with a 5135...

While the nVidia drivers work fine for you, they won't work with our GT 425M's unless we mod the inf.

 

I've got a 5125 with 8gb.

 

If battery life is what matters most to you then get a SSD. But I don't know why you would buy a gaming/high performance laptop if battery is so important. Get a laptop with a ULV core or something.

Also, in modern drives the power difference between 7200 rpm and 5400 rpm is negligible. Just get the faster drive and enjoy increased performance.

 

Not at all. Changing the resolution doesn't turn pixels off.

 

All pixels will still be lit, but the graphics to process will be lessened. It might extend the battery life, in my opinion.

 

4-5 hours is very, very doubtful. With the wireless card off, I foresee 3 hours tops. If you'd like to extend battery life, perhaps undervolting would help.

Using all battery saving options (but not minimum brightness), while browsing the web and word processing, I get about 2.5 hours.

 

Idk, id say is u go all out, 4 hours mite be possible or at least in the upper 3hr range since ive gotten 3:30 with just regular power saving methods and wireless on

 

cgmcnama:

have you thought about getting the extended battery?

I have the i7 with 8gb, hybrid SSD, ultimate-n 6300 and I can get about 3 hours on a standard battery and lvl 1-2 brightness. Never really tested battery life but on average 3 hours.

 

If anything, I think the resources required to upscale would decrease battery life. But you could be right.

You have the low res screen which I think increases battery life a lot. I've read screens are one of the biggest battery drainers.

I think there's only one battery option atm (62.16Wh). But you can always buy two batteries and carry both (they're on the lighter side for laptop batteries I think).

 

Well wat i was told wen i was buying the laptop (in this thread) people seemed to say resolution makes absolutely no diff in battery life (unfortunatly lol, i wish it gave me better battery life lol)

 

Obviously it will make some difference with less pixels lit. The claim that the difference may be small is true, however.

edit: referring to a 1366x768 screen, not the FHD screen.

 

I'm fairly certain the backlight is what consumes the power used in the display, so despite having less pixels used the backlight is still using the same amount of power, amounting to zero difference in battery runtime

 

Lower resolution doesn't mean some pixels are not lit.
Lower resolution means there are more pixels will be lit with the same color with its neighboring pixels.

If some pixels are not lit, then it means you have dead pixels.

Speaking of 260.99 driver, did you guys have lower resolution on synthetic benchmark? I noticed my 3DMark06 score went down from 6100 to 5600-ish with this new driver.

 

That sounds right.

But, raising your resolution in games lowers frame rates. So, it must increase processing load. Having a higher resolution in any given situation probably raises processing load, and thus uses more power.